What made it authoritative? Was it by the "word of a King"? (Ecclesiastes 8:4) Who authorized it?
Does the Bible claim to be inerrant?
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What made it authoritative? Was it by the "word of a King"? (Ecclesiastes 8:4) Who authorized it?
Oh no, again two different events... I wonder why Jesus did almost everything three times
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Oh no, again two different events... I wonder why Jesus did almost everything three times
Cuz we need the reinforcement.....and the repetition is suppose to help us learn...there is a scientific study that says we need to hear something 7 times before we really remember and understand it...or something like that.
Are you telling me Paul used scriptures authorized by a pagan king? It was certainly a translation and it was in a language that Paul and the readers of his letters understood! Are these the "holy scriptures" that Timothy had as a child? (2 Timothy 2:15)
Hi trophimus,
I am afraid to inform you that the confusion seems to be on your part. There is no inconsistency in scripture and especially your given 'proof texts'.
You make a huge assumption in thinking that the events described by Matthew and Luke are the same event. We can safely assume that over a three or so year period Jesus would have taught they sayings numerous times..they are important teachings!
And, even if they were the same event.. there still is no inconsistency.. The plain was on the mountain... what type of plain.. we have no idea except it would have been flat enough. many hills have them! And secondly Luke does not actually say Jesus taught standing up.. It says he came down and stood with his disciples on the plain...then a few sentences of description then the teaching. Pay careful attention to verse 19. No one can teach they way described while this was going on. Luke stops and proceeds with the teaching section.. he doesnt describe the the crowds calming down or Jesus sitting or standing during the teaching. Sitting was the actual norm for teaching cf. Matt 13:2; Luke 4:20.
So we can see, either way the confusion is on your part, this is what makes you think there are inconsistencies in the bible.
Who mentioned the KJV?? Bibles are print translations of early Greek and Hebrew manuscripts which have proven true through their contained and fulfilled prophecies. How would you know anything about Jesus apart from the bible? Which voice in your head would be the real Jesus? LOL
Yeah, again... every difference in Gospels = different events.
Easy explanation, but unrealistic.
Not at all trofimus, I showed that even if your two 'proof texts' where the same event they still had no inconsistencies. Many believe they are the same event, many don't.. we don't know. But they are both in total harmony
. That is why we can fully trust that scripture and all of it is God's word.
I will take it a step further. Our understanding of the imperfectly translated books is flawed.
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If you weren't so busy thinking your version is the only one to read, this would have been an easy one for you. He stood on a level place in on the mountain.
Matt. 5:1 [FONT="]Seeing the crowds, [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]he went up on the mountain, and when he [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]sat down, his disciples came to him.[/FONT]
Luke 6:17 17 [FONT="]And [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]he came down with them and stood on a level place, ...[/FONT]
How about not trying to prove your right, and instead figure out what God says? All you're doing is the same stupid game atheists throw at believers all the time. If the message is Jesus, (and I often wonder if you get that), then why play word games?
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Probably the same versions the Essenes had before they hid their library in some mountains and ran. (The Dead Sea Scrolls.)
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Only because you like (thinking you're) proving God wrong because of your linguistic abilities.
Because I am reading what Bible says not what I want it to say.
Many of you just have some faith you brought from various backgrounds like "there is no inconsistency" and try to justify everything to fit this faith.
I am looking for truth, whatever it will be like. I am not afraid of it. My salvation is not based on a perfect Bible.
"Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:9-11)
This is why!
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No linguistic abilities were used... up to mountain or down to plain, whats linguistic about it?
Also, it is not God I am proving to be wrong.
I am not even proving that something is "wrong". I said its a minor detail and changes nothing important.
The fact that something is not perfect does not make it automatically wrong.
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