Future sins

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Genez said:
Not saying that.

The Christian man who had been a homosexual stated that he never felt normal heterosexual feelings until after regeneration.
He appeared on the John Ankerberg show with his wife.
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What do you do with the guy that got born again and has been living for years as a christian, other christians vouch for the guy that he is definitely a born again christian and then the guy decides he's gay, divorces his wife, and marries another man claiming it's not a sin because he is in a committed relationship

Do you consider a guy like this to still be a chrsitian in good standing with God?
This sort of thing is happening out there. How would you counsel a person that does this?
 
BeamUpScotty said:
What do you do with the guy that got born again and has been living for years as a christian, other christians vouch for the guy that he is definitely a born again christian and then the guy decides he's gay, divorces his wife, and marries another man claiming it's not a sin because he is in a committed relationship

Do you consider a guy like this to still be a chrsitian in good standing with God?
This sort of thing is happening out there. How would you counsel a person that does this?
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"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." 1 John 2:19
 
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OMC said:
"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." 1 John 2:19
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Yes they were not of us after they decided to turn away from the Lord to go be sin.
That's the "they went out" part.

Prior to their backsliding they were born again and would have gone to heaven had they died.
 
BeamUpScotty said:
Yes they were not of us after they decided to turn away from the Lord to go be sin.
That's the "they went out" part.

Prior to their backsliding they were born again and would have gone to heaven had they died.
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The verse implies they were "not of us", to begin with.
 
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OMC said:
The verse implies they were "not of us", to begin with.
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Amen! 1 John 2:19 - They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us. NEVER WERE.
 
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ScooterJackson said:
The reformed are taught that God made them a sinner putting sin in them when He formed them in the womb and as such they will never ever be able to stop sinning, and they are taught anybody those does stop sinning is trying to earn their salvation.
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The reformed do not teach this.
ScooterJackson said:
Yep, and they don't even know they have been ensnared by the devil.
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You should look into that log in your eye.
 
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NightTwister said:
The reformed do not teach this.

You should look into that log in your eye.
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Reformed theology does not teach that God made man sinners. Instead, God created humanity upright, and sin entered through the fall of Adam, leaving all people with a fallen nature that must be redeemed.
 
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BeamUpScotty said:
What do you do with the guy that got born again and has been living for years as a christian, other christians vouch for the guy that he is definitely a born again christian and then the guy decides he's gay, divorces his wife, and marries another man claiming it's not a sin because he is in a committed relationship

Do you consider a guy like this to still be a chrsitian in good standing with God?
This sort of thing is happening out there. How would you counsel a person that does this?
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If the person did not know it was wrong but found out later, then he should repent. Change his lifestyle in accordance with God's will.
If he already knew it was wrong and continues in that sinful lifestyle then he is obviously not a born again Christian.
 
BeamUpScotty said:
Do you consider a guy like this to still be a chrsitian in good standing with God?
This sort of thing is happening out there. How would you counsel a person that does this?
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Who said you should counsel him?
How are you qualified?

Don't get trapped.
It can become that way and drag you down.

If he was truly saved?
A child of God?
God must deal with him, not you.

He is going to go through hell on earth if he is truly saved.
God will be doing it.

I once knew some like that when I was in Bible college.

This is only a suggestion.


But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother ​
or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. ​
Do not even eat with such people. 1 Corinthians 5:11​

grace and peace ...........
 
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ScooterJackson said:
Bible college huh?
Under what denomination did you receive indoctrination?
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It was independent - and non-denominational.
The Lord gave me a dream showing me it ten years before I found myself there.

Interesting part?
The Bible college did not exist there ten years before when I had the dream.
 
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