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Farewell..
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Nalu
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If you leave everyone would be bummed out. Please stay.
As Julliana pointed out earlier, a break is cool. So take a couple hours off then come back.
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Jullianna
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I've been praying for all of us for a couple of days that God would bring tremendous healing to EVERYONE. Some of us prayed for peace recently and we should have known that satan hates that and anticipated problems. As the scriptures say, we shouldn't be ignorant of his schemes and I'm feeling pretty ignorant right now for not keeping my head up. Normally we would have caught it, but I think that some of us were distracted by the drastic impact Christmas has on us and our families and didn't see it coming. And should have. We can't allow him to use us to hurt one another. We're awake now. We're alert now. It needs to stop. And we really need to stop talking about it all and let it go.
Sooooooooooooo! Welcome back! Let's all post more positive things in positive threads and encourage one another as we are called to do
*group hug*
Sooooooooooooo! Welcome back! Let's all post more positive things in positive threads and encourage one another as we are called to do
*group hug*
I suggest you all stay away from the other forums I frequent. Some people here are jerks. Some people here believe they all have it figured out.
But it is very rare for a thread like this to receive attention anyplace else. Stick around, Zero. If you ever want to borrow my insensitivity, you're welcome to a Vulcan mind meld (bear in mind there will be a nominal fee).
But it is very rare for a thread like this to receive attention anyplace else. Stick around, Zero. If you ever want to borrow my insensitivity, you're welcome to a Vulcan mind meld (bear in mind there will be a nominal fee).
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah
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When you go into any group of diverse people, your going to need thicker skin. Just because people are "christians" doesnt mean there always going to be nice and always respectful of everyone else. The lord knows i can have my off days and be down right mean sometimes to.
Ive been on these forums for awhile, and you know all those members i have heard complain about people being mean and rude, ive seen those same members say the ugliest sarcastic just as rude statements to others. It really is true. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.
And really if someone in this virtual realm offends you, so what. Life in general is offensive. Your gonna need to learn how to deal with hurts and offenses anyway. This is a great place to practice at.
Ive been on these forums for awhile, and you know all those members i have heard complain about people being mean and rude, ive seen those same members say the ugliest sarcastic just as rude statements to others. It really is true. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.
And really if someone in this virtual realm offends you, so what. Life in general is offensive. Your gonna need to learn how to deal with hurts and offenses anyway. This is a great place to practice at.
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Jullianna
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I’ve been pondering these things….
Can we say that just because most of us have made similar mistakes in the past that it is okay to continuously repeat them? Should we not be striving for something better, something higher? If we bring up the past mistakes of others have we truly forgiven them as we should have? Would we want God to do that with us?
Why would christians want a forum to train us to harden our hearts toward one another? Why would we want to be de-sensitized? Doesn’t the world try to do that enough as it is? Do we really want a place that many of us consider to be a sanctuary from the world to be just like any other place on the planet?
Should we not attempt to use the negatives that occur for positive change? If we don’t, isn’t the pain for nothing?
Just seems like a waste to me...I dunno.... Maybe it's my INFJ thingie
Can we say that just because most of us have made similar mistakes in the past that it is okay to continuously repeat them? Should we not be striving for something better, something higher? If we bring up the past mistakes of others have we truly forgiven them as we should have? Would we want God to do that with us?
Why would christians want a forum to train us to harden our hearts toward one another? Why would we want to be de-sensitized? Doesn’t the world try to do that enough as it is? Do we really want a place that many of us consider to be a sanctuary from the world to be just like any other place on the planet?
Should we not attempt to use the negatives that occur for positive change? If we don’t, isn’t the pain for nothing?
Just seems like a waste to me...I dunno.... Maybe it's my INFJ thingie
I’ve been pondering these things….
Can we say that just because most of us have made similar mistakes in the past that it is okay to continuously repeat them? Should we not be striving for something better, something higher? If we bring up the past mistakes of others have we truly forgiven them as we should have? Would we want God to do that with us?
Why would christians want a forum to train us to harden our hearts toward one another? Why would we want to be de-sensitized? Doesn’t the world try to do that enough as it is? Do we really want a place that many of us consider to be a sanctuary from the world to be just like any other place on the planet?
Should we not attempt to use the negatives that occur for positive change? If we don’t, isn’t the pain for nothing?
Just seems like a waste to me...I dunno.... Maybe it's my INFJ thingie
You beat me to my obligatory pointing out of your MBTI type. This is good though, it is a continual affirmation of the fact I am an INTJ and not an INFJ as I, at times, suspect. So thank you for saving me from a possible identity crisis
Kidding of course.
