Dreams and the end times (I'm about to look supid(er))

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Budman said:
If you read my history, you will quickly see I am as far from a legalist as you can get. My point is simply that we know how the end times will play out, and how they will end. There is nothing more that needs to be added to what we already know from scripture.
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If we knew how the end times were to play out then why is the pre mid and post rapture debate never ending? Why is the debate of who the beast in revealtions never ending why is the antichrist never really known?
 
JFSurvivor said:
I don't think I am a prophetess. I just think that God gave me a dream that may or may not have Biblical implications. If it does great! If not, I don't think God will condemn me for trying to please him. "OH HOW DARE SHE DO HER BEST TO PLEASE ME! HOW DARE SHE! HERESY! HERESY! I SHALL SMITE HER BECAUSE SHE LOVES ME SO!" Rofl! That is not the God I know and love. XD
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Do you actually believe that the scriptures need adding to? Is there some "new" information from you, or anyone, that needs to be included?

You are on shaky theological ground. Tread carefully.
 
popeye said:
Hard to believe she dreams of mockers coming to distract her and bingo they flock to their little "cause"
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No cause here at all accept the Cause for Christ. You are the one claiming someone is a prophetess, I thought that was Gods job?
 
LanceA said:
So from this statement God will tell that to someone who isn't saved as well.

1. Gods going to say "you didn't know me but you were a good person. A for effort."
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noooooo....because those people didn't try to please him...if we are following the commands and stuff and then we go and do something good in Jesus's name that isn't namely expressed in the Bible like helping a homeless person get back on their feet but they don't really want to I think God will be like "well I didn't put that in the Bible but good job for trying!" Because he will know the why behind the what. ;-)
 
Budman said:
If you read my history, you will quickly see I am as far from a legalist as you can get. My point is simply that we know how the end times will play out, and how they will end. There is nothing more that needs to be added to what we already know from scripture.
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Her dreams were personal guidance,not a thesis on end times doctrine.

You obviously NEVER talk WITH God.
 
JFSurvivor said:
noooooo....because those people didn't try to please him...if we are following the commands and stuff and then we go and do something good in Jesus's name that isn't namely expressed in the Bible like helping a homeless person get back on their feet but they don't really want to I think God will be like "well I didn't put that in the Bible but good job for trying!" Because he will know the why behind the what. ;-)
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And that is your major theological flaw. You are saying we are saved because we try to please God? You have said this in other threads. We are saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ.
 
popeye said:
Her dreams were personal guidance,not a thesis on end times doctrine.

You obviously NEVER talk WITH God.
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What are you talking about? Talking with God is called praying. I hear people do it quite frequently.
 
Blain said:
If we knew how the end times were to play out then why is the pre mid and post rapture debate never ending? Why is the debate of who the beast in revealtions never ending why is the antichrist never really known?
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My point is simply that we cannot add to scripture. It is forbidden. We can debate what is written, but we have no right to think that any "new" information can change the picture. The canon is closed.
 
Here's my ttwo cents. Is she a porphettess? I'd say no but then again I could be wrong. Truth is WE'LL NEVER KNOW. Soo here is what we take away from this. Sometimes a cigar is jsut a cigar. It's nothing special it's just a cigar. To JF? Maybe her dreams ARE real. Iknow her and even if she believes they are real ultimately what she going to do? SHe's going to want to bring people to christ. And if GOD uses a dream to get HER to evangelize? I say go right on ahead. Furthermoroe nobody is saying that she's some soothsayer. What do you expect to see her around the world "beware the ides of march"? SHe wouldn't. Why? Because nobody knows the day or the hour.
 
Budman said:
Do you actually believe that the scriptures need adding to? Is there some "new" information from you, or anyone, that needs to be included?

You are on shaky theological ground. Tread carefully.
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New information? Her dream clearly spoke of how time is running out that's not new that was predicted in scripture

1Corinthians 7:29 But let me say this, dear brothers and sisters: The time that remains is very short. So from now on, those with wives should not focus only on their marriage
 
LanceA said:
And that is your major theological flaw. You are saying we are saved because we try to please God? You have said this in other threads. We are saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ.
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So pick one:

a) sin, repent, Grace

b) sin, repent, Grace, change
 
popeye said:
Her dreams were personal guidance,not a thesis on end times doctrine.

You obviously NEVER talk WITH God.
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I see. If they were truly "personal" she would feel no need to share them, and say they might have "biblical implications". Also, if they were "personal" you would not feel the need to espouse regarding them with your interpretations.
 
JFSurvivor said:
So pick one:

a) sin, repent, Grace

b) sin, repent, Grace, change
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Each Christian should have a change in their life style, If they are truly saved. But works doesn't save a person. Can we agree on that?
 
Budman said:
Do you actually believe that the scriptures need adding to? Is there some "new" information from you, or anyone, that needs to be included?

You are on shaky theological ground. Tread carefully.
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You ,sir,are ridiculous.

We know very little outside revelatory knowledge.

Tell all of us please,since there are no mysteries yet to uncover,who is the antichrist?

John told us who he was. So,since you are all knowing,tell us who he is.

I mean,all you need is a bible.

.....and not the one who wrote it.
 
Tell all of us please,since there are no mysteries yet to uncover,who is the antichrist?
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Anyone who rejects the truth that Jesus has come in the flesh.
 
Blain said:
If we knew how the end times were to play out then why is the pre mid and post rapture debate never ending? Why is the debate of who the beast in revealtions never ending why is the antichrist never really known?
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This isn't a great question. If I told you I have the answers to each of those, for me, and freely give them often, you still wouldn't accept them. That's your answer.
 
I am fearful for any believer who comes to cc and speaks of their dreams and visions from God, this is clearly not a safe and friendly environment for such things
 
Stonemason said:
This isn't a great question. If I told you I have the answers to each of those, for me, and freely give them often, you still wouldn't accept them. That's your answer.
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How do you know I wouldn't accept them? I am not one to stubbornly hold to my doctrines and views and not have a learnable and teachable heart. Never assume things
 
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