Fellowship With Transgenders

[Webers.Home]

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So 'fellowshipping' with transgenders in the Biblical sense is not the same as
spending time with them to evangelize them.

I suspect quite a few Christians would be very surprised to discover there
are numbers of transgendered folk amongst themselves-- male and female,
young and old --who don't need evangelizing just as there are numbers of
other "sinners" who no longer do.

● 1Cor 6:9-11 . . Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor
idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor
thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will
inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you
were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord
Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

The prejudice against transgendered folk is so rampant that it's difficult for
them to find a church where they can get a sense of belonging. Personally, I
classify them as Christians with special needs; and very few mature
believers are willing and/or qualified to provide those needs; choosing
instead to write them off as incorrigible scraps.

Something else to take into consideration is de-transgendering. Many have
realized they've made a dreadful mistake and are taking that route; which is
not entirely possible for some. Those who've gone all-in with radical
surgeries are now in a fix that only a full blown resurrection can repair with
any realistic expectation of achieving 100% success.

They are not alone. Quite a few Christians out there are earnestly longing for
the day when they'll be released from their handicaps and restored to full
function. For some; just getting up on their own two feet will be a blessing of joy
nigh unto impossible to describe.
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[BillyBob]

The prejudice against transgendered folk is so rampant that it's difficult for
them to find a church where they can get a sense of belonging. Personally, I
classify them as Christians with special needs; and very few mature
believers are willing and/or qualified to provide those needs; choosing
instead to write them off as incorrigible scraps.

I'm not sure how you can classify them as Christians with special needs. Is not a Christian a Christ follower?
1) Have they turned from the way that they have chosen to live or are they asking believers to accommodate the way they live?
2) Have they actually turned away from their sin and made the choice to live for God?
These may be difficult things to do but, until they are put into action, then the person has chosen to remain living in sin and is to be treated as an outsider!
2 Corinthians 6:14-15.... Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 What accord has Christ with Belial?

The church is instructed to enforce discipline - it is necessary to maintain purity! However, it should be done in love with the hope that the person will repent and return.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Two things we can learn from the Bible:

1. God NEVER makes mistakes

2. God will give people a reprobate mind when they reject the truth that God NEVER makes mistakes

 

[Webers.Home]

There's a story told at Luke 7:36-50 about an outcast woman. Well; long
story short: one of the religious men present at this dinner judged her on a
curve; and in his pious opinion she was at the very bottom, i.e. down in the
very muck and mire of human depravity.

But it turned out the fallen woman's degree of piety was vastly superior to
the religious man's.

The thing is: he honestly felt that were Jesus a true prophet, he wouldn't
allow that deplorable woman to touch him; not even his feet; which she was
washing with her own tears and using her own hair as a towel to dry them off.

So beware! Though our pious opinions might be honest, they just might
also be honestly wrong instead of right.
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[Webers.Home]

Sometimes culture dictates morality.

For example: I heard tell of a man who lived back east in one of the
southern states where it was okay for Christians to use tobacco but not
okay for them to appear in public wearing a swim suit

When the man moved to California he discovered the opposite, i.e. it was
wrong for Christians to use tobacco while okay for them at a public beach
wearing a swim suit.

● Rom 14:5 . . One man esteemeth one day above another: another
esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own
mind.
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[Fortunate]

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FAQ: Should Christians shun transgenders?

REPLY: Absolutely not!

Transgendering isn't specifically addressed in the Bible, viz: it's a gray area,
and as such ought to be approached in accord with the 14th chapter of
Romans which says, in so many words, that we are not permitted to engage
Christian transgenders with debating nor abuse them with judgmental
criticism.

Transgendering is a rough road to travel due to embarrassing therapy
regimens; and side effects, complications, negative public opinion, doubts,
regrets, disappointment, and mood swings that many would rather not talk
about. So be especially careful with your dialogue so as not to push them to
the point where you'll be forcing them to maintain their poise with fibs.

