Gentile Christians in Synagogues? Where? When?

[Musicmaster]

I recently heard a popular theory among some who believe in Law-keeping stating that early Christians attended synagogues for their leaning in the midst of their discipleship.

This is untenable, as it directly contradicts the scriptural record of systematic expulsion from Synagogues. Evidence from the Gospel of John shows that even during Jesus' ministry, Jewish leaders had already formalized a policy to cast out anyone confessing Jesus as the Christ, including natural born Jews and Proselyte Gentiles...especially us Messianic Jews.

This wasn't an unforeseen outcome. Jesus himself repeatedly warned his disciples they would be put out of synagogues, persecuted and flogged. The practical absurdity of a synagogue leader welcoming Gentile followers of a Man they deemed a heretic, combined with the Book of Acts documenting these very expulsions, dismantles the "synagogue as a school" model that my Hebrew Roots friends and others who claim, as biblical fact, the idea that those early members of the body of Christ under Paul's Gospel of Grace attended Synagogue to learn the scriptures.

The textual evidence points not to a cooperative educational program but to a definitive and often violent schism.

The Case Against Synagogue Discipleship

The Primary Contradiction

The arguments I've seen some present refutes the theory that early Christians, particularly Gentiles, attended synagogue weekly to learn the scriptures. The core refutation rests on a simple premise: The theory is not only absent from scripture but is actively contradicted by it.

Scriptural Evidence of Expulsion

There are specific biblical passages to build a case for an early and hostile separation, such as John 9:22. During Jesus' lifetime, the parents of the man born blind refused to comment on his healing because they "feared the Jews," who had already decreed that confessing Jesus as Christ would result in being "put out of the synagogue." This establishes a pre-crucifixion policy of excommunication.

Jesus's Prophecies: Christ explicitly forewarned his disciples about this persecution, stating, "They will put you out of the synagogues," and that they would be beaten, flogged, and delivered to authorities *within* these same synagogues.

Acts of the Apostles: The narrative shows these prophecies fulfilled. Paul's missionary strategy often involved entering a synagogue, preaching that Jesus is the Messiah, and subsequently being chased out by hostile leadership and members.

The Practicality Test

Beyond direct textual evidence, let me highlight the logical and social implausibility of the theory: A scenario where a synagogue leader ever welcomed new Gentile converts to the "heretical" Jesus movement into the Synagogue is nonsensical. The reality of what happened to those people back then and even today dare Christians begin attending Synagogues who believe in Christ Jesus as Messiah, that clearly would not be seen by the Synagogue leadership as a peaceful interfaith dialogue but as a clash between an established religious authority and a movement it actively sought to suppress and destroy in NT times.

I've been there and done that. We of Christ Jesus aren't welcome in Synagogues, even those of us who are of Jewish descent. We're as anathema to the rabbis as those others are who believe in faith alone in Christ alone for salvation are to the Roman Catholic religion.

MM

 

[frederickdoc]

I recently heard a popular theory among some who believe in Law-keeping stating that early Christians attended synagogues for their leaning in the midst of their discipleship.

This is untenable, as it directly contradicts the scriptural record of systematic expulsion from Synagogues. Evidence from the Gospel of John shows that even during Jesus' ministry, Jewish leaders had already formalized a policy to cast out anyone confessing Jesus as the Christ, including natural born Jews and Proselyte Gentiles...especially us Messianic Jews.

This wasn't an unforeseen outcome. Jesus himself repeatedly warned his disciples they would be put out of synagogues, persecuted and flogged. The practical absurdity of a synagogue leader welcoming Gentile followers of a Man they deemed a heretic, combined with the Book of Acts documenting these very expulsions, dismantles the "synagogue as a school" model that my Hebrew Roots friends and others who claim, as biblical fact, the idea that those early members of the body of Christ under Paul's Gospel of Grace attended Synagogue to learn the scriptures.

The textual evidence points not to a cooperative educational program but to a definitive and often violent schism.

The Case Against Synagogue Discipleship

The Primary Contradiction

The arguments I've seen some present refutes the theory that early Christians, particularly Gentiles, attended synagogue weekly to learn the scriptures. The core refutation rests on a simple premise: The theory is not only absent from scripture but is actively contradicted by it.

Scriptural Evidence of Expulsion

There are specific biblical passages to build a case for an early and hostile separation, such as John 9:22. During Jesus' lifetime, the parents of the man born blind refused to comment on his healing because they "feared the Jews," who had already decreed that confessing Jesus as Christ would result in being "put out of the synagogue." This establishes a pre-crucifixion policy of excommunication.

