Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

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Cameron143

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I don't know why you can't interact without resorting to personal insults.

I pray God helps you.
More denial. I told you, I'll save my prayers for you. Thus far God hasn't answered, but perhaps He wants me to labor long on your behalf. You have a zeal, but it's without knowledge.
 

JayBird

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Okay so you agree with Democrats on everything
Nope.


You're just neutral right?
Again, I vote by candidate, not by party.

I do appreciate you almost answering these questions with half hearted courage, but know you only did so because I put your back against the wall, but really you showed your whole hand here. You just hate Trump so much you're willing to go full leftist and side with the God hating cowardly Democrat party. Let's dig down into your answers here.
I don't know what you think you accomplish by speaking with people like that. If your goal is to push them away from you, then you're doing well.

Cool I agree, but this completely ignores the real problem about indoctrinating young children with these sexual subjects in school
If teachers and other school officials are actively encouraging kids to be LGBTQ, then that is wrong.

and even worse altering the natural maturation of them through chemicals and surgeries after teaching they they were born wrong.
I agree that children should not be allowed to undergo sex change procedures. The good thing is, from what I've read the medical guidelines align with that.

Why is it terrible?
You don't know?

So terrible we should keep doing it? So we should sacrifice as few kids as possible? I guess that makes you super Christian huh? You think that's Jesus position on killing the unborn He knew before they were conceived? It's a half hearted opinion trying to save face. Also Trump is not pushing for abortion ban, and you are also very wrong about bans not accomplishing that. If abortion is banned it will stop 100% of legal abortions. And what you're supporting with that side is abortions on demand for any reason up to birth and sometimes after. So again you skip the main point and address a strawman.
Pregnancies are not as simplistic and black-white as you seem to think. Sadly, some go terribly wrong or occur under horrific circumstances, which puts people in incredibly difficult situations that I would not wish upon anyone.

If you have no sympathy for those families, I pray that you find some.

Okay?? So you supported the immigration bill that did nothing at all to stop the waves of people crossing the boarder.
Again, the Republican House, under orders from Trump, refused to even allow it to come up for a vote, which means it was never passed into law. Try and remember that.

Did you read the bill? It was hot garbage that wouldn't have made a dimes worth of difference in the problem.
Yes, I read the bill very closely. Please explain what parts you objected to and outline why you think the rollbacks of the asylum system it called for wouldn't make any difference.

Wow. Are you really this ignorant? You think gouging is why prices are up? Do you think her proposed price fixing would solve the problem? It never has before when tried, in fact it has the opposite affect and causes hyper inflation.
Again, no need to be so nasty. Not exactly Christ like.

Yes, price gouging does occur and I think it's a good thing for the government to crack down on it. And doing so is not "price fixing". That's just ridiculous.

And the reason it's so hard to get a house these days is the interest rates. Giving a 25K handout does NOTHING at all about that issue. All it would do is drive the price of homes up that much more.
The data indicates that the primary driver is a shortage of housing.
 

cv5

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What makes you think Trump would do a nationwide abortion ban? As far as Trump is concerned with abortion, he selected SCJs that deliberated and gave the authority to the states. He never hinted he'd do that type of ban.
And that was the right move. The only right move in fact.
 

Nehemiah6

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Narcissists are users and that is what Trump does he uses people for his own advantage.
Really? Do you want to give us some solid evidence? How could he build a real estate empire if that was true?

It is quite the opposite. Almost all the people he trusted used him and then betrayed him. He does need to learn how to distinguish between friends and enemies. And he needs to divest himself of the treacherous Secret Service, and create his own.
 

Nehemiah6

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Yes they will do all of that and worse. The dissolution of the Republic is the plan.
What is simply amazing -- actually mind-blowing -- is the fact that people who live in America under an excellent Constitution which guarantees liberty and justice for all want to actually be under a tyranny.

Had the Russian population -- before the Bolshevik Revolution -- lived in such a country, they would have shed their blood to protect their freedoms. And nowhere in the world is there any such Constitution. But as John Adams said John Adams famously stated that "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People".
 

Mem

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What is simply amazing -- actually mind-blowing -- is the fact that people who live in America under an excellent Constitution which guarantees liberty and justice for all want to actually be under a tyranny.

