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eternally-gratefull
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i remember the days i thought people were crazy for blaming the american government for 9/11
conspiracy theories get old don't they??
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eternally-gratefull
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I believe the Truth is often distorted with wild stories to throw people of the scent.
lol, satan has been doing this for 6000 years.. he is the master of it.. and we still fall for his tricks!
True.lol, satan has been doing this for 6000 years.. he is the master of it.. and we still fall for his tricks!
John 8
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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Therapon
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why read the book when I can read the bible?
the seven heaqds are the final form of the roman empire.. Read daniel..
I've been reading Daniel 20 years longer than you have been alive.
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peterT
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One more time: Revelation is chiasmic, the whole book is composed of two ABC=CBA chiasms so its prophecies are 12 parallel pictures of the Christian era. This paper explains the concept: http://www.fishhouseministries.com/p...ds_Chiasms.pdf.
You can Blar Blar Blar until the end of time and quote Revelation in red until you're blue in the face, but you will continue to make interpretive errors because you do not understand the Hebrew poetic form in which Revelation was written. I have been trying my best to help you learn that structure, but you continue pontificating without that knowledge. You cannot come to truth by ignoring the basic hermeneutic rules of interpretation understood by every theologian on the planet.
Some Christians quote scripture to tell the story they want to tell.
But you reach into your bag of tricks and give a link to try to explain the concept of your story
All the Hebrew poetic you know hasn’t done your interpretation of the Bible any good.
Acts 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
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peterT
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We give thousands of books away, we are not a business but a ministry so the Lord provides for us. Amazon may sell a couple of hundred books a year, but that hardly makes them a profit center.
Nevertheless You are making merchandise of the church with your book of error
There will be a resurrection of the saints but not before the tribulation period for the Bible says that the saints will rise to meet Jesus in the air and at the battle of armageddon the Bible says that God comes back with His saints and fights the world and the people that God spared will have to go to Jerusalem to worship God.
The Bible says let no man deceive you about the saints being gathered unto Christ for it will not happen until there is a falling away of man first and the man of sin steps in to the temple of God claiming to be God,and the beast makes war against the saints and the world worships the beast who will claim t be above all their religions and God which we know never happened in the past.
The antichrist has to appear first and deceive all those who do not love God and to make them take the mark of the beast before God will take His children home,and the reason is God will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him.As long as the world can repent of their sins God will not take His people home.When they take the mark of the beast the world does not have the chance to repent of their sins and be saved and God will take His children home.
The world will make war against the saints and the Bible says the saints are given in to hand of the antichrist ,the little horn,for three and one half years,which God is allowing him to rule for that long,and after then the saints will go home.
Then the wrath of God will pour out on the earth leading to the battle of armageddon which the saints will come back to earth with God and God fights the world(Zechariah chapter 14).
The Bible says let no man deceive you about the saints being gathered unto Christ for it will not happen until there is a falling away of man first and the man of sin steps in to the temple of God claiming to be God,and the beast makes war against the saints and the world worships the beast who will claim t be above all their religions and God which we know never happened in the past.
The antichrist has to appear first and deceive all those who do not love God and to make them take the mark of the beast before God will take His children home,and the reason is God will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him.As long as the world can repent of their sins God will not take His people home.When they take the mark of the beast the world does not have the chance to repent of their sins and be saved and God will take His children home.
The world will make war against the saints and the Bible says the saints are given in to hand of the antichrist ,the little horn,for three and one half years,which God is allowing him to rule for that long,and after then the saints will go home.
Then the wrath of God will pour out on the earth leading to the battle of armageddon which the saints will come back to earth with God and God fights the world(Zechariah chapter 14).
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eternally-gratefull
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I've been reading Daniel 20 years longer than you have been alive.
the roman church has been reading it for 2000 years and cant get it right.. that means nothing..
The jews had the OT for 400 years before Christ came, and still got it wrong.
that means nothing.
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Therapon
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the roman church has been reading it for 2000 years and cant get it right.. that means nothing..
The jews had the OT for 400 years before Christ came, and still got it wrong.
that means nothing.
Yeah, you're right, I shouldn't have said that, what I should have said is, "I was studying Daniel and Revelation at Columbia Bible College 20 years before you were born." There I learned the same end-time doctrine you believe in and continued doing so until I somehow noticed that all those blue-sky fables couldn't be supported by history or the Bible. So go in peace, I won't try to change your mind.
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Therapon
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Nevertheless You are making merchandise of the church with your book of error
So you are absolutely sure your eschatology is 100% correct? I'm impressed, LOL. I've been around a bit in my 85 years and taught Bible prophecy in churches of most major denominations, but in none of them did I ever see the doctrinal arrogance so prevalent on this forum. I genuflect in your presence, bwana.
Yeah, you're right, I shouldn't have said that, what I should have said is, "I was studying Daniel and Revelation at Columbia Bible College 20 years before you were born." There I learned the same end-time doctrine you believe in and continued doing so until I somehow noticed that all those blue-sky fables couldn't be supported by history or the Bible. So go in peace, I won't try to change your mind.
Ellis, please share with us what you learnt and why you rejected and then what happened.
i don't think you wrote those books for profit but in belief you were doing a service.
When we first met last year, i did note much was available for free through your site it did not come across as a "prosperity" movement.
What if 1948 was part of the Rebellious Jews plan to take back what they believe they have a right to?
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eternally-gratefull
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Yeah, you're right, I shouldn't have said that, what I should have said is, "I was studying Daniel and Revelation at Columbia Bible College 20 years before you were born." There I learned the same end-time doctrine you believe in and continued doing so until I somehow noticed that all those blue-sky fables couldn't be supported by history or the Bible. So go in peace, I won't try to change your mind.
Thats interesting. I learned all the fables you believe in, And through study of the word realised they were not lining up with what God said, and changed my belief system to fit the word. Not the doctrines I learned from men.
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eternally-gratefull
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What if 1948 was part of the Rebellious Jews plan to take back what they believe they have a right to?
The jews had nothing to do with it. They were given their land. If they took it by force. I might see where your coming from, but they did not.
The jews had nothing to do with it. They were given their land. If they took it by force. I might see where your coming from, but they did not.
Who managed to secure the deal
Why?
How?
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eternally-gratefull
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Who managed to secure the deal
Well I know this. The jews tried many times to separate it into land area which would give others their own land. But it was the others who would not agree.. This has happened over and over again since the early 20's
Why? I guess the horrors they suffered at the hand of Hitler made people feel sorry for them? is it not amazing God uses evil to bring about his will??
and I would ask. why not?