Does man have a freewill ?
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So it was the choice that saved them, not God. That's what you're saying here, that Jesus made a way, but it's up to YOU to make the right choice in order to be saved. Do you not see that your assertion here makes salvation nothing more than a human choice? Do you not see this gives us a reason to boast? This make salvation not of God, but of the right decision-makers. I understand why people believe this, and I too believed this way for the first couple years after being born again, but it just contridicts WAY too much of His word for me, not to mention my personal testimony makes this a complete impossibility. When I was saved I didn't even know what was happening at the time, I didn't choose anything, God pick my dead lost self up ALL on His own, I didn't choose ANYTHING but "my way" was a failure and turned from it. However I did make this choice about 5 years before this happened, and guess what? I WASN'T saved, so my choice meant nothing at all. I know that isn't "proof" to you, but it convices me beyond any doubt.
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"Man having free will doesn't limit God's ability. God, in His sovereignty, is fully able to allow man to choose—'Choose this day whom you will serve' (Joshua 24:15). Does God know what man will choose? Absolutely. Yet His foreknowledge does not negate the reality of that choice. In fact, it magnifies His power: that He can both know and still allow."
This view is widely held in classical Christian theology, particularly by those who affirm both divine omniscience and meaningful human responsibility. Here's a breakdown:
1. God’s Sovereignty Is Not Threatened by Human Freedom
God is not insecure about human choices. Allowing man to choose doesn’t lessen His power—it reveals the greatness of a God who can accomplish His will even through the free decisions of finite creatures.
2. Foreknowledge vs. Predetermination
Knowing what someone will do is not the same as causing them to do it. God can know our decisions without coercing them. Just because God sees the end from the beginning doesn’t mean He overrides our will.
3. The Mystery of God’s Providence
Can God allow real choice and still fulfill His eternal purposes? Yes. That is the mystery and beauty of divine providence: “In all things God works for the good of those who love Him” (Romans 8:28)—even through freely made human decisions.
Interesting Reply.
Seeing how The Elohim created all things here on This Earth; it reasons that The Gift They gave of free will, should be wisely used.
Some will read This reply and say; What do You mean, Elohim? The Proper Noun, Elohim, is a plural Popular Pronoun. That is,
It contains more than One person.
Consider closely This Verse from The Amplified Bible.
Genesis 1:1 . In The Begining God created (prepared, formed, fashioned) and created the earth.
Now consider this verse from Gen. 1:26 : God said, LET US [ Father, Son, and Holy Spirit] Make mankind in OUR image, after Our likeness, and let THEM have complete authority over the fish of the sea, the bi8rds of the air, the [tame] beasts, and over all of the earth. and over everything that creeps upon the earth.
Notice that the verse does not say, Adam! It says MAN; that is, mankind!
I can go no further here then to point this out to the readers. To do so would take a book writing. Huum!
DeepSeeker
Seeing how The Elohim created all things here on This Earth; it reasons that The Gift They gave of free will, should be wisely used.
Some will read This reply and say; What do You mean, Elohim? The Proper Noun, Elohim, is a plural Popular Pronoun. That is,
It contains more than One person.
Consider closely This Verse from The Amplified Bible.
Genesis 1:1 . In The Begining God created (prepared, formed, fashioned) and created the earth.
Now consider this verse from Gen. 1:26 : God said, LET US [ Father, Son, and Holy Spirit] Make mankind in OUR image, after Our likeness, and let THEM have complete authority over the fish of the sea, the bi8rds of the air, the [tame] beasts, and over all of the earth. and over everything that creeps upon the earth.
Notice that the verse does not say, Adam! It says MAN; that is, mankind!
I can go no further here then to point this out to the readers. To do so would take a book writing. Huum!
DeepSeeker
So did you. so does everyone who comes to God in faith and says Yes lord. I want you to give me your free gift.
You also chose not to remain in unbelief,. as apposed to those who chose to remain
yes. this is the purpose of the cross.
Jesus said he came not to judge, but so that the would MAY be saved.
He made salvation possible to the world. He did not promise the whole would would be saved
Nope.
He produced it in me, as he proved himself trustworthy.
The defenition of the word faith is that thing we have in someone, it is trustworthy, it is based on evidence, and it is not blind faith.
You also chose not to remain in unbelief,. as apposed to those who chose to remain
yes. this is the purpose of the cross.
Jesus said he came not to judge, but so that the would MAY be saved.
He made salvation possible to the world. He did not promise the whole would would be saved
Nope.
He produced it in me, as he proved himself trustworthy.
The defenition of the word faith is that thing we have in someone, it is trustworthy, it is based on evidence, and it is not blind faith.
ok pleaser stop with the reformed theology words. it is frustrating
I never said i produced faith. and you know this because I have told you this so many times I lost count.
If your going to keep repeating the same nonsense and same false reasoning to try to pove your point. its time to move on. Because it tells me you have lost ways to try to show me your way
I never said i produced faith. and you know this because I have told you this so many times I lost count.
If your going to keep repeating the same nonsense and same false reasoning to try to pove your point. its time to move on. Because it tells me you have lost ways to try to show me your way