Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

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Maggiefortruth

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Hey @cv5

Really? That's the best response you got. I'm just reading the supplied article and pointing out that the article doesn't prove the position that is being made.

You're a rather odd duck.
Are you going to buy Trumps bitcoin? Yet another grift by the grifter of all, a 34 count felony who has cheated on his taxes at YOUR expense my friend. He is going down big time. Harris leading in all battleground states but one.
 

Maggiefortruth

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"Democrats are somehow wanting people to have abortions even after they are born." ... you say?. What are your references to prove that? Never seen it because it is a lie. Just like Q is a lie. Incidentally there is no such thing as abortion after birth. Its murder. You need to educate your self to think. Something MAGA cultiists dont do well.
 

cv5

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Hi @Nehemiah6

Oh no! President Biden and his Vice President are calling more than half the country semi-Nazis (whatever that is. Is that really a thing?) I suppose I'd be wasting my breath to ask what particular speech or claim you're referencing here. And innocents in the gulag. I haven't seen any of that. Everyone I've seen going to jail, as relates this issue of associates of the GOP contender and his crowd of ragtag rebel rousers that stormed the Capitol, are guilty in my book. I mean, I'm sorry, but when you have to gain access to a building by breaking down glass windows and prying open doors, then yes, you are guilt of illegal trespass. I don't care if it's the people's Lincoln Memorial. If the government should decide to rope it off and close off access and a bunch of folks just tear it all down to get in, they're breaking the law and are subject to prosecution.

I honestly don't understand how anyone can look at ALL of the video footage and not see that these people were breaking the law in entering that building. I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned someone would have to be dumb as a post to watch all that video and think that wasn't some illegal action that was going on. I mean, you call it as you see it, but from my seat here, those people were an aroused mob who were chanting murderous threats and breaking into the Capitol, and security had every right and authority to bar such people access to the building and tried their best to do that. But you have to go with what your account tells you and what you believe to be facts in the matter.

No, I don't subscribe to the idea that the U.S. Capitol is a building that belongs to the people and that somehow gives any of us the right to enter it as that crowd was doing on that day. But again, hey, you go with what you believe.



Pranking? That's what you saw on that day in all that video? Ok. Friend, I contend that you've just been totally washed from the neck up.



Failed? Do you even live on this planet? He's been found guilty on several of the charges and is in fact now waiting on sentencing for one of them and the others haven't been concluded yet. Failed? You heard somewhere that all of the charges against him had failed? I'd be getting another source for my facts. The only thing that has failed in all of this is his ability to bring any evidence to support his claims about the world and how it operates. You really believe that all the criminal complaints against him have failed? Do you actually read the news or just follow certain pundits that tell you what your itching ears want to hear. Failed? Really?

And you find that to not be totally disrespectful of others. That's what you want in a nation leader. Someone who argues like a five year old. Ok. Hey, if that's what you want, in November you'll be able to let your choice be made. Me, I'm voting for a bit more maturity than a five year old.
Buddy....you are blowing more smoke than a Union Pacific Big Boy.
Do you realize that NOBODY believes a word you say?
All sound and fury, signifying nothing is a crummy way to live but some people are a glutton for punishment I guess.

And the passive agressive routine is both transparent and tedious. As well as nauseating.
 

cv5

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Are you going to buy Trumps bitcoin? Yet another grift by the grifter of all, a 34 count felony who has cheated on his taxes at YOUR expense my friend. He is going down big time. Harris leading in all battleground states but one.
You know the "screaming Karens" that lost their minds when Trump won?
Thats the best description I could think of for you.

So flail and shriek away to your hearts content lady. I will be sitting back here with a bag of popcorn.
 

tedincarolina

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Whoa teddy bear. I thought you wanted to communicate this way. Your patronizing comments about voting wisely and work on my reading comprehension skills was meant for my good? How about the Kool-aid comment? You said that because you thought my Kool-aid smile would harm me in some way? The gearbox comment was meant to encourage me? You are the epitome of what love looks like? You couldn't even use biblical examples to help me?

Let me show you how easy it is. Jesus taught us to remove the beam from our own eye before attempting to remove the toothpick from another's eye. See how easy that was.

BTW...do you really think I'm the best at deprecating? I'm pretty sure you have a couple of trophies on your mantle. You might even have a couple for patronizing.
Hey @Cameron143

Well, I would think that after my response above that you would have figured out that that isn't how I appreciate being addressed. Like I say, you should engage that gearbox between your ears from time to time. And yes, I've had my moments with denigrating.
 

tedincarolina

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Do you realize that NOBODY believes a word you say?
Hey @cv5

No actually. I often get likes and approvals and even have a few winners since my short stay here. And I try to never speak in such broad sweeping generalities as 'NOBODY', because that pretty much makes your claim untrue from the get go. But I will admit to having to scratch my head at the level of meanness and bitterness found in so many of these political discussions between supposed believers who should know that it's up to God and leave it in His hands. If he wants one of the other to win, they will, without your help. Just vote.

