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wolfywolfs said:
im surpised the different reactions i got from this thread. ive heard many similar stories of people saying weed ruined there lives they got addicted. what i have to say why did you do weed every day alone cos i just find that stupid you got to be in the right enviroment to do weed and you make yourselfs thinks its not working i have to take more which then makes you think you need to rely on the stuff did you not research before getting into it
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i wonder why people need to do these things at all, you are not sober when you do these things. i dont care what anyone says you are not in the same frame of mind on or off weed. therfore why alter your perception and add to what you need in life. even the assyrians used this stuff to create a state of trance. i dont see how having this going on can benefit somone. i smoke for 6 years and stopping was one of the best things ive ever done.
 
for social things like going for drinks really no different beside weed being safer
 
for me ......we should stay away from that..although it can help u in any way ..no matter how little it is , it will effect negatively, shall we say it will lead us to a wrong direction if we take that, and we all know the disadvantages of it .A taste could lead into addiction so while u are able to resist drugs , avoid considering even trying them out of curiousity ...likewise to those prohibited products..or those things that can't glorify God ..pray and ask for guidance to our Father....He will surely help us
 
wolfywolfs said:
for social things like going for drinks really no different beside weed being safer
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Wrong. Beer is not illegal. If you want to move somewhere where it's legal go and serve that master if it's so impt to you. But as long as you live under this law you are to abide by it as instructed by GOD. not any of us or any man but GOD is the one who said obey the laws given to you by your govt.
 
JimM1228 said:
Wrong. Beer is not illegal. If you want to move somewhere where it's legal go and serve that master if it's so impt to you. But as long as you live under this law you are to abide by it as instructed by GOD. not any of us or any man but GOD is the one who said obey the laws given to you by your govt.
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excuse me but dont tell me what to do i dont follow god so [blank] him not to get into god said alot of things before like go kill non belivers stone children etc then suddenly turn around and say no sorry i was wrong do this now (so much for perfect god) and suddenly everyone like ok its god hes allowed to do this and we will never understand his reason so by that his reason has a good enough chance to be bad reasons. so by gods words there pretty hard to trust or to even figure out what they mean seeing how there are different interpretations.

now with that said lets forget about what the bible says for a minute and ask this it is known that weed is safer and healthy than drink and smokes so why is something safer illegal and wasting people tax money
 
Then if you don't believe in God, why are you asking opinion from people who believe in God and why are you even here? to bash on us? Whatever the reason maybe.. even using logic we can conclude it is wrong. why? because even eating it and letting your body feel this effect will keep you away from dealing with problems in the proper way, which will cause you to be extremely sensitive to problems and strong feelings when you don't have any weed. And using ANY other drugs is pretty dumb too. Why hallucinate? Instead appreciate the complexity of the universe you live in, that should make you awestruck.
 
Incredible logic of yours. So if God really existed (which He does) and if He was evil like you say, then don't you think He would've just zapped you with lighting right now and kill you because of what you just said to Him? Yeah the answer is no. Why? you have free will to disobey or to obey God. He doesn't force any one. But Hey Jesus said He's the way the truth and the life and NO ONE goes to the father except THROUGH Him. So if you choose not to follow God's only WAY then you choose to not go to the Father.
 
Adrianv125 said:
Then if you don't believe in God, why are you asking opinion from people who believe in God and why are you even here? to bash on us? Whatever the reason maybe.. even using logic we can conclude it is wrong. why? because even eating it and letting your body feel this effect will keep you away from dealing with problems in the proper way, which will cause you to be extremely sensitive to problems and strong feelings when you don't have any weed. And using ANY other drugs is pretty dumb too. Why hallucinate? Instead appreciate the complexity of the universe you live in, that should make you awestruck.
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its called getting different opinion from a different perspective do you have some problem with me being on here i havent gone round posting saying your god is deff 100% not real no i havent if you have some problem with me well live with it.
ok seeing how i use weed for social activtes i am not runiing from anything its just nice being able to relax from a stressful day it doesnt make you forget its like alchole i wouldnt drink to drown my sorrows the same with cannibis.
 
