Europe tightening the noose on freedom

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If no one comes to Jesus save by work of Holy Spirit, then Holy Spirit must not be taken out at the very near rapture.
How do we understand this?
best wishes:)


I don't think He will be taken out at all because He will be continuing to save new believers in the great tribulation through Christians. The restrainer is someone else.


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If we are truly His, we should be "finding out" each and every minute as we walk in relationship with Him.
If we aren't it matters not what "our" plans are.
blessings:)(y)
 
If we are truly His, we should be "finding out" each and every minute as we walk in relationship with Him.
If we aren't it matters not what "our" plans are.
blessings:)(y)


God gave His plans for me regarding what to do in the great tribulation. Then I took them as my own. They were never just my "own."

If what you say is the case, wouldn't more pre-tribbers have a post-trib plan B?

This is why I encourage a post-trib plan for pre-tribbers, because of what the Bible plainly says about it. It wouldn't be love for the pre-trib brethren at all if I kept silent.


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I have doubt of this.
Since you will be here I wish you well.:(:(:(
Hilton Sutton and others share a teaching said to be from Holy Spirit that the love of God is so very great only the hardest of hearts will reject Him. With that there will be multiple "taking away" events of His Own and we know from scripture there will be "Saints of the Rapture".
blessings:)(y)
 
I have doubt of this.
Since you will be here I wish you well.:(:(:(
Hilton Sutton and others share a teaching said to be from Holy Spirit that the love of God is so very great only the hardest of hearts will reject Him. With that there will be multiple "taking away" events of His Own and we know from scripture there will be "Saints of the Rapture".
blessings:)(y)


The Bible also says you and all the pre-tribbers will still be here too but none of you will believe this until the great tribulation is upon you.

Let's start with this September. I guarantee that the rapture won't happen then.


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God gave His plans for me regarding what to do in the great tribulation. Then I took them as my own. They were never just my "own."

If what you say is the case, wouldn't more pre-tribbers have a post-trib plan B?

This is why I encourage a post-trib plan for pre-tribbers, because of what the Bible plainly says about it. It wouldn't be love for the pre-trib brethren at all if I kept silent.


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Watchman Nee shared that martyrs are martyrs long before they are killed. His point is you must have the mindset that you have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer you that live but Christ that lives in you. That is my plan B as well as my plan A.
 
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The Bible also says you and all the pre-tribbers will still be here too but none of you will believe this until the great tribulation is upon you.

Let's start with this September. I guarantee that the rapture won't happen then.


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Wow, you and Dude are both prophets.
 
Watchman Nee shared that martyrs are martyrs long before they are killed. His point is you must have the mindset that you have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer you that live but Christ that lives in you. That is my plan B as well as my plan A.

Good! I hope so!


Wow, you and Dude are both prophets.


The Bible says the rapture is AFTER the tribulation. Don't need to have special revelation for that!


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Good! I hope so!





The Bible says the rapture is AFTER the tribulation. Don't need to have special revelation for that!


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The Bible says we must all go through tribulation, never says that we must all go through "the" tribulation. Christians have been going through tribulation for the last 2,000 years.
 
The Bible says we must all go through tribulation, never says that we must all go through "the" tribulation. Christians have been going through tribulation for the last 2,000 years.


The Bible talks about both, but makes the great tribulation much more significant in that it will affect ALL Christians in the world at the same time and not like small individual groups in regular tribulation. The Bible even talks about what happens specifically to Christians during that time - that we will be persecuted and put to death, and that the antichrist will be give permission or authority to conquer us and succeed in this.

Satan would want Christians to not be prepared for this by pushing a pre-trib rapture in hopes of making some break faith with God. That's why I caution pre-tribbers to have a post-trib plan B for when the pre-trib rapture doesn't happen.


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The Bible talks about both, but makes the great tribulation much more significant in that it will affect ALL Christians in the world at the same time and not like small individual groups in regular tribulation. The Bible even talks about what happens specifically to Christians during that time - that we will be persecuted and put to death, and that the antichrist will be give permission or authority to conquer us and succeed in this.

Satan would want Christians to not be prepared for this by pushing a pre-trib rapture in hopes of making some break faith with God. That's why I caution pre-tribbers to have a post-trib plan B for when the pre-trib rapture doesn't happen.


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very well said!!!
 
We've all seen how badly the EU has tilted toward authoritarian dictatorship. The Europe that has existed for thousands of years is dying before our eyes.

It now looks likely they will pass by October a law that EVERY PRIVATE text, chat, picture, or video sent to ANYBODY else, will be scanned and monitored BEFORE any encryption can be used. It's hard to imagine what satanic ills this will unleash.

"Chat Control" - EU Proposal To Scan All Private Messages Gains Momentum | ZeroHedge
Well, the issue is prevent and fight against child missue! But because of the danger to realize this plan. I dont believe it will come.
If it comes this is a step closer to the Antichrist.
 
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Well, the issue is prevent and fight against child missue! But because of the danger to realize this plan. I dont believe it will come.
If it comes this is a step closer to the Antichrist.

seems like they are using the " protecting children" as an excuse to monitor what people are saying.

the rest of your post, i 100% agree with!
 
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Well, the issue is prevent and fight against child missue! But because of the danger to realize this plan. I dont believe it will come.
If it comes this is a step closer to the Antichrist.
It's almost as if allowing Mass immigration from countries where it's ok to diddle kids was a bad idea
 
It's almost as if allowing Mass immigration from countries where it's ok to diddle kids was a bad idea
Nope, sadly for missuseing children is no help from Immigrants necessary, there are enough missusers in all countrys vailable. Most of them missusing in there own familys!
 
Nope, sadly for missuseing children is no help from Immigrants necessary, there are enough missusers in all countrys vailable. Most of them missusing in there own familys!
Nope, sadly for missuseing children is no help from Immigrants necessary, there are enough missusers in all countrys vailable. Most of them missusing in there own familys!
But it's not even just that. They also sexually assault women and commit acts of violence. Police don't even bother investigating because they don't want to be called racist.
But you can't say that or you're allegedly racist or islamophobic