A little empathy, and a whole lot of tact and courtesy, can be very useful in
helping someone get thru the day, ergo: don't become a hell for
transgenders, instead, become a haven because people really ought to feel
safe with Christians instead of wary.

● Matt 7:12 . . So in everything: do to others what you would have them do
to you.
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Option. Sis is sin.

We shouldn't condone sin to please someone or not to hurt their feelings.

A lot of people are finding ways to justify this but then we must always speak the truth. Sin is sin.

May God help us all Amen.

 

[justahumanbeing]

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FAQ: Should Christians shun transgenders?

REPLY: Absolutely not!

Transgendering isn't specifically addressed in the Bible, viz: it's a gray area,
and as such ought to be approached in accord with the 14th chapter of
Romans which says, in so many words, that we are not permitted to engage
Christian transgenders with debating nor abuse them with judgmental
criticism.

Transgendering is a rough road to travel due to embarrassing therapy
regimens; and side effects, complications, negative public opinion, doubts,
regrets, disappointment, and mood swings that many would rather not talk
about. So be especially careful with your dialogue so as not to push them to
the point where you'll be forcing them to maintain their poise with fibs.

A little empathy, and a whole lot of tact and courtesy, can be very useful in
helping someone get thru the day, ergo: don't become a hell for
transgenders, instead, become a haven because people really ought to feel
safe with Christians instead of wary.

● Matt 7:12 . . So in everything: do to others what you would have them do
to you.
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In any society, Transgenders are an ostracized people. We, including myself would not even look at one if they approached us in most circumstances. They approach us for money in the trains in India, clapping their hands, as is their custom. We just don't look at them. Not a lot of job opportunities and educational opportunities for them. They are mostly childless. Yes, they have a heart. They do deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. A few kind words would make their day. And helping them, especially the ones who are having a bad life because of who they are is our call as Christians.

Mark 2:17

On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

 

[GracefulLilly]

it isn't a gray area; it's rebellion against the Most High. this is what people are like before God saves them.

Well I love my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He died not only for me but for anyone who believes and has faith in Him. We have got to remember that we are saved not because of anything that we have done but because of what Christ has done for us.

We have also got to remember that all our good deeds are like filthy rags to Christ. So no good deeds can be good enough. Nor can any bad deeds be beyond God's grace and love.

We must believe in the free gift of salvation that Jesus Christ has offered anyone who believes and accepts him into their life. It's free not because of what we have done, but because of what Christ has done for us. Jesus paid it all once and for all.

I want to be real for a moment and say that yes I'm a transgender Christian woman. I say this not just because I desire to be open and honest with my fellow brothers and sisters of faith but also because I believe that Christ love and compassion is even big enough for transgender individuals who also have faith in Him.

May we all strive to lift each other up in the faith as one big family.

May God bless you all.

- Lilly

 

[Cameron143]

Well I love my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He died not only for me but for anyone who believes and has faith in Him. We have got to remember that we are saved not because of anything that we have done but because of what Christ has done for us.

We have also got to remember that all our good deeds are like filthy rags to Christ. So no good deeds can be good enough. Nor can any bad deeds be beyond God's grace and love.

We must believe in the free gift of salvation that Jesus Christ has offered anyone who believes and accepts him into their life. It's free not because of what we have done, but because of what Christ has done for us. Jesus paid it all once and for all.

I want to be real for a moment and say that yes I'm a transgender Christian woman. I say this not just because I desire to be open and honest with my fellow brothers and sisters of faith but also because I believe that Christ love and compassion is even big enough for transgender individuals who also have faith in Him.

May we all strive to lift each other up in the faith as one big family.

May God bless you all.

- Lilly

Do you believe you are being honest?

I'm not trying to be hurtful to you here, but the truth is that you are a male. That's how God made you. To identify as something other than a male is to identify other than as God has created you. Just something to consider.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Well I love my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He died not only for me but for anyone who believes and has faith in Him. We have got to remember that we are saved not because of anything that we have done but because of what Christ has done for us.

