FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS...MORE WILL BE GIVEN.. what does this mean?????

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stonesoffire said:
I don't see where JP was speaking about prosperity financially, but in the Word of God.

My opinion of the scripture there, is when we are walking in the revelation of the Word that we have, then more revelation is given.

It would be affecting all of our life. For that is the definition of prosperity biblically. Can be money too though. But, I value the Word, the Spirit of the Word worth more...
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You are correct Stonesoffire. It's not always about money as some always think here and get off on wacky rabbit trails. It's about walking in the faith we have been given and attaining the promises each day in our lives. For good and not evil. Am headed out on this cold but pretty day. Have a lovely blessed day sissy!

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Ohhhhhhhhhhh! That's what NAR is. (I do not know 75% of the words folks use to describe belief systems on this site. lol)
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LOL...well it says so right on the gotquestions site

but it's not biblical...it's humanistic socialism and a world system...which the Bible speaks AGAINST (you're no dummy...you tell me!)

again, from the site you linked to:

Here are the seven mountains, according to the seven mountain mandate:
1) Education
2) Religion
3) Family
4) Business
5) Government/Military
6) Arts/Entertainment
7) Media

These seven sectors of society are thought to mold the way everyone thinks and behaves. So, to tackle societal change, these seven “mountains” must be transformed. The mountains are also referred to as “pillars,” “shapers,” “molders,” and “spheres.” Those who follow the seven mountain mandate speak of “occupying” the mountains, “invading” the culture, and “transforming” society.

The seven mountain mandate has its roots in dominion theology, which started in the early 1970s with a goal of “taking dominion” of the earth, twisting Genesis 1:28 to include a mandate for Christians to control civil affairs and all other aspects of society. The New Apostolic Reformation, with its self-appointed prophets and apostles, has also influenced the seven mountain movement, lending dreams and visions and other extra-biblical revelations to the mandate.
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NAR...New Apostolic Reformation

hydra:

nine headed serpent of Greek mythology...I guess the other 2 heads are the fake apostles and prophets

description fits better than I thought. huh.
 
joaniemarie said:
You are correct Stonesoffire. It's not always about money as some always think here and get off on wacky rabbit trails. It's about walking in the faith we have been given and attaining the promises each day in our lives. For good and not evil. Am headed out on this cold but pretty day. Have a lovely blessed day sissy!

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it has never been about the money

you are also wrong on that...

it has always been about the false teaching of the truth of the Bible

the money part is just a bonus

but it has always been about the false teachings and the copy/pastes from false teachers

you might as well say have a blessed and lovely imagination :rolleyes:
 
eternally-gratefull said:
do you have a link to the actual mandate, and not someone view. I would rather read what is written then make my judgment on what it is..
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there is no actual NAR mandate

they fly from one revelation to another and consider the Bible real handy, but now believe new revelation is the new world order

you cannot pick one explanation as the truth...don't take my word for it...this is something that takes time and study to really get a grip on it

the so called mandate is not all there is...far from it

they also believe they will usher in a new age...dominionism...they believe they are creating a world that Jesus will step into and that they have to do it, to get Jesus down here...again...brief synopsis...it's complicated

which is why I call it a hydra
 
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7seasrekeyed said:
it is

but Prince is the origin of the word hypergrace...if not, pretty close so half a dozen one and 6 of the other
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thats true. But that was not my point sis,

But a group of people spent over a year trying to refuter hypergrace and the gospel bieng taught, and failed miserably (many of them are no longer hear most likely because of it) because every time they tried, they said things which were not true, and kept continuing on a false pretense, which made them look bad.

As I said a year ago. If people want to refute WOF and what JP and others say about it, because they think it is dangerous to the church, I will be behind you 100%, but if people are going to try to refute a thing termed hypergace, which they can not do then what is the use, did it help their cause trying to attack a part of a doctrine they could not refute It made them look bad, not the teacher they were tryign to appose

Atacking hypergrace is not helpful. Attack the actual doctrine which is messed up.
 
actually EG, if you go to the gotquestions link provided by Lynn, there are links from that article that will be helpful in understanding

I've been reading and studying up on this thing for months now

it's a horror show quite frankly...but like I said...don't take my word for it...I think those who believe they should expose lies and heresies (not what people call a heresy hunter because that can really go to far) might do well to learn about NAR because it is popping up all over and part of their agenda to make that happen
 