I agree to a certain extent, but I think this forum has accomplished that goal as far as the reality of human depravity will allow.
This forum, for all its warts, is a special place on the internet. An oasis for those who normally jump on forums normally populated by socialists and atheists. Even if you go to compare it with other Christian forums, it is still special. I think this is largely because people like you populate it.
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Tethered
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I usually live in mbti forums, all types are there. Although it's like when you want one to one chats or those in a certain crowd to respond that some people can't help but jump in xD
inxj's eh, rarest types those
You might not know me Zero, but i've been creeping enough. One of the nicer personalities here.
inxj's eh, rarest types those
You might not know me Zero, but i've been creeping enough. One of the nicer personalities here.
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violakat
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There you go Zer. You never know, there maybe people watching, that just because you are you, you help them.
I’ve been pondering these things….
Can we say that just because most of us have made similar mistakes in the past that it is okay to continuously repeat them? Should we not be striving for something better, something higher? If we bring up the past mistakes of others have we truly forgiven them as we should have? Would we want God to do that with us?
Why would christians want a forum to train us to harden our hearts toward one another? Why would we want to be de-sensitized? Doesn’t the world try to do that enough as it is? Do we really want a place that many of us consider to be a sanctuary from the world to be just like any other place on the planet?
Should we not attempt to use the negatives that occur for positive change? If we don’t, isn’t the pain for nothing?
Just seems like a waste to me...I dunno.... Maybe it's my INFJ thingie
without derailing this thread too much I just wanted to point out what I've seen on this and why I think you are asking the impossible.
The core issue is language, not attitude or lack of love or concern. Language provides many areas of ambiguity. It isn't a matter of hardening your heart, but rather of ackowledging that there is ambiguity and seeking to understand. the english language, language in general can't be fixed here on these forums.
When words have different meanings; when words have different associations for each person, it is simply impossible to avoid.
The best we can do is what, I believe, you called becoming desensitize; what I would call being slow to judge. If I wasn't on my phone I'd lookup a proverb, but guess my own words will have to suffice!
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violakat
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without derailing this thread too much I just wanted to point out what I've seen on this and why I think you are asking the impossible.
The core issue is language, not attitude or lack of love or concern. Language provides many areas of ambiguity. It isn't a matter of hardening your heart, but rather of ackowledging that there is ambiguity and seeking to understand. the english language, language in general can't be fixed here on these forums.
When words have different meanings; when words have different associations for each person, it is simply impossible to avoid.
The best we can do is what, I believe, you called becoming desensitize; what I would call being slow to judge. If I wasn't on my phone I'd lookup a proverb, but guess my own words will have to suffice!
Is this the one you mean?
Proverbs 14:29
He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalts folly.
without derailing this thread too much I just wanted to point out what I've seen on this and why I think you are asking the impossible.
The core issue is language, not attitude or lack of love or concern. Language provides many areas of ambiguity. It isn't a matter of hardening your heart, but rather of ackowledging that there is ambiguity and seeking to understand. the english language, language in general can't be fixed here on these forums.
When words have different meanings; when words have different associations for each person, it is simply impossible to avoid.
The best we can do is what, I believe, you called becoming desensitize; what I would call being slow to judge. If I wasn't on my phone I'd lookup a proverb, but guess my own words will have to suffice!
It was, after all, a misunderstanding that triggered Ender's Xenocide.
Zero,
I'm not sure if this thread existed before I sent you that private message yesterday. If it did, I certainly didn't see it. So the point is, you can't deny it was interesting timing for such a message. God leads and sees things coming before we do. There's something to that.
God bless you in whatever your final decision may end up being. There's no shame in changing your mind. Also, I appreciate your honesty about yourself and how you are.
I'm not sure if this thread existed before I sent you that private message yesterday. If it did, I certainly didn't see it. So the point is, you can't deny it was interesting timing for such a message. God leads and sees things coming before we do. There's something to that.
God bless you in whatever your final decision may end up being. There's no shame in changing your mind. Also, I appreciate your honesty about yourself and how you are.
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah
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I’ve been pondering these things….
Can we say that just because most of us have made similar mistakes in the past that it is okay to continuously repeat them? Should we not be striving for something better, something higher? If we bring up the past mistakes of others have we truly forgiven them as we should have? Would we want God to do that with us?
Why would christians want a forum to train us to harden our hearts toward one another? Why would we want to be de-sensitized? Doesn’t the world try to do that enough as it is? Do we really want a place that many of us consider to be a sanctuary from the world to be just like any other place on the planet?
