If I may ask, what's your church denomination?
I don't lable myself that way, but I guess I would lean protestant.
If I may ask, what's your church denomination?
Pentecostal? Reformed?I don't lable myself that way, but I guess I would lean protestant.
Pentecostal? Reformed?
I believe both are to be true. The deeper and more intimate manifestations are those that are spiritually discerned.You said if I'm understanding you correctly, that you won't feel His presence physically or the physical senses, but only spiritual?
Can you expand on that position?
I believe both are to be true. The deeper and more intimate manifestations are those that are spiritually discerned.
Sure, but that's not my emphasis. Anyone, believer or unbeliever, can discern with physical senses. Everyone present at Pentecost knew something was going on. Many misinterpreted what that was, but all knew something was transpiring. My concern wasn't to differentiate between experience and discernment, but between what is physically discerned and spiritually discerned.Having the experience, and discerning the experience, I kind of see as two separate things.
Sure, but that's not my emphasis. Anyone, believer or unbeliever, can discern with physical senses. Everyone present at Pentecost knew something was going on. Many misinterpreted what that was, but all knew something was transpiring. My concern wasn't to differentiate between experience and discernment, but between what is physically discerned and spiritually discerned.
Let's try this way:OK, I got ya.
It would just be my understanding that if a Christian has a spiritual experience with Christ, the discernment would be an inevitable accompaniment of that experience.
As for a physical feeling I think that would be part of it also.
Let's try this way:
Jesus said that when 2 or 3 are gathered in His name, one can know Jesus is present because the word of God true. One can also know Christ is present if God performed a miracle. One could also know of His presence if God gave an internal witness. Each case is a different experience with different discernment.
What do you believe the mind of Christ to be?I assume we have all had that honeymoon experience when His Spirit first comes to reside in us. But for me something else happened. Something that has been with me for the entire salvation journey. I strongly think that should happen to everyone who responds in faith correctly. I understand it to be the mind of Christ.
What do you believe the mind of Christ to be?