We have also got to remember that all our good deeds are like filthy rags to Christ. So no good deeds can be good enough. Nor can any bad deeds be beyond God's grace and love.

We must believe in the free gift of salvation that Jesus Christ has offered anyone who believes and accepts him into their life. It's free not because of what we have done, but because of what Christ has done for us. Jesus paid it all once and for all.

I want to be real for a moment and say that yes I'm a transgender Christian woman. I say this not just because I desire to be open and honest with my fellow brothers and sisters of faith but also because I believe that Christ love and compassion is even big enough for transgender individuals who also have faith in Him.

May we all strive to lift each other up in the faith as one big family.

May God bless you all.

- Lilly

Just curious what you mean by accepts Him into your life? I've heard a lot of people say that and don't really know what that means.

 

[GracefulLilly]

Do you believe you are being honest?

I'm not trying to be hurtful to you here, but the truth is that you are a male. That's how God made you. To identify as something other than a male is to identify other than as God has created you. Just something to consider.

This is all about semantics. I get where it can be confusing for those that are less familiar with transgender individuals. Yes I was born male. That's my birth sex. However my gender identity (how I identity) is female.

Transgender individuals identify different from there birth sex due to gender dysphoria which is a the distress one feels between their birth sex and gender identity. It's just a misalignment.

So I transitioned because I have always felt female. I get where it can be a bit confusing if you are less familiar with the subject. Like I said I have to have Grace for others because Christ has grace for me.

I hope that clarifies some things. If not just let me know. 😊

 

[GracefulLilly]

Just curious what you mean by accepts Him into your life? I've heard a lot of people say that and don't really know what that means.

Just what anybody else means when they say they have accepted Christ into their life. When I was about 7 years old my dad told me the gospel story and also explained my options. He said that if I have faith and trust in Jesus and accept him into my life then I can be born again. If I don't and reject Him then I would spend eternity in hell.

Well I didn't want to go to hell so I expected the Lord into my life right there and then. Years later I got baptized in an Evangelical Free Church. I got baptized because I desired to follow Jesus and do what I was being called to do. It also was a great way to demonstrate my own salvation.

My faith in the Lord Jesus Christ has been the one constant in my life. I will never let that go. How could I? Jesus paid the price by dying on the cross not only for my transgressions but for all that put their faith and trust in Him.

It's not because of what I have done or will do but because of what Christ has done. Jesus paid it all once and for all. All we need to do is accept him into our life.

Amen and amen.

 

[Fortunate]

This is all about semantics. I get where it can be confusing for those that are less familiar with transgender individuals. Yes I was born male. That's my birth sex. However my gender identity (how I identity) is female.

Transgender individuals identify different from there birth sex due to gender dysphoria which is a the distress one feels between their birth sex and gender identity. It's just a misalignment.

So I transitioned because I have always felt female. I get where it can be a bit confusing if you are less familiar with the subject. Like I said I have to have Grace for others because Christ has grace for me.

I hope that clarifies some things. If not just let me know. 😊

Good morning brother. Greetings in the name of the Lord.

Honestly this doesn't make sense at all.

I have always felt like I was Queen Elizabeth, I sometimes dress like her try to talk like her etc but all of that didn't make me Queen Elizabeth. Same way no matter how much you transition you are till a man, a male made after God's image.

No body is perfect we are all sinners, I really pray God gives you more understanding of Christianity and bring you more closer to him. Firstly by lovely yourself the way he made you.

 

[Fortunate]

Just what anybody else means when they say they have accepted Christ into their life. When I was about 7 years old my dad told me the gospel story and also explained my options. He said that if I have faith and trust in Jesus and accept him into my life then I can be born again. If I don't and reject Him then I would spend eternity in hell.