You've turned yourself into some proclaimer of truth about the GOP contender and most of it is just untrue nonsense that the GOP contender gets up and spews from the podium and to everyone who will listen. I just don't happen to be one of those. So I'll just vote and trust that God will install the person that He wants in the job, if it's important to Him.

Trust God, my friend. He's got this. You guys don't really have to be like him to approve of him. Trust me, I'm nothing like Pres. Biden or the GOP contender. But I'll vote for leadership of my country based on who I think will provide the next four years of stable and successful leadership. Thank you and good night
 

Nehemiah6

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75% Of Midtown NYC Arrests Are Illegals; Veteran Prosecutor Blames "Pathetic" Sanctuary City Law
Go to the Heritage Foundation website for the data shown below (I am unable to post the charts and they are too many):

Major Spike in Convicted-Criminal-Alien Encounters by U.S. Border Patrol
The Biden Administration has reversed many of the Trump-era policies that stemmed the tide of illegal immigration into the United States. As a result, convicted‐criminal‐alien encounters—including assaults, rapes, and homicides—have spiked during President Biden’s time in office.

There are nine categories of criminal encounters which have been charted.
  1. Assault/Battery/Domestic Violence
  2. Burglary/Larceny/Theft/Fraud
  3. Driving Under the Influence
  4. Homicide/Manslaughter
  5. Illegal Drug Possession/Trafficking
  6. Illegal/Entry Re-entry
  7. Illegal Weapons Possession/Transport/Trafficking
  8. Sexual Offences
  9. Other
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Illegal Alien Encounters Surge and Shift Under Biden
Updated August 17, 2024
Shortly after President Biden’s inauguration, the U.S. experienced a surge in illegal border crossings, and the situation has only worsened over his 43-month presidency. The chart below displays both illegal alien encounters recorded by the U.S. Border Patrol, which occur between ports of entry, and inadmissible alien encounters recorded by the Office of Field Operations, which occur at ports of entry.

Total Inadmissible Alien Encounters Under the Biden Administration 10,249,626

▇Office of Field Operations
▇U.S. Border Patrol

Data Visualization | Illegal Alien Encounters Surge and Shift Under Biden | The Heritage Foundation
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tedincarolina

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Hi @Nehemiah6

And God may want the GOP contender. It's my understanding that we are nearing the last of the last days and there are some prophecies yet to be fulfilled. If we're 100 years away from Jesus' return, then I would expect to see the last of the prophecies coming to fulfillment. And I believe that's exactly what I'm seeing.

If Jesus returns in the next 100 years, then the United States is the best candidate to be the beast nation. Based on the descriptors that God has given us regarding that beast. So, we should be expecting to see some pretty godless people coming to power. After all, in the very last days, all the nations rise up against Israel. The United States has to come to that point where we won't support Israel, rather we will be against Israel. That has to happen if the Scriptures are true. And if Jesus is coming back in the next 100 years, then those attitudes of not wanting to support Israel have to begin pretty soon.

So, it is plausible that God does raise up the GOP contender as president to begin fulfilling some of those yet unfulfilled prophecies of the very last days. If that's the case, then God will do it. But I won't vote for him. Just as Daniel wouldn't support the Kings decree to bow down to his statue, I won't support, what I believe to be, a more wicked leader over us.

And Jesus could return within 100 years if VP Harris is elected. I just think it will set the timeline of our destruction back just a bit. But ultimately God's word will be fulfilled in all points.
 

Cameron143

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Hey @Cameron143

Well, I would think that after my response above that you would have figured out that that isn't how I appreciate being addressed. Like I say, you should engage that gearbox between your ears from time to time. And yes, I've had my moments with denigrating.
You continue to have moments. It's not your choice of words, it's your condescension. Implying one can't think or doesn't choose wisely when voting is demeaning. You didn't like it when I did the same thing to you, but it didn't change your behavior. You treated me the same way again.
It doesn't bother me. I don't care how someone treats me. Because others are offensive doesn't mean one needs to be offended. But I wonder if you realize, for the Christian, the value of reaping what you have sown. It's a gift God gives us to make us more sensitive to our sin and the effects our sin has on others. When we experience the same hurt we have caused others, we begin to understand the impact of our words and actions have upon others.
Perhaps you will choose not only your words but your manner of use of them more wisely.
 

cv5

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Hey @cv5

No actually. I often get likes and approvals and even have a few winners since my short stay here. And I try to never speak in such broad sweeping generalities as 'NOBODY', because that pretty much makes your claim untrue from the get go. But I will admit to having to scratch my head at the level of meanness and bitterness found in so many of these political discussions between supposed believers who should know that it's up to God and leave it in His hands. If he wants one of the other to win, they will, without your help. Just vote.

You've turned yourself into some proclaimer of truth about the GOP contender and most of it is just untrue nonsense that the GOP contender gets up and spews from the podium and to everyone who will listen. I just don't happen to be one of those. So I'll just vote and trust that God will install the person that He wants in the job, if it's important to Him.

