For Calvinists: Do you skip evangelizing because God chooses?

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For Calvinists: Do you skip evangelizing because God chooses?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • No.

    Votes: 21 91.3%
  • Total voters
    23
trofimus said:
Nobody talks about Calvin here. So your post is quite irrelevant.

Also, Calvin was not a Catholic. What an absurd idea.
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History disagrees with you.

Calvin was born into a Catholic family and baptized and confirmed Catholic. At 12 he was employed as a clerk to a catholic Bishop. His Father wanted all 3 of his Sons, including John, to join the priesthood. Calvin left the Catholic Church in 1530.
 
1ofthem said:
I don't think English is the problem here...

Just seems like some folks need to open up their eyes...and quit getting hung up on one or two words...Just Read the whole Bible in context because it don't contradict its self...Just saying...

But it's nice to know that you are so concerned about learning English..:)
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And where do you see any contradiction in what we call "calvinism"?
 
He_reigns said:
History disagrees with you.

Calvin was born into a Catholic family and baptized and confirmed Catholic. At 12 he was employed as a clerk to a catholic Bishop. His Father wanted all 3 of his Sons, including John, to join the priesthood. Calvin left the Catholic Church in 1530.
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So because I was a charismatic for lets say 10 years and then left, I will be still labeled as Charismatic, even though I am strongly against it in almost every discussion? I see no logic in this.
 
trofimus said:
And where do you see any contradiction in what we call "calvinism"?
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The fact that babies are all saved and do not go to hell if they are not elect. If you believe in double predestination and that all men are slaves to sin and Jesus did not die for all men, then babies and kids are not exempt and by your own beliefs go to hell if they are not elect.
 
He_reigns said:
The fact that babies are all saved and do not go to hell if they are not elect. If you believe in double predestination and that all men are slaves to sin and Jesus did not die for all men, then babies and kids are not exempt and by your own beliefs go to hell if they are not elect.
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The bible is not explicitly clear about babies. Ppl use 2 Samuel 12 to support the notion that babies go to heaven automatically.

If that's the case, wouldn't parents be rolling the dice by allowing them to come to the 'age of accountability' and then dying and going to hell?
 
trofimus said:
So because I was a charismatic for lets say 10 years and then left, I will be still labeled as Charismatic, even though I am strongly against it in almost every discussion? I see no logic in this.
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Originally Posted by trofimus
Nobody talks about Calvin here. So your post is quite irrelevant.

Also, Calvin was not a Catholic. What an absurd idea
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You said he was not a Catholic, you would be wrong, He was catholic and then left. When he left Catholicism,you were then correct, he was no longer a Catholic at that point. Your statement implies he never was and if I read it wrong, my fault.
 
He_reigns said:
The fact that babies are all saved and do not go to hell if they are not elect. If you believe in double predestination and that all men are slaves to sin and Jesus did not die for all men, then babies and kids are not exempt and by your own beliefs go to hell if they are not elect.
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First, the salvation of children is based on our opinions only, we have no information about this issue. So it is not any part of calvinism' creeds.

Second, you used a wrong logic. If all babies are saved, then all babies were predestined to be saved and are therefore elect. I am not sure how you can think otherwise, like if it was possible for God to loose control.
 
It was quite clear to me trofimus was speaking of Calvin's ministry concerning him not being Catholic.
 
Muzungu256 said:
not only do u think u can see what i think and feel through the screen now u are also making wild and weird claims....... what????? bwahahahaha.

its fine all is forgiven no hard feelings. im sorry too if i hurt ur feelings.

but... calvin a catholic though?????? what is the reformation?????

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you don't hurt my feelings, do you think you know my feelings throug the screen. As I mentioned you don't know me.

but it does show how disrespectful you are to others,,, posting a picture of someone laughing shows how mature you are, I don't think God means anything to you. It's just all cleshay to you and you only want to cause malice.
 
preacher4truth said:
It was quite clear to me trofimus was speaking of Calvin's ministry concerning him not being Catholic.
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Well, it may not be clear to others. I was not attacking trofimus, I was seeking clarification.

Calvin did not die a Catholic, but he was born one and lived as one until 1530, then he broke with the church, ceasing to be a Catholic.
 
trofimus said:
First, the salvation of children is based on our opinions only, we have no information about this issue. So it is not any part of calvinism' creeds.

Second, you used a wrong logic. If all babies are saved, then all babies were predestined to be saved and are therefore elect. I am not sure how you can think otherwise, like if it was possible for God to loose control.
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I think you helped me enough on this, thank you.
 
IamWhoIam said:
you don't hurt my feelings, do you think you know my feelings throug the screen. As I mentioned you don't know me.

but it does show how disrespectful you are to others,,, posting a picture of someone laughing shows how mature you are, I don't think God means anything to you. It's just all cleshay to you and you only want to cause malice.
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This guy is filled with malice and slander. And, you seem really familiar all of a sudden.
 
He_reigns said:
Well, it may not be clear to others. I was not attacking trofimus, I was seeking clarification.

Calvin did not die a Catholic, but he was born one and lived as one until 1530, then he broke with the church, ceasing to be a Catholic.
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I do not think Calvin was ever too much into beign a catholic. It was more about his parents, I would say. And he left that way quite early (in his twenties).

The most "catholic" event in his life was that he worked as a clerk for a bishop when he was 12. Surely under the influence of parents.

But whatever, Calvin is not as important to calvinism as the name would suggest. :) "Calvinism" was there before Calvin.
 
SovereignGrace said:
The bible is not explicitly clear about babies. Ppl use 2 Samuel 12 to support the notion that babies go to heaven automatically.

If that's the case, wouldn't parents be rolling the dice by allowing them to come to the 'age of accountability' and then dying and going to hell?
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Please provide scripture to support the notion all babies go to hell, who are not saved , then part of the elect.
 
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