Well I didn't want to go to hell so I expected the Lord into my life right there and then. Years later I got baptized in an Evangelical Free Church. I got baptized because I desired to follow Jesus and do what I was being called to do. It also was a great way to demonstrate my own salvation.

My faith in the Lord Jesus Christ has been the one constant in my life. I will never let that go. How could I? Jesus paid the price by dying on the cross not only for my transgressions but for all that put their faith and trust in Him.

It's not because of what I have done or will do but because of what Christ has done. Jesus paid it all once and for all. All we need to do is accept him into our life.

Amen and amen.

Now this is where it all makes sense. You accepted Christ as a child. The Bible says "when I was a child I behave as a child" I think you still have your child thinking of what Christianity is all about.

Try having a personal relationship with Christ. Christianity is beyond religion, is a relationship.

G
May God help us all Amen 🙏

 

[GracefulLilly]

Good morning brother. Greetings in the name of the Lord.

Honestly this doesn't make sense at all.

I have always felt like I was Queen Elizabeth, I sometimes dress like her try to talk like her etc but all of that didn't make me Queen Elizabeth. Same way no matter how much you transition you are till a man, a male made after God's image.

No body is perfect we are all sinners, I really pray God gives you more understanding of Christianity and bring you more closer to him. Firstly by lovely yourself the way he made you.

First of I get the confusion however you can't compare wanting to be Queen Elizabeth with being transgender. They are two very completely different things. One is just wanting to be somebody else. The other is based upon gender dysphoria. Which is a Mitch match between one's gender identity in one's birth sex.

To me personally trying to live my life as a male has brought me great discomfort and distress. It just never felt right for me. On top of that I have always felt more comfortable with anything and everything feminine. For example I have always felt more comfortable hanging around females then males. On top of that I have felt a strong desire to present in a more traditional feminine manner.

I get where this can be confusing if one is not used to talking to someone who is transgender. I don't blame you at all. Anything can be confusing at times. Especially for less familiar with that topic.

Well I hope this helps. God bless.

 

[GracefulLilly]

First of I get the confusion however you can't compare wanting to be Queen Elizabeth with being transgender. They are two very completely different things. One is just wanting to be somebody else. The other is based upon gender dysphoria. Which is a Mitch match between one's gender identity in one's birth sex.

To me personally trying to live my life as a male has brought me great discomfort and distress. It just never felt right for me. On top of that I have

First of I get the confusion however you can't compare wanting to be Queen Elizabeth with being transgender. They are two very completely different things. One is just wanting to be somebody else. The other is based upon gender dysphoria. Which is a Mitch match between one's gender identity in one's birth sex.

To me personally trying to live my life as a male has brought me great discomfort and distress. It just never felt right for me. On top of that I have always felt more comfortable with anything and everything feminine. For example I have always felt more comfortable hanging around females then males. On top of that I have felt a strong desire to present in a more traditional feminine manner.

I get where this can be confusing if one is not used to talking to someone who is transgender. I don't blame you at all. Anything can be confusing at times. Especially for less familiar with that topic.

Well I hope this helps. God bless.

always felt more comfortable with anything and everything feminine. For example I have always felt more comfortable hanging around females then males. On top of that I have felt a strong desire to present in a more traditional feminine manner.

I get where this can be confusing if one is not used to talking to someone who is transgender. I don't blame you at all. Anything can be confusing at times. Especially for less familiar with that topic.

Well I hope this helps. God bless.

Now this is where it all makes sense. You accepted Christ as a child. The Bible says "when I was a child I behave as a child" I think you still have your child thinking of what Christianity is all about.

Try having a personal relationship with Christ. Christianity is beyond religion, is a relationship.

G
May God help us all Amen 🙏

I will admit that while I do have a relationship with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ it can always be better. I'm not perfect but who is a part from Christ? One thing I can say for sure is I will never let go of Christ. How can I. His love is pure and holy. He has done nothing but love me and sacrificed his only begotten son for all that put their faith and trust in Him.

