Evil .. Who is responsible ..

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Who is responsible for evil in the World? Is it God as he is sovereign or is the Devil n his army as HE uses humans to do alot of evil things and he himself does alot of evil..... OR is our sinful nature acting up. Thus, PRODUCE WORKS THAT ARE EVIL BECAUSE WE ARE EVIL OR HAVE A EVIL NATURE.......
 
TOKNOWGOD said:
Who is responsible for evil in the World? Is it God as he is sovereign or is the Devil n his army as HE uses humans to do alot of evil things and he himself does alot of evil..... OR is our sinful nature acting up. Thus, PRODUCE WORKS THAT ARE EVIL BECAUSE WE ARE EVIL OR HAVE A EVIL NATURE.......
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man's disobedience started it,
To be clear,adam started it by listening to eve.
Second adam 'Jesus' came to fix it,
He is going to return again to rid of evil.
 
Man does not need anything or anyone to sin...its our nature since the fall.

Isaiah 45:7
 
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Who is responsible for evil in the World?
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Sin has NO existance by itself, it is simply an attitute of mind that a free will being (angel or human) can take!

Sin is not due to some flaw in the soul, but simply to the possession of free will. Both Adam and Eve sinned, though from different motives, in spite of the fact that they were created completely perfect in body, soul and spirit. Lucifer also sinned, though perfect in all his ways from the Creation. Perfection of creation is no safeguard against sin! (Eccl 7v29, Ezekiel 28v12-15, Isaiah 53v6, Gen 2v5-25)

Neither is perfection of surroundings a preventative. The first sins both in Heaven and Earth were committed under ideal conditions.

If all sinners repented there would be no sin!

Yahweh Shalom...
 
God created everything and does as God wills. God wants to test us, God needs evil to do that.
 
Who is responsible for evil?

Mmmmm... the first politician???
 
Satan influenced it, man fell for it, man carries on with it. Satan is pleased with it. So evil originally came from Satan, through his evil influences, man fell for Satan's lie. Man blames God. God sends Jesus to die, to pay for our sins, But sat still influences evil, through men, mam is weak, when i mean man, i mean man/woman we are weak, we are only strong when we are in standing next to God.

Satan however is not to blame all the time, But you can blame him for his influences, so in a sense we are to blame too. because we have fallen for Satan's influences and his sinful charm.

Just remember what Jesus did at the cross. the price he paid for our sin, and God went to the depth's of hell to take the keys, and all Satan's powers. So who is the weak one now? however, he still has the power of influences. and its that we need to watch for.
 
God needs nothing, but everything is in His plan since He exists in all times and places. God knew what adam was going to do before He created the world and had His plan to deal with the acts that seperate people from Him.

By the way, sin is done away with for those who have faith in Christ, as far from you as the east is from the west.

Its only the flesh that wants to focus on sin.

Love God, renew your mind with thoughts of God and sin has no place in your life.

satan is under the thumb of God or God is not God.

Die to self so Christ lives in you. Amen.....and we are imperfect beings, in flesh, who die imperfectly and obey imperfectly.

Lord Jesus, help me
 
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Who is responsible for evil in the World? Is it God as he is sovereign or is the Devil n his army as HE uses humans to do alot of evil things and he himself does alot of evil..... OR is our sinful nature acting up. Thus, PRODUCE WORKS THAT ARE EVIL BECAUSE WE ARE EVIL OR HAVE A EVIL NATURE.......
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I'm only very vaguely acquainted with the notion of quantum consciousness. But the fact that when God created something good with free will that later turned out evil only reinforces the idea of an element of true randomness. And I think it shows us that our decisions are not purely a product of our environment. That our decisions aren't always governed by our environment is an idea the Bible upholds. But of course our environment always has an effect on our choices.

So I go not necessarily with sinful nature but with free will, seeing as that we are not entirely like God and are separate beings from him.
 
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Who is responsible for evil in the World? Is it God as he is sovereign or is the Devil n his army as HE uses humans to do alot of evil things and he himself does alot of evil..... OR is our sinful nature acting up. Thus, PRODUCE WORKS THAT ARE EVIL BECAUSE WE ARE EVIL OR HAVE A EVIL NATURE.......
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I guess you could try to blame God because He gave us free will or a power of choice. But since God gave His created beings this power of choice - I would say you would have to blame Lucifer for causing evil uprising in heaven and Adam and Eve for the evil on earth because of the choices they made. Unfortunately for the human race we are stuck with the choice that was made before us, however every human with the exception of Jesus (who is also God) has sinned and fallen short of God's glory so we are all to blame for the evil in our own little corners of the world.
 
From a christian perspective, we can deduce one of three things: 1. free will does not exist and God is in the same boat as we and so there's no point in blaming him for our actions, 2. the Bible misrepresents God and the biblical God does not exist so there's no point in blaming him, or 3. free will exists and both we and God have it, because the Bible portrays him as giving it to us. As a result we cannot blame him for our actions or the presence of evil if he is good.
 
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