Jesus's Prophecies: Christ explicitly forewarned his disciples about this persecution, stating, "They will put you out of the synagogues," and that they would be beaten, flogged, and delivered to authorities *within* these same synagogues.

Acts of the Apostles: The narrative shows these prophecies fulfilled. Paul's missionary strategy often involved entering a synagogue, preaching that Jesus is the Messiah, and subsequently being chased out by hostile leadership and members.

The Practicality Test

Beyond direct textual evidence, let me highlight the logical and social implausibility of the theory: A scenario where a synagogue leader ever welcomed new Gentile converts to the "heretical" Jesus movement into the Synagogue is nonsensical. The reality of what happened to those people back then and even today dare Christians begin attending Synagogues who believe in Christ Jesus as Messiah, that clearly would not be seen by the Synagogue leadership as a peaceful interfaith dialogue but as a clash between an established religious authority and a movement it actively sought to suppress and destroy in NT times.

I've been there and done that. We of Christ Jesus aren't welcome in Synagogues, even those of us who are of Jewish descent. We're as anathema to the rabbis as those others are who believe in faith alone in Christ alone for salvation are to the Roman Catholic religion.

MM

I can't read all that to keep sane But I have one reply.
There was the group called the Nazarene from Jesus hometown they were basically Christians that operated within the law yet . I don't know all their details but I know that society was pretty well knit together that was the curds and honey town known as the branch town
Hope that ends it.cuz really don't want to go with all that much cus it just takes away from the body

 

[frederickdoc]

I recently heard a popular theory among some who believe in Law-keeping stating that early Christians attended synagogues for their leaning in the midst of their discipleship.

This is untenable, as it directly contradicts the scriptural record of systematic expulsion from Synagogues. Evidence from the Gospel of John shows that even during Jesus' ministry, Jewish leaders had already formalized a policy to cast out anyone confessing Jesus as the Christ, including natural born Jews and Proselyte Gentiles...especially us Messianic Jews.

This wasn't an unforeseen outcome. Jesus himself repeatedly warned his disciples they would be put out of synagogues, persecuted and flogged. The practical absurdity of a synagogue leader welcoming Gentile followers of a Man they deemed a heretic, combined with the Book of Acts documenting these very expulsions, dismantles the "synagogue as a school" model that my Hebrew Roots friends and others who claim, as biblical fact, the idea that those early members of the body of Christ under Paul's Gospel of Grace attended Synagogue to learn the scriptures.

The textual evidence points not to a cooperative educational program but to a definitive and often violent schism.

The Case Against Synagogue Discipleship

The Primary Contradiction

The arguments I've seen some present refutes the theory that early Christians, particularly Gentiles, attended synagogue weekly to learn the scriptures. The core refutation rests on a simple premise: The theory is not only absent from scripture but is actively contradicted by it.

Scriptural Evidence of Expulsion

There are specific biblical passages to build a case for an early and hostile separation, such as John 9:22. During Jesus' lifetime, the parents of the man born blind refused to comment on his healing because they "feared the Jews," who had already decreed that confessing Jesus as Christ would result in being "put out of the synagogue." This establishes a pre-crucifixion policy of excommunication.

Jesus's Prophecies: Christ explicitly forewarned his disciples about this persecution, stating, "They will put you out of the synagogues," and that they would be beaten, flogged, and delivered to authorities *within* these same synagogues.

Acts of the Apostles: The narrative shows these prophecies fulfilled. Paul's missionary strategy often involved entering a synagogue, preaching that Jesus is the Messiah, and subsequently being chased out by hostile leadership and members.

The Practicality Test

Beyond direct textual evidence, let me highlight the logical and social implausibility of the theory: A scenario where a synagogue leader ever welcomed new Gentile converts to the "heretical" Jesus movement into the Synagogue is nonsensical. The reality of what happened to those people back then and even today dare Christians begin attending Synagogues who believe in Christ Jesus as Messiah, that clearly would not be seen by the Synagogue leadership as a peaceful interfaith dialogue but as a clash between an established religious authority and a movement it actively sought to suppress and destroy in NT times.

I've been there and done that. We of Christ Jesus aren't welcome in Synagogues, even those of us who are of Jewish descent. We're as anathema to the rabbis as those others are who believe in faith alone in Christ alone for salvation are to the Roman Catholic religion.