Had the Russian population -- before the Bolshevik Revolution -- lived in such a country, they would have shed their blood to protect their freedoms. And nowhere in the world is there any such Constitution. But as John Adams said John Adams famously stated that "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People".
This, the Constitution, is what the commander-in-chief, and all his subordinates should be protecting, rather than, 'whosoever is place in the position' with no regard to the Constitution.
 

ResidentAlien

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Trump is going to deport millions of illegals. The American people will protest and project 2025 has been linked directly to trump and we know that he is going to try and use the military on American soil against Americans that protest.

This election is about Continuing the American experiment or ending it and forming a theocracy.

No matter the color of my state or my political views. When America, as we know it is dead. I cannot have it on my conscious that I voted to end the American experiment. The guilt would be unbearable.
I don't know, that seems a little dramatic. People are framing this election like if people don't vote one way or another it will have catastrophic consequences: the end of democracy, the end of the USA and maybe even the world. It's comical really. People just need to take a chill pill and come back down to earth.
 

HeIsHere

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Nope, not even close. I can give all kinds of reasons why that isn't true. But don't scream about abortion if you won 't put your vote behind it.
Both parties support abortion.

Like Kristin Hawkins ( high profile pro life lobbyist) clearly stated the Republicans had two years in 2016 -2018 where they had both houses to de-fund Planned Parenthood and they did nothing.

People do not want to vote, I fully understand.
 

HeIsHere

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Really? Do you want to give us some solid evidence? How could he build a real estate empire if that was true?

It is quite the opposite. Almost all the people he trusted used him and then betrayed him. He does need to learn how to distinguish between friends and enemies. And he needs to divest himself of the treacherous Secret Service, and create his own.
Narcissists are often very successful, they are great deceivers, that is the hall mark trait.
 

cv5

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Both parties support abortion.

Like Kristin Hawkins ( high profile pro life lobbyist) clearly stated the Republicans had two years in 2016 -2018 where they had both houses to de-fund Planned Parenthood and they did nothing.

People do not want to vote, I fully understand.
Why the drastic change? Did Satan make them an offer they couldn't refuse?

MAZE on X: "This is how almost every Democrat candidate for the 2008 Presidential race spoke about abortion. Today the DNC is a celebration of abortion, with them being performed in a truck outside the arena. https://t.co/CYR0bTB7RS" / X
 

cv5

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I don't know, that seems a little dramatic. People are framing this election like if people don't vote one way or another it will have catastrophic consequences: the end of democracy, the end of the USA and maybe even the world. It's comical really. People just need to take a chill pill and come back down to earth.
Hey man.....you are the one in the theater yelling "fire" about Trump.

But the bottom line is......always vote for the almost assassinated and almost jailed guy.
Because he has all the right enemies.
 

Cameron143

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Both parties support abortion.

Like Kristin Hawkins ( high profile pro life lobbyist) clearly stated the Republicans had two years in 2016 -2018 where they had both houses to de-fund Planned Parenthood and they did nothing.

People do not want to vote, I fully understand.
Total misrepresentation. Just because Republican leadership was feckless doesn't mean Republicans or conservatives are for it. There is no moral equivalency. I'm surprised you didn't find a Republican who had an abortion and say she represents all Republicans and conservatives.
 

cv5

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Both parties support abortion.
Except one party and president took drastic action to nullify Roe vs Wade and kick this garbage out of Federal purview.
And ironically, the Democrats have reacted VIOLENTLY, like they lost their only child.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Both parties support abortion.
No, they don't. That's a lie.


People do not want to vote, I fully understand.
So let the Dems crank up the factories and lets move on to infanticide. Good choice!! And of course there are no other reasons to vote. People that feel that way have no children, or family, of their own that they care about. They simply don't care about the next generation if they refuse to vote and especially if they vote Dem.
 

HeIsHere

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Abortion has been used as a wedge issue.
Both parties want power and they play the game.
One party supports this evil, the other supports that evil ... in actuality it is a uni-party.

Is Trump an outsider, I am not convinced yet.

I think he is another puppet and he knows to whom he is beholden, in a strange way I think he is more a humanitarian than his controllers and maybe hopes to do some good if he is given the power to do so, I state this on the fact that he does not seem to be a warmonger.

These people are very hard to read, the best information comes from who funds them and who they choose as their advisors behind the scenes.

Their rhetoric is not to be trusted.