How do I explain that the world became void and without form. God did not make it that way Ezekiel 28 tells us about the King of Tyrus demoted to the Prince of Tyrus, You find out that it is Satan started a war in heaven was kicked out till Jesus sent him back when He said get thy behind Me. Where is Jesus Heaven so where is Satan heaven Check it out and get back to me.
Genesis 1:1&2
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Peter was quoting a Psalm 90:4 which says...
A thousand years in your sight
are like a day that has just gone by,
or like a watch in the night.
And means that a thousand years is a short time from the perspective of an eternal God, and was not intended to use as some kind of bible code to re calculate the creation week.
Also, it doesn't work when you pay attention to the fact that he says "the evening and the morning were the first day....etc"
Evening and Morning make it impossible to reinterpret as anything but... well... evening and morning.
That doesn't make sense. He created it and started it in that state. Then he formed it as described.
To say that he did not create it such that it started as without form and void is to call him a liar. To question his morality in doing so is to accuse God of wrong doing.
Isaiah 45 18 does not contradict Gen 1
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
He created the earth and stared with it being without form and void and then began to shape it as described. He had a plan. He did not create it to be without form and void and leave it like that, He created it and started it in that condition but with no delay in forming it as we read how he did it.
To say that Is 45 18 says that God did not start the world as without form and void and shape it accordingly is to call Gen a lie.
Isaiah was not calling Gen a lie. He was making a point that he formed it to be inhabited and we can read exactly how he did it in Gen 1. By starting with a state of formless and void and shaping it as described and filling it with inhabitants in one week. Because that was his plan it was not to be created and left empty of inhabitants. It was not the earth itself that was the main plan it was the inhabitants, you and me. Mankind that he created it for.
Anyone can understand it, only those who are taught by someone else can come up with the preadamic race theory because neither Moses, (author of Gen), Jeremiah, Isaiah, or Ezekiel ever heard of such a thing and none of them had such a thing in mind when they wrote.
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I don't know if I've ever felt weirdly influenced to be someone's friend, though I feel weird a lot!
Being old feels weird.
Time - In the beginning,
Space - Heavens,
Matter - Earth.
God created EVERYTHING - Time, Space and Matter, and He is outside all of that. Utterly amazing.
We are not left to guess, since the fourth commandment makes creation very clear: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exod 20:11).
Actually in both Genesis 1:1 and Exodus 20:11, "the heavens" is in the plural in Hebrew -- הַשָּׁמַ֣יִם (haš-šā-ma-yim) but each time the KJB translators -- for some strange reason -- made it singular. As a matter of fact the Bible speaks of three heavens (the third being God's Heaven).
That's fair enough. "Roughly spherical" would be smoothed out almost immediately when the waters were divided from the waters. What the Bible does not tell us that God instituted all the natural laws at that time also. What we do know is that the universe was created out of "nothing" (Heb 11:3). God (Christ) simply spoke (energy) the world (matter) into existence (Gen 1). And we know that matter and energy are interchangeable. "E = mc2. It's the world's most famous equation, but what does it really mean? "Energy equals mass times the speed of light squared." On the most basic level, the equation says that energy and mass (matter) are interchangeable; they are different forms of the same thing."
It happened exactly the way the Bible said it happened, and there was nothing messy or purposeless about it. Be careful about your arbitrary insinuations.
Sorry, but your dog does not hunt.
Peter did not say that a day = 1000 years. Yhat is moooootism.....
Peter did say that a day is as 1000 years to God because God is above and outside time itself. Is this new to you?
It is straightforward until you bend it out of shape in a vain effort to support your personal (and faulty) worldview.
^^^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^Peter was quoting a Psalm 90:4 which says...
A thousand years in your sight
are like a day that has just gone by,
or like a watch in the night.
And means that a thousand years is a short time from the perspective of an eternal God, and was not intended to use as some kind of bible code to re calculate the creation week.
Also, it doesn't work when you pay attention to the fact that he says "the evening and the morning were the first day....etc"
Evening and Morning make it impossible to reinterpret as anything but... well... evening and morning.
Amen!!!
You need to read Ezekiel 28 the king of Tyre becomes the prince of Tyre. Where was he as king of Tyre then what happens to him. This is what caused the overthrow of the first earth age; it will be the prince of Tyre that brings an end to this second earth age; then the 1,000 year Day of The Lord the millennium at the end of that God brings His throne right here on earth to rule for ever and ever. Not my words but Gods
I disagree. The end of the first day is denoted by the separation of light and dark, but that isn't an indication that this day could not have been the length of a day in the eyes of the Lord per Psalms 90:4. Nor is there an indication whether a day and night fit into the 24 h timeframe we think of as a night and day today.