Oddly enough I somehow messed up my response to you a minute ago but I will see if I can edit it something wierd made the post strange
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Personal empirical experience serves as evidence for any individual, but is not transferable, just as you cannot transfer your love for one person to be received by someone else. If you seek understanding, you must do so diligently and sincerely. Starting from a place of believing faith to be unrealistic is self-defeating and contradictory.
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No worries I can just repost it.
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What is faith?
To believe in the unseen to have hope where there is none to refuse to bow to uncertainty but it also far more than that.
Faith in itself is not normal, our brains are hardwired to be more prone to reason and logic we have an instinctive nature that helps us to survive we require proof to walk off a ledge reasured that we will be caught upon doing so however faith opposes that and the one who believes walks off the edge without seeing at all any evidence of being caught.
Faith also is not simply in believing in the unseen it also is have believe in a person or yourself, anyone who has ever donee anything great in history had three certain traits- firstly they were in no way normal. Anyone who did anything great was not normal they were seen as odd abnormal or straight out crazy. Second they didn't care what society said or thought of them they walked their own path and dared to do what the norm opposed and third the6y believed in themselves having faith that eventually they would achieve their endeavers they had no real evidence of it but they saw something others didn't a dream a vision and believed in it and themselves.
You said what evidence and this was exactly my point our brains are hardwired for that faith is not normal the fact you require evidence that faith exists proves my entire point
He can try. I just got the alert and read just what I responded to, not the rest of the thread.
Based on what? Your faith in your own opinion proves you wrong LOL
Nonn-believers are almost always illogical that way
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Please show that there is a thing called faith. There cannot be any feelings involved according to the Bible.
You are showing you have faith in your own opinion. I have pointed that out to you already but your lack of rationality in this regard will not allow you to acknowledge it.
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I don’t have an opinion on faith since I don’t think it exists. Since you believe it exists the burden of proof is on you.
You show over and over again that you have faith in your own opinion. But like I said, you are irrational in this regard and will refuse to admit it. Your opinion is that faith does not exist LOL. Your lack of logic is somewhat shocking, or at least, should be - TO YOU
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Is it illogical that the man in the moon does not exist. There is no faith involved with statement. And I don’t need to prove he doesn’t.You show over and over again that you have faith in your own opinion. But like I said, you are irrational in this regard and will refuse to admit it. Your opinion is that faith does not exist LOL. Your lack of logic is somewhat shocking, or at least, should be TO YOU
The alleged existence of some man in the moon does not equate in any way with knowing whether or not there is a God Who created us for a purpose. If you have no sense of needing to know the truth of some matter that has been at the core of man's search for meaning from ages old, what are you doing here, really? If you come simply to mock and to scoff as seems obvious, you will not last long.
don't feed the trolls people, the enemy is currently attacking all of the christian chat rooms and other forums. They aren't here to seek answers, they are here to divide and confuse. Now a whole four pages of christian chat has been wasted on one of satans minions.
the original Christians weren't called "Christians", it was a bad name they didn't like, or so i have read. so to be unsure, well ....
there can be many reasons for many things, and God judges best.
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I’m sorry, you missed the point. You were saying that I have faith in my opinion. I’m not saying that at all. I have an opinion, it’s that simple. I tried to show that by the moon example. Of course I want to know truth. How do you know you have it when you say it comes by faith? I say faith doesn’t exist, but Only knowing by learning or experience. What would be helpful is for you to answer How believing in something with no evidence leads you to truth?