Ever OK to hit spouse?

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Maddog said:
Of course it's good. It's called discipline.
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That's the biggest B.S. I've ever heard. Parents beating the crap out of their kids in the name of discipline. Hitting you spouse in the name of discipline. So I guess people can't get in trouble for knocking someone else out its "discipline" . uuuuuugggggggggh that pisses me off. :mad:
 
tryingtofindhim said:
That's the biggest B.S. I've ever heard. Parents beating the crap out of their kids in the name of discipline. Hitting you spouse in the name of discipline. So I guess people can't get in trouble for knocking someone else out its "discipline" . uuuuuugggggggggh that pisses me off. :mad:
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Who said anything about 'beating the crap' out of kids or knocking people unconscious?
 
Maddog said:
The type that doesn't cause any lasting injury. For example, a clip round the ear, a slap, or possibly a cane across the palm of the hand.
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I still don't like the sound of that; I don't like the idea of using pain in the name of discipline. It teaches nothing.
 
there's better ways to go about this. Striking someone is not a good way. I was hit by my parents in the name of discipline and i hate them with a deep passion and don't talk to them EVER and we live in the same house. if that's what you want in a spouse be my guest.
 
tryingtofindhim said:
there's better ways to go about this. Striking someone is not a good way. I was hit by my parents in the name of discipline and i hate them with a deep passion and don't talk to them EVER and we live in the same house. if that's what you want in a spouse be my guest.
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You hate your parents because they hit you, or is that unrelated?
 
Maddog said:
Sorry, I meant corporal punishment in schools. To be perfectly honest, I'm not particularly advocating it, I just don't see it as wrong.
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I have no problem with spanking kids, but I do think if a child is to be spanked it should only ever be done by the parents, as far as I see no-one but a childs parents has the right to issue physical discipline.
 
Maddog said:
Depends what the problem was. However, those scenarios are entirely different, namely because a man has authority over his wife whereas he does not over his boss.
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Maddog, I'd be very interested to know whether you are advocating men hitting their wives in certain situations. If so, I'd be very interested to know in which situations you would consider this to be an appropriate action, noting that husbands are called to live with their wives in an understanding way, showing honour to the woman as the weaker vessel.
 
Matthew said:
I have no problem with spanking kids, but I do think if a child is to be spanked it should only ever be done by the parents, as far as I see no-one but a childs parents has the right to issue physical discipline.
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Why do you think that?
 
Sharp said:
Maddog, I'd be very interested to know whether you are advocating men hitting their wives in certain situations. If so, I'd be very interested to know in which situations you would consider this to be an appropriate action, noting that husbands are called to live with their wives in an understanding way, showing honour to the woman as the weaker vessel.
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It's not so much a case of specifically advocating it, rather simply that he has the authority to do so if required. Such circumstances should hopefully be rare, but as an example, I would suggest it's reasonable to do so in instances in which his wife is deliberately and seriously usurping his authority.
 
Maddog said:
Why do you think that?
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Firstly because I see from my own life and those of my siblings that physical punishment issued by parents in the correct manner is generally sufficent to produce a decent and civillised adult, so no wider context of physical discipline is needed if done correctly by parents.

Also, I believe that beyond basic verbal correction of attitudes and behaviours that we should all do for eachother, it is for parents to raise thier children, not society as a whiole, and therefore any serious discipline should be provided by those who have made the decision to create that life, raise the child and mould them into an adult.

Finally I also believe that corporal punishment can potentially be a doorway to abuse of minors by adults, it already happens that teachers abuse students sometimes and if corporal punishment comes back the poorer teachers and those simply with a shorther fuse may go to far and a lot of other problems begin, the solution to most problems in schools etc. need to be prevented with good discipline at home, the rest will take care of itself.
 
Matthew said:
Firstly because I see from my own life and those of my siblings that physical punishment issued by parents in the correct manner is generally sufficent to produce a decent and civillised adult, so no wider context of physical discipline is needed if done correctly by parents.

Also, I believe that beyond basic verbal correction of attitudes and behaviours that we should all do for eachother, it is for parents to raise thier children, not society as a whiole, and therefore any serious discipline should be provided by those who have made the decision to create that life, raise the child and mould them into an adult.
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I agree with your basic point about parents being the ones mainly responsible for a kid's upbringing. However, I simply see the separation of verbal and physical discipline as an artificial one. If we allow teachers to exercise discipline in the classroom at all, then also allowing a clip round the ear or a ruler across the hand etc. is not unreasonble.
 
Maddog said:
I agree with your basic point about parents being the ones mainly responsible for a kid's upbringing. However, I simply see the separation of verbal and physical discipline as an artificial one. If we allow teachers to exercise discipline in the classroom at all, then also allowing a clip round the ear or a ruler across the hand etc. is not unreasonble.
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I don't see it as an artficial one because everyone asscociates verbal correction with everyone else, even at a young age we do it for eachother and so do all adults, or at least there are times when they should, but physical discipline is different, parents have a natural authority over their children and so have the right to take discipline to the required levels and children naturally understand that they have to submit to them, this isn't the case with other adults, not even teachers, which is why kids often scream in rebellion 'you're not my mother' or something like that.

However teachers do not have that personal connection with children in spite of the authority they have, I think if people outside the family unit begin issuing physical punsihment it can create confusion for a child and be counter productive, especially if their parents disciline them in a different way, which is not something a teacher will be aware of.

The key in my view is consistency, I would say that children need the primary source of guidance in their lives to be consistent and from the same people so they come to have a respect for that person(s) and adhere to the standards being taught.
 
Maddog said:
Depends what the problem was. However, those scenarios are entirely different, namely because a man has authority over his wife whereas he does not over his boss.
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maddog ive respected you and your opinion for yrs now comin here to cc but i must say...this comment is VERY disappointing and in a way hurtful...ive been hit by a partner and it was ok because we were married?? ...very sad statement :( in fact...im quite shocked
 
Maddog said:
It's not so much a case of specifically advocating it, rather simply that he has the authority to do so if required. Such circumstances should hopefully be rare, but as an example, I would suggest it's reasonable to do so in instances in which his wife is deliberately and seriously usurping his authority.
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Please dear sweet young man NEVER marry. Thank you.
 
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