Fundamentalism and Particular Baptists
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each child of God is given a measure
rom 12:
12 I beseech[a] you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your]reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Serve God with Spiritual Gifts
3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; 8 he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.
each child of God is given a measure
rom 12:
12 I beseech[a] you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your]reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Serve God with Spiritual Gifts
3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; 8 he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.
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You see the problem here is that my teaching have taught me about humility. Everybody wants to be right, but no one or very few want to be humble.
What does this mean for me? This means that unless Christ tells me personally in a vision to say to the world "i am saved" then i can't say it even if i might know it. Why? Because judgment for this most important question is left to God not me.
Secondly, when you use the word 'saved' then this immediately opens a can of worms for me.
Since you treat salvation as a one-time event to receive a reward in the future, then what do i do with the rest of my life here and now?
Watch TV? Rob the neighbor? What do i do?
What does this mean for me? This means that unless Christ tells me personally in a vision to say to the world "i am saved" then i can't say it even if i might know it. Why? Because judgment for this most important question is left to God not me.
Secondly, when you use the word 'saved' then this immediately opens a can of worms for me.
Since you treat salvation as a one-time event to receive a reward in the future, then what do i do with the rest of my life here and now?
Watch TV? Rob the neighbor? What do i do?
No no, major your interpretation is one of the many interpretations of the Kingdom of God and Paradise and our place in it.
You see, you like to live in the future, and i like to live in the now. We are both happy with these choices based on (limited) free-will and we have found peace and hope.
Also, i don't make judgment calls about myself either about my eternal destination because i would go into judgment for billions of people and souls that live and have ever lived.
So, i am competently in the hands of God, at his mercy, thankful for His miracles to the world and to me and grateful that i got to know Christ here and now.
You are commanded to judge in the sense of discerning truth rightly (MT 7:5, JN 7:24, 2CR 13:5).
On what basis or for what reason do you believe/discern that you are saved or bound for Paradise?
Did God waste His breath/inspiration on you?! (2TM 3:14-17 & 4:1-4)
Both were definitely saved. In fact God consoled Aaron.
But it was a devastating object lesson for all Israel.
What was the lesson?
As usual, the Church today is totally ignorant of the underlying dynamics here.
The whole point is that God is NOT ALLOWING "slippage" in His salvation message.
This message encapsulated in the TYPES and SYMBOLS and RITUALS which are essentially a panorama of
many many ***mnemonics*** mean to be rigorously perpetuated.
[Exo 30:9 KJV]
Ye shall offer no strange incense thereon, nor burnt sacrifice, nor meat offering; neither shall ye pour drink offering thereon.
The incense formula was EXTREMELY SPECIFIC, purposefully so and stated as HOLY (set apart).
And the aroma was made INTENTIONALLY UNIQUE the intended message being......drumroll.......
That there is only ONE PLAN of salvation. One. And it is hyper specific.
Deviation is not to be tolerated.
But it was a devastating object lesson for all Israel.
What was the lesson?
As usual, the Church today is totally ignorant of the underlying dynamics here.
The whole point is that God is NOT ALLOWING "slippage" in His salvation message.
This message encapsulated in the TYPES and SYMBOLS and RITUALS which are essentially a panorama of
many many ***mnemonics*** mean to be rigorously perpetuated.
[Exo 30:9 KJV]
Ye shall offer no strange incense thereon, nor burnt sacrifice, nor meat offering; neither shall ye pour drink offering thereon.
The incense formula was EXTREMELY SPECIFIC, purposefully so and stated as HOLY (set apart).
And the aroma was made INTENTIONALLY UNIQUE the intended message being......drumroll.......
That there is only ONE PLAN of salvation. One. And it is hyper specific.
Deviation is not to be tolerated.
I was born and raised in the Church so God was as natural to me as the people around me. To this day I still think to myself my belief is very much child like because I never was an adult coming into faith where you will battle reasoning. We can talk ourselves out of anything through reasoning because Satan attacks the mental state of humanity. I do have to reason some issues but my faith quickly overshadows the doubt. It's why I have been fortunate to experience the things I have and heard those near me question how was that even possible. To which I say, faith in God.
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Given that post, would you conclude that this message coming from @ParticularWife is perhaps......
"STRANGE FIRE"?
Because it is pretty spooky man. Crazy train stuff.
"STRANGE FIRE"?
Because it is pretty spooky man. Crazy train stuff.
Have you ever noticed that interpretation falls eerily close to personal belief and personal belief falls eerily close to how one was raised by the Church they grew up in?
It's why I made a conscious effort to visit many Churches and doctrines to see because in them all theres manipulation techniques being applied.
It's why I made a conscious effort to visit many Churches and doctrines to see because in them all theres manipulation techniques being applied.
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