Trust God, my friend. He's got this. You guys don't really have to be like him to approve of him. Trust me, I'm nothing like Pres. Biden or the GOP contender. But I'll vote for leadership of my country based on who I think will provide the next four years of stable and successful leadership. Thank you and good night
And yet you speak nothing of 2020 election fraud/theft.
Nor of the FEDS inciting J6, nor the fact that it was a set-up.
Nor of the effort to jail a political opponent, spurred on by weaponized government.
Nor of the attempted assassination of a political opponent.

But you do trot out an endless stream of vapid hand wringing weepy irrelevancies.
 

mailmandan

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If 10-15 millions of criminals are claiming refugee status, that does not make them such. The definition of refugee is one who flees his country because of persecution by the government. When the MAJORITY of illegal migrants are single, military age adults (not families) who come in and start committing crimes, that is not how real refugees behave.

Breaking immigration laws is a crime in itself and normally these people would be immediately deported, . Many of those coming through the southern border are hardened criminals here for a free ride. They are brazenly entering because the border was left wide open by Biden/Harris.

Illegal Migrants Storm US Border with Giant Venezuelan Flag, Hurl Rocks at Border Agents – Are Forced Back into Mexico
Illegal Migrants Storm US Border with Giant Venezuelan Flag, Hurl Rocks at Border Agents - Are Forced Back into Mexico | The Gateway Pundit | by Margaret Flavin
And now armed gangs of Venezuela criminals are terrorizing innocent lawful citizens.

MAJORITY of Americans WANT a Border Wall for First Time in History - And All It Took was 3 Years of Joe Biden's Open Borders and 10 Million Illegal Migrants | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
Dallas Police Confirm Venezuelan Gang That Took Over Aurora, CO Apartment Complex is Now Wreaking

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/dallas-police-confirm-venezuelan-gang-that-took-aurora/

This ILLEGAL immigration invasion of America is not only CRIMINAL. It is TREASON!
 

cv5

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Yeah, that's who I respect as a leader. One who can't seem to talk about others without making up silly first grade derogatory names for them. Sleepy Joe. Comrade Kamala. Tampon Tim. That's who I want with running the nation. Someone who has no normal, civil respect for anyone.
Elon Musk on X: "I look forward to serving America if the opportunity arises. No pay, no title, no recognition is needed." / X

Trump wants to streamline, de-weaponize and downsize government to benefit citizens.
Kamalatov wants to bloat, weaponize and expand government to terrorize and imprison citizens.

Somebody tell me I'm wrong.
 

tedincarolina

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And yet you speak nothing of 2020 election fraud/theft.
Nor of the FEDS inciting J6, nor the fact that it was a set-up.
Nor of the effort to jail a political opponent, spurred on by weaponized government.
Nor of the attempted assassination of a political opponent.

But you do trot out an endless stream of vapid hand wringing weepy irrelevancies.
Hi @cv5

Yes, and despite the worldview that you've got running through your head, I think that everything points to there being more people in this country that also see those issues as just nonsense talk.

Yeah, I speak to the 2020 election fraud/theft often.

It didn't happen. There isn't any issue with illegal migrants voting. There aren't any boiler rooms that are writing up millions of fake ballots. People who used mail in voting didn't vote more than once. The 2020 election was, for all intents and purposes that I see, a pretty standard election with no more than what might usually get through, but will most likely be caught out. We have a long history of finding people who voted illegally and giving them whatever consequence might be deemed worthy. I imagine that in most cases it's just a fine and don't do that again, kind of thing. And I'm good with that in the rare instances that it happens.

Yes, I will freely talk about the J6 incident and the feds had nothing to do with it.

Politicians go to jail all the time. That's not some new phenomenon that we've just created in the last 4 years. Heck we even have politicians that murder people from time to time, although generally very small local politicians.

Yes, I watched all that seems to be available at this point on the assassination attempt. But there's nothing there for me to question. Some, really just a kid, with a high-powered rifle got up on a roof and took a shot at the campaign stop for the GOP contender. So far, that's about the only fact that has been given of the shooter's motive or actions of any kind at the moment. There have been some heads to roll regarding the lack of coverage to prevent such a thing. They should be glad though that we don't live in N. Korea. Kim just executed a bunch of his administration that was supposed to have done a better job than what they did.

But at the end of the day, all I can say about the shooting itself, is that a young man took it upon himself to climb up on a roof and take a shot at the speaker. Why he did it? I haven't heard. What kind of thoughts were running through his head that brought him to that decision that day... I don't know. Whether there was anyone else involved? So far there doesn't seem to have been.

Yes, I have read some the conspiracy stuff floating around. I've also read how the government went in and cut out the steel support structures at the WTC that caused the collapse and the planes were just a, what's the word you guys use, 'false flag' action. A distraction to hide the 'real perpetrators'. Yeah, I've read some of that. Uhhhh No, I don't put any stock in it at this point. When I can see some real evidence that someone else may have been involved, besides just folks making up scenarios in their own heads to fit the facts, then I might change my position on that. But right now, the assassination attempt is not a thing for me and my decision regarding who I choose to vote for.

You do know that today some 14 year old killed four people in a school. Young people trying to kill people isn't some outlandish idea anymore.
 

tedincarolina

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