Fresh take on Job

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I see some problems with this video. Is the Septuagint a viable instrument to interpret scripture beyond what is in the accepted canon?

What is considered the Septuagint is the Greek Old Testament extracted from Codex Vaticanus 1209. As early as 1580 it was considered unreliable due to new letters replacing the old letters when it was reinked. When was the addendum added at the end of Job, and by whom? The editors of NETS said they bowed to the weight of tradition in keeping the term Septuagint. They noted that there was to much diversity in the manuscripts to be able to say what was originally in the original Septuagint.

The fellow in the video quoted Job 42:16, and said Job lived 140 years after, but the Codex Vaticanus says 170 years.

The fellow in the video also said Job believe God to be just, but that is a false statement. Job had asked for a man like himself to be his judge, and God gave him Elihu. Job had asked for a man like himself because he didn't trust God to be fair. Job said God would laugh at the trial of the innocent.

Another wrong thing that fellow said was that Israel was innocent, implying they didn't deserve chastisement.

Another item is the Melchizedek claim. The only one that had neither father, nor mother, nor beginning, nor end is God.
 
I see some problems with this video. Is the Septuagint a viable instrument to interpret scripture beyond what is in the accepted canon?

What is considered the Septuagint is the Greek Old Testament extracted from Codex Vaticanus 1209. As early as 1580 it was considered unreliable due to new letters replacing the old letters when it was reinked. When was the addendum added at the end of Job, and by whom? The editors of NETS said they bowed to the weight of tradition in keeping the term Septuagint. They noted that there was to much diversity in the manuscripts to be able to say what was originally in the original Septuagint.

The fellow in the video quoted Job 42:16, and said Job lived 140 years after, but the Codex Vaticanus says 170 years.

The fellow in the video also said Job believe God to be just, but that is a false statement. Job had asked for a man like himself to be his judge, and God gave him Elihu. Job had asked for a man like himself because he didn't trust God to be fair. Job said God would laugh at the trial of the innocent.

Another wrong thing that fellow said was that Israel was innocent, implying they didn't deserve chastisement.

Another item is the Melchizedek claim. The only one that had neither father, nor mother, nor beginning, nor end is God.
The Melchizidek claim is based on Hebrews 7:1-3

"This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, and Abraham apportioned to him a tenth of everything. First, his name means “king of righteousness.” Then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.” Without father or mother or genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God, he remains a priest for all time."

You are wrong about the Septuagint. It was written around 300 BC. New testament writers quoted the Septuagint from time to time. Obviously they considered it reliable enough. I don't know where you get your information from.

I can find no information about re-inking. That makes no sense to me. How many copies of the Septuagint were there?
 
The Melchizidek claim is based on Hebrews 7:1-3

"This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, and Abraham apportioned to him a tenth of everything. First, his name means “king of righteousness.” Then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.” Without father or mother or genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God, he remains a priest for all time."

You are wrong about the Septuagint. It was written around 300 BC. New testament writers quoted the Septuagint from time to time. Obviously they considered it reliable enough. I don't know where you get your information from.

I can find no information about re-inking. That makes no sense to me. How many copies of the Septuagint were there?

Have you not asked yourself, who is the King of Peace(Salem), and who is the King of Righteousness? It can only be God, and not man.

Have you not asked, what manuscripts exist today that contain the Septuagint? Should we trust Wikipedia for all our information?

Albert Pietersma & Benjamin G. Wright

Editors

Oxford university Press

Excerpt from "TO THE READER OF NETS"​

"Not surprisingly then, though the various parts of The Translation of the Seventy have many features in common, it is also true that, as modern scholarship has increasingly shown, there is wide-ranging diversity and heterogeneity within the collection, to the point that some scholars now question the continued use of the term Septuagint. ----Nets has bowed to the weight of tradition and has thus continued the use of the term Septuagint."

What Wikipedia doesn't tell you is that what they call the Septuagint comes from one manuscript. That manuscript is called Codex Vaticanus 1209. The number 1209 is the shelf number where this manuscript has resided since the fifteenth Century. The word Vaticanus is what all manuscripts owned by the Vatican are referred to. The shelf number identifies them.

The Codex Vaticanus 1209 has been reinked twice, and that is just a fact that is not denied by anyone. It has never been carbon dated. In the margin on page 1512 of the Codex Vaticanus 1209 a scribe wrote "Fool and knave, leave the old reading and do not change it!"

I have a book in my possession titled INTRODUCTORY LECTURES TO THE SACRED BOOKS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT, by John-David Michaelis, published in 1750. Within this book is an extract from Lucas Burgensis, a learned man who assisted in the publication of the Biblia Regia at Antwerp in 1580. The following is part of that Extract from SECTION XXI titled The Codex Vaticanus.

"The Vatican edition of the Septuagint is taken from this manuscript. It is greatly to be lamented that by length of time the end of the Epistle to the Hebrews, and the Pastoral Epistles, and the Revelation of St. John, have been lost. The other books as so decayed that it has been found necessary to draw fresh ink over the letters; but the manuscript in its present state has lost much of its credit by this, the persons employed in the work having sometimes not confined themselves to the old letters, but placed others in their room."
Here is another extract from the same article. -------

"Erasmus endeavors to depreciate it, by not admitting it to be above a hundred years old." (Erasmus statement was in the fifteenth Cenury. Erasmus is referring to the Codex Vaticanus 1209.)

The following is a forward to the NEW ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THE SEPTUAGINT titled "To the Readers of NETS" produced by Oxford University Press.