Adrianv125 said:
Incredible logic of yours. So if God really existed (which He does) and if He was evil like you say, then don't you think He would've just zapped you with lighting right now and kill you because of what you just said to Him? Yeah the answer is no. Why? you have free will to disobey or to obey God. He doesn't force any one. But Hey Jesus said He's the way the truth and the life and NO ONE goes to the father except THROUGH Him. So if you choose not to follow God's only WAY then you choose to not go to the Father.
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remember the flood which apperntly happened noahs ark many chose not to follow god for what ever reason maybe they didnt like the rule of stoning their child so he killed them all so much for letting those people have free will it got them killed so what its either follow me and live or die a painful death yer buddy that is not true free will and who says hes still not doing this i really hate to bring this up but if god made that flood then whose to say he didnt make the tsunami hit japan killing thousands is this right no it isnt unless you can prove to me that your god wouldnt do that even tho he has in the past.

if you dont get this then let me put it another way i tell you, you can walk left or right you have the choice but if you go right im going to kill you. am i really given you a choice or forceing you to chose left so you can live.

aswell as the divine plan god has for all of us yer if god know everything and planned everything again not free will that means hes in control
 
If you truly want to understand why God poured out the flood, then I suggest you study the book of Genesis as a whole and not just look at it with a pre-biased opinion and quote your opinion on why you think He did it. Second of all, the whole reason why man was created was to walk with God. To be in communion with Him, He created us in His image. Once man chose to go his own way, he went his own way. To this day things are the same, you can choose to be under the control, yeah I said CONTROL of God and you will see His power manifested in your life such as I have seen and have actually seen super natural healing and many other things in my life that can't be explained as man's power. Or you can choose to go your own way and you will start to see all kinds of evil happen in this world such as those we are seeing today.
 
Adrianv125 said:
If you truly want to understand why God poured out the flood, then I suggest you study the book of Genesis as a whole and not just look at it with a pre-biased opinion and quote your opinion on why you think He did it. Second of all, the whole reason why man was created was to walk with God. To be in communion with Him, He created us in His image. Once man chose to go his own way, he went his own way. To this day things are the same, you can choose to be under the control, yeah I said CONTROL of God and you will see His power manifested in your life such as I have seen and have actually seen super natural healing and many other things in my life that can't be explained as man's power. Or you can choose to go your own way and you will start to see all kinds of evil happen in this world such as those we are seeing today.
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this will be the last post so the thread can continue on this subject so this super natural healing explain what you seen have you seen a lost limb on a person regrow and speaking about evil there are countires which under your religion where people are killed for being gay or chosen not to belive or being told not to use condoms so it spreads aids causing death to spread its not just muslim countrys
 
no, I have been healed from diseases instantly from prayer. So has my little brother from pneumonia. My friend healed from anemia. Many healings throughout my life. First one I ever saw was when I was only 5. I had a big blister on my index finger a day before Christmas because I caught my finger at the door of my house and so yeah it was purple and huge. And right at 12:00 a.m. Of Christmas eve it disappeared out of nowhere, my grandma saw it. Many things have happened in my life that can't be explained as my own power, but God's so to Him be the glory forever and ever.
 
I do not follow any religion, I follow Christ. And my relationship with My Lord is between me and my Lord. If anyone sins they sin against God, and they will give an account of their life to Him. If anyone sins against me I must forgive because my God has forgiven all my sin.
 
wolfywolfs said:
excuse me but dont tell me what to do i dont follow god so [blank] him not to get into god said alot of things before like go kill non belivers stone children etc then suddenly turn around and say no sorry i was wrong do this now (so much for perfect god) and suddenly everyone like ok its god hes allowed to do this and we will never understand his reason so by that his reason has a good enough chance to be bad reasons. so by gods words there pretty hard to trust or to even figure out what they mean seeing how there are different interpretations.

now with that said lets forget about what the bible says for a minute and ask this it is known that weed is safer and healthy than drink and smokes so why is something safer illegal and wasting people tax money
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first of all, God never said "sorry i was wrong" so dont make claims unless you can support them with quotes or citation. second of all the old testament was a time before Christ, a time where God had things like that going on because Jesus had yet to come to pay for our sins. AND also dont make the claim that he said to kill non believers. why dont you support that with a chapter or verse? and if you can i would be glad to make that clearer to you. what most non believers dont understand is that sin has to be paid for. if you break a law you go to jail etc. Mans sin had to be paid for before Christ came. therefore God took matters into his own hands to display his power and to show people that sinning is wrong. i went off on a tangent but I cant sit here and watch you say (blank) Him. not gonna fly with me and im sure not with many others. i have a great concern for you and i would love to talk about your disbelief.
 
wolfywolfs said:
this will be the last post so the thread can continue on this subject so this super natural healing explain what you seen have you seen a lost limb on a person regrow and speaking about evil there are countires which under your religion where people are killed for being gay or chosen not to belive or being told not to use condoms so it spreads aids causing death to spread its not just muslim countrys
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did you know that in 53 countries the bible is forbidden? that people die for proclaiming they are christian?? look up voice of the martyrs online and youll see what im talking about. open your mind. you make it seem like we are running the world and causing death? there are more christians in africa then anywhere else in the world. and none of them are killed for being gay. read the GOSPEL. the good news, Jesus came and dided for us because we were bad people. and he told us to love EVERYONE no matter what or who they are. i love the Gay man the same as i love the murderer and the thief, because that is what Jesus taught.
 
