Disclaimer: I pulled random posts from the beginning of the thread. I don't have time to sift through the whole thread so I'm not attacking any one or couple people.
Dreams and the end times (I'm about to look supid(er))
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Hoffco
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Can we have a mature discussion? What we let our emotions control, we don't think very clearly.
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Hoffco
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This is the way Jesus talked to people. Jesus said to get with His agenda or get out of MY LIFE. I am not Jesus ,but I will follow His example. Jesus left the rich ruler frustrated, and if you won't submit to Jesus words, I give; you too ,must leave frustrated. because you reject Jesus words.
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Hoffco
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OK, good response, we can talk, when we both give and take,listen to the other. and respond sensibly.
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Hoffco
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My PC. give my fits, it freezes up, blanks out, and is very frustrating to use. The ads flood myPC. and shuts it off. so , I am late in responses.
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Hoffco
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I feel that if God gives one a vision or dream, the meaning will be clear to the receiver. If you have to seek an interpretation it most likely is not of God.
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Hoffco
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OK, you make a good point, remember pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar were not God's children, God would not give them a clear vision with out a proven prophet of God to get glory to God. That might help, And the visions in Acts were clear to the children of GOd. But Gods vision from God overruled a true vision of the other prophet, about Paul's trip to Rome. And I know God is giving many Muslims a vision of Jesus which make them come to Jesus. I personally, wold have liked a vision,but God has always lead me by the Scriptures alone. And all my dreams are explained by my own stressful mind, and not helpful to me.
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Hoffco
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I was reacting to your 1st post,"supid(er"), and your "disclaimer" post 161. I felt you were frustrated over your "visions", and over reacting to the others.
Excuse me..... but when did God give you authority to proclaim that any prophecy, whether dreams, visions, or a word, ADDS TO SCRIPTURE? Wouldn't your "new theology" also add to scripture according to your standards 'cuz you invented this?
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TwilightSparkle
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I will agree as I have personally run I to christians on here who were rather rude to put it nicely. I don't understand why everyone gets so up in arms and suddenly offended just becuasr someone brings about something sifferent. And even so. Just becuasr it's different doesn't make it true but it makes for a learning experience
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popeye
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Well calling me rude on a post you hit the like button is pretty normal for this thread.
BTW,I answered a Rude person with the proper restraint.
Go back and read his commanding me as if he has authority over me in a realm he has zero knowledge in,nor cares ANYTHING about.
I was dealing with a nasty person. I did what was proper.
I never did say you were a prophet is. Never will.
Evangelist is a calling ,a gifting,a office.
Teacher,prophet ,pastor,the same.
No brainer stuff,like your dreams allegory.
Have a nice evening.
I'm sorry if you are hurt. That was not my intent. But you are demanding a lot of attention in the forums lately, and if you want to post some dreams that seem like a lot of nothing, don't expect us all to think you have heard from God, or that you have a clue what you are talking about.
If you want to have friends here, then try being a friend. I know a number of people who have reached out to you and you have rejected them, wanting to keep to your own, confused and possibly Biblical illiterate path. To once again quote part of your OP:
This is prophecy, because you are saying the dreams have terrified you, somehow showed you the state Christianity is in?? And most important, that your dreams PROVE that these are the end times. You then next tell people to pray because of persecution. Well, I always pray for the persecuted church, but it is not in the west! If you are asking for prayer for Coptic Christians in Egypt, or the few remaining Orthodox Christians in the Middle East, or the ones in some African countries who are being massacred, then I apologize.
You may not know this, but people have been persecuted since the time of Christ, and in some countries, literally millions have been tortured and killed for Christ. So it could be a sign of the end, or it could also be just another stage in what some are suffering for Christ. So let me know if you were just talking about yourself, or if you actually mean the persecuted church. (Here is a link you might like to read: The Voice of the Martyrs )
Anyway, if you are worried about your feelings, my suggestion is do not post this kind of silly nonsense, and no one will have to call you on it. Unless you actually wanted to open the broader discussion on dreams and visions, which some people have taken your post to be about. Reading the OP again, I just do not see that was your intent. It was an OP meant to be a warning, which, in fact, when taken with the dreams is a form of prophecy. And beware being a false prophets, esp. since you have such a fascination with the OT. A false OT prophet was stoned to death if their prophecy didn't come true.
Maybe next time you could ask for feedback on these dreams with your friends in pms, and not start a whole thread about it, then get mad when someone says your dreams are not what you are claiming them to be! So, does this mean you will only take a reply that your dreams are indeed from God and the "end is nigh"? Or won't you take a bit of rebuke from someone who has been following God for 35 years, and would never have dreamed of posting the stuff you post, even on a bad day!
If you want to start an OP about your dreams, be prepared for people to seriously critique what you have written. Sorry, I don't hand out kudos unless they are deserved.
Finally, if I could urge you once again, start reading the Bible from cover to cover. Not just once, but over and over. You will learn more in the Word of God than with any set of dreams and interpretations by people on the internet!
I seriously HATE christians. I have hated them before but I hate them more now. I did not force anyone to be rude. You did that on your own. If you guys want to me to leave fine. I'll leave because this is not a place of spiritual growth.
Here we go again..... stating rules that are NOT in scripture. Do you guys just go around quoting each other, hoping no one will ask where in the Bible that is?
You DO realize Joel's prophecy states that ALL of God's people, regardless of age, background, sex, or status in life would/could/should perform under the Holy Spirit's leading as a spokesman, a dreamer, or a vision seer?
Acts 2:16-18 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; [SUP]17 [/SUP]And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: [SUP]18 [/SUP]And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
The last time I looked, all meant all.
I've read this thread all the way thru..... & if I may, give some advice:
1. KNOW WHO YOU"RE BACKING. I agree with many posters on this site, but I won't back them 'cuz their reputations are questionable, to say the least. Some of them really know how to smack a hornet's nest.
2. KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING..... quoting someone else isn't equal to scripture, & should never be held above scripture. BTW, no one's gonna quiver & shake when you bring forth your great answer or doctrine..... so quit acting/thinking like they should.
3. KNOW WHEN TO SHUT UP..... this is the hardest one, 'cuz when our pride is hurt, we can act like a cornered cat & come out slashing. When we zip it, the argument ends for lack of firewood.
Also, some things just aren't worth saying. When we read Proverbs, it teaches that it's unwise to constantly jabber on & that we can seem wise in our silence. (wowsers, sooo much sermon material there!)
This is some experience from my little life..... I hope it helps yours.
1. KNOW WHO YOU"RE BACKING. I agree with many posters on this site, but I won't back them 'cuz their reputations are questionable, to say the least. Some of them really know how to smack a hornet's nest.
2. KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING..... quoting someone else isn't equal to scripture, & should never be held above scripture. BTW, no one's gonna quiver & shake when you bring forth your great answer or doctrine..... so quit acting/thinking like they should.
3. KNOW WHEN TO SHUT UP..... this is the hardest one, 'cuz when our pride is hurt, we can act like a cornered cat & come out slashing. When we zip it, the argument ends for lack of firewood.
Also, some things just aren't worth saying. When we read Proverbs, it teaches that it's unwise to constantly jabber on & that we can seem wise in our silence. (wowsers, sooo much sermon material there!)
This is some experience from my little life..... I hope it helps yours.
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AnneNoel
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I pray that you don't harden your heart.
You will only hurt yourself. Hate is a horrible thing to say about your fellow brothers & sisters in Christ. Let's have open hearts & be ready to learn. We are to respect our elders & listen,as their walks with God have been many years longer than ours.