Should we not attempt to use the negatives that occur for positive change? If we don’t, isn’t the pain for nothing?
Just seems like a waste to me...I dunno.... Maybe it's my INFJ thingie
Your an INFJ and im an ISTP thats a huge difference in personality
I think this may be where the misunderstanding is coming from.
Im by no way saying, harden your heart. Im talking about forgivness. Im talking about when someone offends you on this website take it with a grain of salt, forgive them, and move on. Theres nothing worse than being paralyzed by something offensive someone said. However at the same time, you cannot take everything everyone says straight to heart or your gonna be upset ALL the time.
Why would you even wanna live that way.
I dont let my feelings make decisions for me, i rarely even pay attention to them. So for me being offended works differently. I rationalize the heck out of it. However i understand with your personality its much different.
Neither is right or wrong, i just wanted to explain what i meant
I don't know about anyone else zero, but I am a self-centered, egotistical brat. Just ask my statue. It would have all sorts of stories to tell you.
If you still aren't convinced ask my mirror. You have to say the secret code though.
I think it goes "mirror mirror on the wall, who's is the smartest of them all"
I'm glad you chose to stay with us. just remember we are all flawed in some way, and some folks aren't good with other people.
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Liz01
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Jullianna
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You beat me to my obligatory pointing out of your MBTI type. This is good though, it is a continual affirmation of the fact I am an INTJ and not an INFJ as I, at times, suspect. So thank you for saving me from a possible identity crisis
Kidding of course.
I agree to a certain extent, but I think this forum has accomplished that goal as far as the reality of human depravity will allow.
This forum, for all its warts, is a special place on the internet. An oasis for those who normally jump on forums normally populated by socialists and atheists. Even if you go to compare it with other Christian forums, it is still special. I think this is largely because people like you populate it.
Your last sentence means more than I can say, as you are one of the most objective, rational people I've ever met. I admire that.
I was a mod in a law enforcement forum for several years. I used to pop into atheistic forums from time to time (and sing Christmas carols just because I could
). I was a cop for 9 years. I've been called pretty much everything you could ever call a person to my face. I've been spit on. I've been puked on. I've had people urinate in my patrol car. I've had people shoot at me. I've been stabbed. I've been punched more often than I can count. I've had my hair pulled out by the handful. I've been kicked across rooms. I've been kicked off of porches. I'm not thin-skinned, BUT I'm not as cold as I once was either, and I'm SO glad for that. I don't EVER...EVER want to go back to that.This is a site like no other I've found. I love it here. I want to be used by God to help and encourage as many people as possible here. I love the people here. I don't want to hurt anyone. I don't want to be hurt by anyone. They have their sensitivities. I have mine. None of us has the right to judge the sensitivities of others. We haven't walked in their shoes. And we shouldn't feel the need to apologize for what others may judge to be shortcomings in us in that regard.
What we DO owe ourselves, one another AND GOD, as Nod said above, is forgiveness as soon as we are able to give it. As I posted on my FB status recently, it can be the desire of one's heart and FULL intent to forgive someone, but, being human, we can't always do that instantaneously. We can want it. We can think it. We can say it. But we need to let God complete that work in us. He IS faithful to do just that if we allow it. Unforgiveness is one of the most toxic forces in our lives. I don't want it in mine.
Having seen so much ugliness in life for so many years, I HAVE to believe that God will do as His Word says He will do, and make ALL things (especially our hurts) work together for good for those who are in Christ Jesus, and, for me, that doesn't just mean that He will use it to do a good work in me, but others as well. I'm not His only kid here and I need to remember that.
If I didn't believe He wants to do that, I don't know that I would want to wake up tomorrow and face the human tragedies I encounter on a daily basis.
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Jullianna
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Gabe, I hope you can see the love pouring out of so many who have posted here and I hope it heals your heart. It's the GOOD that God is bringing out of what satan meant for evil toward you. <3
It's the GOOD that God is bringing out of what satan meant for evil toward you. <3
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Jullianna
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You guys are too too much!!
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I'm staying! I'm staying! (I already said I was on page one, but gosh thank you so much for all the heartfelt replies!!! I am speechless!!)
And I wil try to put to use the awesome advice that some of you gave me, too. Thank you.
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I'm staying! I'm staying!
(I already said I was on page one, but gosh thank you so much for all the heartfelt replies!!! I am speechless!!) And I wil try to put to use the awesome advice that some of you gave me, too. Thank you.