MM

I know they preach Jesus in or by the synagogues I would imagine they still wanted to claim God's house

 

[Musicmaster]

I can't read all that to keep sane But I have one reply.
There was the group called the Nazarene from Jesus hometown they were basically Christians that operated within the law yet . I don't know all their details but I know that society was pretty well knit together that was the curds and honey town known as the branch town
Hope that ends it.cuz really don't want to go with all that much cus it just takes away from the body

Huh? I don't get what you're talking about...

MM

 

[SomeDisciple]

This is untenable,

Pretty much. I guess somebody could argue that some synagogues were converted; and perhaps jewish believers could build their own separate synagogues- but these didn't exist in significant numbers.

In the actual letter, he gives them instructions based on Genesis and specifically does not burden them with anything else, including synagogue attendance.

 

[frederickdoc]

Huh? I don't get what you're talking about...

MM

Well actually I was talking about the original nazarines that God the Holy Ghost then I realize your certain Gentiles yes I made a mistake still it's worthy to know and as you can see history Gentiles did move into Nazareth so I could be half right?

 

[SomeDisciple]

Well actually I was talking about the original nazarines that God the Holy Ghost then I realize your certain Gentiles yes I made a mistake still it's worthy to know and as you can see history Gentiles did move into Nazareth so I could be half right?

It's likely that believing Jews would have continued to keep the law; though not as mistaking it for salvation requirements. Gentiles who became Christians and lived among them likely did the same.

 

[tablet123]

Gentile Christians in the synagogue as belonging to the synagogue is a contradiction.

It does not matter if they believed their physical laws the fact that they claimed Jesus as Lord and Savior would not allow them to be part of their click.

Paul went in to the synagogues to reach out to them about Jesus.

But he was not part of the synagogue for they represent the Old Testament.

And Paul did not want to be part of them.

So maybe some Gentiles went in to synagogues to preach Jesus.

And Christians might of went in to synagogues to worship the one true God with them for they had that in common.

But the synagogue would never accept Christians unless they converted which Gentiles could take hold of the Old Testament teachings.

Gentiles were barred from the inner court but not the synagogue.

Of course going in there pushing Jesus might get them escorted out.

But if they were Judaizers they would accept them to study the Torah with them.

But I do not know for if they preached Jesus they might of said get out of here for they would be disturbing them.

But they might of wanted to debate with them to try to persuade them Christianity is not true.

They probably associated more outside the synagogue with the Jews hoping they might convert if they thought they said they kept the Torah.

Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

It appeared there were Gentiles who went to synagogues but they were not Christians belonging to it.

 

[frederickdoc]

Well and look at you're almost looking at a death sentence challenging the religious leaders it isn't like today we go visit another denomination they would actually Stone you. ask Paul 40 stripes save Two

 

[frederickdoc]

Gentile Christians in the synagogue as belonging to the synagogue is a contradiction.

It does not matter if they believed their physical laws the fact that they claimed Jesus as Lord and Savior would not allow them to be part of their click.

Paul went in to the synagogues to reach out to them about Jesus.

But he was not part of the synagogue for they represent the Old Testament.

And Paul did not want to be part of them.

So maybe some Gentiles went in to synagogues to preach Jesus.

And Christians might of went in to synagogues to worship the one true God with them for they had that in common.

But the synagogue would never accept Christians unless they converted which Gentiles could take hold of the Old Testament teachings.

Gentiles were barred from the inner court but not the synagogue.

Of course going in there pushing Jesus might get them escorted out.

But if they were Judaizers they would accept them to study the Torah with them.

But I do not know for if they preached Jesus they might of said get out of here for they would be disturbing them.

But they might of wanted to debate with them to try to persuade them Christianity is not true.

They probably associated more outside the synagogue with the Jews hoping they might convert if they thought they said they kept the Torah.

Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

It appeared there were Gentiles who went to synagogues but they were not Christians belonging to it.

Know more about the Samaritans , that would answer more to this thread i feel . They for the second group called by The hily Ghost. And from there went into the world story short when Jesus was talking to the Samaritan woman at the well I can picture the two sticks in Jesus hand making them one again but that's just how the Holy Spirit Works in me I'm just sharing that I kind of still see the two sticks because it's used that didn't see Jesus is the anointed one are not yet grafted into the new generation Nation Quickened . Other than that it's not our concern I'm not fighting to keep the ten commandments for anybody
if I had one commandment to receive the Holy Ghost today I'm doing very well

 

[lrs68]

Examples like Cornelius in the Book of Acts and from the Letters of Paul indicate home gatherings. If anything the Book of Acts paints a clear picture that Paul visited several Synagogues but in effort to convert people to Yeshua.