Actually one of the reasons I joined this form was to create relationships with fellow believers in Christ. I missed that fellowship.

I find it difficult to attend a local church right now due to the fact that I work every weekend. It would be extremely challenging to give that up right now due to the fact that I get weekend differential of $2.00 per hour more on weekends.

So I'm craving fellowship.

 

[timemeddler]

To me personally trying to live my life as a male has brought me great discomfort and distress. It just never felt right for me. On top of that I have always felt more comfortable with anything and everything feminine. For example I have always felt more comfortable hanging around females then males. On top of that I have felt a strong desire to present in a more traditional feminine manner.

That requires a gender change?

 

[Subhumanoidal]

I will admit that while I do have a relationship with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ it can always be better. I'm not perfect but who is a part from Christ? One thing I can say for sure is I will never let go of Christ. How can I. His love is pure and holy. He has done nothing but love me and sacrificed his only begotten son for all that put their faith and trust in Him.

Actually one of the reasons I joined this form was to create relationships with fellow believers in Christ. I missed that fellowship.

I find it difficult to attend a local church right now due to the fact that I work every weekend. It would be extremely challenging to give that up right now due to the fact that I get weekend differential of $2.00 per hour more on weekends.

So I'm craving fellowship.

I'm not here to attack or criticize, but I do have some remarks.

For one I think it's naive on your part to show up here expecting to find acceptance of the choices you've made regarding gender. Christianity, in general, has a reputation for standing against the whole lgbtq+ movement. Declaring yourself as a Christian that is embracing this lifestyle doesn't help. If anything you run a bigger risk of rejection for trying to mix the two.

Next, coming to this site promoting transgenderism is a sure way to get banned quickly.

Also, coming here and telling people who disagree with you that they are just ignorant of the facts (not your wording, but that's the basic idea) is silly. This topic has been Everywhere for Years now. People aren't disagreeing with you because they don't understand, they're disagreeing because of what the bible says.
Deuteronomy 21:1 “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord", for example.
Wokeism won't survive on this site.

Personally I have no issue with your being on this site, long as you're open about your gender issues (which you have been), but this site is rough on people, often times. And when people come defending or promoting beliefs that counter biblical teachings it can be worse. So don't expect to have an easy time here.

I'm not here to debate gender, plenty of others here will do that. I'm just giving an honest assessment of what to expect on here, and a bit of clarity on how you're also coming across.
No ill will intended towards you.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Just what anybody else means when they say they have accepted Christ into their life. When I was about 7 years old my dad told me the gospel story and also explained my options. He said that if I have faith and trust in Jesus and accept him into my life then I can be born again. If I don't and reject Him then I would spend eternity in hell.

Well I didn't want to go to hell so I expected the Lord into my life right there and then. Years later I got baptized in an Evangelical Free Church. I got baptized because I desired to follow Jesus and do what I was being called to do. It also was a great way to demonstrate my own salvation.

My faith in the Lord Jesus Christ has been the one constant in my life. I will never let that go. How could I? Jesus paid the price by dying on the cross not only for my transgressions but for all that put their faith and trust in Him.

It's not because of what I have done or will do but because of what Christ has done. Jesus paid it all once and for all. All we need to do is accept him into our life.

Amen and amen.

Reading your last two paragraphs, it sounds like you are equating faith with receiving / accepting Him into your life. I just want to be sure I understand?

Do you believe that you can lose your salvation GL?

Do you believe in the full Godhood of Jesus and that he's altogether a man as well?

 

[timemeddler]

Deuteronomy 21:1 “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord", for example.
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I personally wouldn't apply that particular verse on account of the ethopian eunich, on the other hand deuteronomy 22:5 in this case I think we can apply as it was intended(understand I find a lot of people using that verse like to abuse it), fundamentally presenting oneself as the opposite gender.
Or the more basic ...created them male and female.