7seasrekeyed said:
there is no actual NAR mandate

they fly from one revelation to another and consider the Bible real handy, but now believe new revelation is the new world order

you cannot pick one explanation as the truth...don't take my word for it...this is something that takes time and study to really get a grip on it

the so called mandate is not all there is...far from it

they also believe they will usher in a new age...dominionism...they believe they are creating a world that Jesus will step into and that they have to do it, to get Jesus down here...again...brief synopsis...it's complicated

which is why I call it a hydra
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Jesus told us what will get him to return. He returns because mankind is in the proicess of wiping all life off the earth, and for the sake of the elect, he puts an end to the great war because if he did not, nio flesh would survive (as jesus put it)

Anyone who teaches we can make this world so jesus will treturn (I have heard a few groups teach these things in differenty ways.) they need to read the word..
 
eternally-gratefull said:
thats true. But that was not my point sis,

But a group of people spent over a year trying to refuter hypergrace and the gospel bieng taught, and failed miserably (many of them are no longer hear most likely because of it) because every time they tried, they said things which were not true, and kept continuing on a false pretense, which made them look bad.

As I said a year ago. If people want to refute WOF and what JP and others say about it, because they think it is dangerous to the church, I will be behind you 100%, but if people are going to try to refute a thing termed hypergace, which they can not do then what is the use, did it help their cause trying to attack a part of a doctrine they could not refute It made them look bad, not the teacher they were tryign to appose

Atacking hypergrace is not helpful. Attack the actual doctrine which is messed up.
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I understand what you are saying

I have not attacked so called hypergrace...I don't believe in hypergrace anyway...I believe simply in the grace of God and the surrounding flak are issues that are brought up and attached to grace and people argue from POV's that have nothing to do with the grace of God...which is why I do not get involved

I know about the hypergrace wars...the old threads here are full of them...was just reading an old one yesterday in fact, under my old name of sevenseas...so I get it
 
7seasrekeyed said:
actually EG, if you go to the gotquestions link provided by Lynn, there are links from that article that will be helpful in understanding

I've been reading and studying up on this thing for months now

it's a horror show quite frankly...but like I said...don't take my word for it...I think those who believe they should expose lies and heresies (not what people call a heresy hunter because that can really go to far) might do well to learn about NAR because it is popping up all over and part of their agenda to make that happen
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I will, and thanks,. I think we all need to study and see what is being said

we should. Not try to expose a group of people (if thats what we are tryinb to do) if we do not know what they are and what they stand for. The words test each spirit comes to mind..
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Jesus told us what will get him to return. He returns because mankind is in the proicess of wiping all life off the earth, and for the sake of the elect, he puts an end to the great war because if he did not, nio flesh would survive (as jesus put it)

Anyone who teaches we can make this world so jesus will treturn (I have heard a few groups teach these things in differenty ways.) they need to read the word..
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you are preaching to the choir
 
7seasrekeyed said:
I understand what you are saying

I have not attacked so called hypergrace...I don't believe in hypergrace anyway...I believe simply in the grace of God and the surrounding flak are issues that are brought up and attached to grace and people argue from POV's that have nothing to do with the grace of God...which is why I do not get involved

I know about the hypergrace wars...the old threads here are full of them...was just reading an old one yesterday in fact, under my old name of sevenseas...so I get it
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Those were some sad days, a black eye on CC.. I even said many things I can not believe I said, and am so sorry I Said them, I just pray we do not go there again..
 
eternally-gratefull said:
I will, and thanks,. I think we all need to study and see what is being said

we should. Not try to expose a group of people (if thats what we are tryinb to do) if we do not know what they are and what they stand for. The words test each spirit comes to mind..
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I have gone to the people themselves...their sites and videos...not second hand news...but sourced properly...I suggest serious people do that if they believe the seriousness of these issues

I have had rumors spread about myself, so I take care not to do to others what I would not done to me

anyway...not my place to convince someone when all the info they need for themselves is out there :)
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Those were some sad days, a black eye on CC.. I even said many things I can not believe I said, and am so sorry I Said them, I just pray we do not go there again..
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I do miss some of the people who were tossed out...not everyone...but some

people got so hot under the collar
 
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