JimM1228 said:
first of all, God never said "sorry i was wrong" so dont make claims unless you can support them with quotes or citation. second of all the old testament was a time before Christ, a time where God had things like that going on because Jesus had yet to come to pay for our sins. AND also dont make the claim that he said to kill non believers. why dont you support that with a chapter or verse? and if you can i would be glad to make that clearer to you. what most non believers dont understand is that sin has to be paid for. if you break a law you go to jail etc. Mans sin had to be paid for before Christ came. therefore God took matters into his own hands to display his power and to show people that sinning is wrong. i went off on a tangent but I cant sit here and watch you say (blank) Him. not gonna fly with me and im sure not with many others. i have a great concern for you and i would love to talk about your disbelief.
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Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB).



They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.



Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)



if god has great power why resort to death or even command people to do it why not let jesus come early this is not a all loveing caring great god if he has to result to killing and what about free will these people chose these paths and yet god punished them for it so whos to say most people belived just so they wouldnt die thats not a real choice.

and yes i know god didnt say "i was wrong sorry" i was doing what god might of been thinking for going old to new anyway i now back up my claims and chucked in a story of god commanding to kill.

now answer me if god has all the power in the world why kill what justifys that we have to have wars to fight for peoples rights and freedom god has the power to do that with out a war yet he choses blood
 
JimM1228 said:
did you know that in 53 countries the bible is forbidden? that people die for proclaiming they are christian?? look up voice of the martyrs online and youll see what im talking about. open your mind. you make it seem like we are running the world and causing death? there are more christians in africa then anywhere else in the world. and none of them are killed for being gay. read the GOSPEL. the good news, Jesus came and dided for us because we were bad people. and he told us to love EVERYONE no matter what or who they are. i love the Gay man the same as i love the murderer and the thief, because that is what Jesus taught.
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no i was not stating i was merly stating countries that take religion to another level are general worse of and about africa are you blind and deaf African gay-rights activists stand strong as brutality rises - The Globe and Mail

Uganda: Gays, HIV+ people will be killed, sympathisers jailed - Afrik-news.com : Africa news, Maghreb news - The african daily newspaper

BBC News - Uganda gay rights activist David Kato killed

BBC NEWS | Africa | Sierra Leone gay activist killed

now for you to say that none are being killed for being gay in africa is like saying the holocust never happened they are being killed imprisioned beaten do you agree with what there doing do you think this is right that this is fair that this is love from your book or are you gona turn around and tell me that aficans are not true chrisitains

as for the 53 countries banning the bible i went to check and the number i got were between 25 - 35 from the different sources i checked so wheres your source
 
wolfywolfs said:
you say it keeps people from god but what if one took drugs because that felt closer to god or felt like they understood it better so there take the drug to be with god than be away from him
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Are you trying to be with god?
 
wolfywolfs said:
i decided to talk about a different topic for once :P

i want to know your opinion on drugs

my view is that soft drugs like cannibis magic mushrooms. these drugs are known to do hardly any damage the worst thing that can happen to you is haveing a bad trip but you wont die from it unlike alcohole which if can kill you if you drink so much at one time.

now with cannibis i dont see why its illegal its safer than drinking or smoking(unless u use tabacco with the cannibis) it has many medical benifits. now with the war on drugs which we know costs alot of money all its doing is wasting money most people who are in jail due to drug related cases are people who abuse not dealers how is that solving the problem its justs costing more to keep average joes in jail.

if you was to legalise and regulate it it would costs less less people will get sick and do it in a safe enviroment the blackmarket income will drop the will be less crime police lawerys courts systems will have more time you you may pay less taxes or pay the same amount and the money that went on the war of drugs can go to bigger and better things.

now let me hear your views
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My OPINION is :
I think alcohol should be illegal, but since it's legal, why not cannibis?

for me, I can't use any thing which might cause an addiction as I am an addict/alcoholic
If I use anything I will spending all my time either using or finding a way to use instead of living for God.
 
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