 

[JohnDB]

I recently heard a popular theory among some who believe in Law-keeping stating that early Christians attended synagogues for their leaning in the midst of their discipleship.

This is untenable, as it directly contradicts the scriptural record of systematic expulsion from Synagogues. Evidence from the Gospel of John shows that even during Jesus' ministry, Jewish leaders had already formalized a policy to cast out anyone confessing Jesus as the Christ, including natural born Jews and Proselyte Gentiles...especially us Messianic Jews.

This wasn't an unforeseen outcome. Jesus himself repeatedly warned his disciples they would be put out of synagogues, persecuted and flogged. The practical absurdity of a synagogue leader welcoming Gentile followers of a Man they deemed a heretic, combined with the Book of Acts documenting these very expulsions, dismantles the "synagogue as a school" model that my Hebrew Roots friends and others who claim, as biblical fact, the idea that those early members of the body of Christ under Paul's Gospel of Grace attended Synagogue to learn the scriptures.

The textual evidence points not to a cooperative educational program but to a definitive and often violent schism.

The Case Against Synagogue Discipleship

The Primary Contradiction

The arguments I've seen some present refutes the theory that early Christians, particularly Gentiles, attended synagogue weekly to learn the scriptures. The core refutation rests on a simple premise: The theory is not only absent from scripture but is actively contradicted by it.

Scriptural Evidence of Expulsion

There are specific biblical passages to build a case for an early and hostile separation, such as John 9:22. During Jesus' lifetime, the parents of the man born blind refused to comment on his healing because they "feared the Jews," who had already decreed that confessing Jesus as Christ would result in being "put out of the synagogue." This establishes a pre-crucifixion policy of excommunication.

Jesus's Prophecies: Christ explicitly forewarned his disciples about this persecution, stating, "They will put you out of the synagogues," and that they would be beaten, flogged, and delivered to authorities *within* these same synagogues.

Acts of the Apostles: The narrative shows these prophecies fulfilled. Paul's missionary strategy often involved entering a synagogue, preaching that Jesus is the Messiah, and subsequently being chased out by hostile leadership and members.

The Practicality Test

Beyond direct textual evidence, let me highlight the logical and social implausibility of the theory: A scenario where a synagogue leader ever welcomed new Gentile converts to the "heretical" Jesus movement into the Synagogue is nonsensical. The reality of what happened to those people back then and even today dare Christians begin attending Synagogues who believe in Christ Jesus as Messiah, that clearly would not be seen by the Synagogue leadership as a peaceful interfaith dialogue but as a clash between an established religious authority and a movement it actively sought to suppress and destroy in NT times.

I've been there and done that. We of Christ Jesus aren't welcome in Synagogues, even those of us who are of Jewish descent. We're as anathema to the rabbis as those others are who believe in faith alone in Christ alone for salvation are to the Roman Catholic religion.

MM

It doesn't make sense to you because you have a very weak understanding of ancient near eastern anthropology.

There's a reason why Peter's house is a church.
But....it was often referred to as a Synagogue...kinda.

First off....you do not think in Hebrew.
Hebrew is a metaphoric, verb based language.
IOW you don't go to a Synagogue.....you Synagogue at a designated meeting place. In Roman cities like Sepphoris (next to Jewish Suburb Nazareth) this would be at the gymnasium. (Kinda like the how the high school gym is used for its bleachers....but never closed) and Christians met on Sunday....Jews on Saturday .

The leader of the Synagogue kept the schedule....the schedule had the men who lived in the area all listed and the scripture section they were assigned made out years in advance. On your assigned Saturday you would read your section of scripture and then tell the congregation what that passage meant to you. Then the congregation would discuss what their thoughts were of your thoughts.
Thats doing synagogue.. of course a rabbi was usually on hand to explain and read the Torah. (You, a common man, would read from some other OT section not Torah) but a traveling rabbi was always extended curtesies to speak at the Synagogue as well......

To be put out?
Your name would be removed from the schedule....you would be treated as a goyim. You are persona non grata.

 

[Musicmaster]

It doesn't make sense to you because you have a very weak understanding of ancient near eastern anthropology.

There's a reason why Peter's house is a church.
But....it was often referred to as a Synagogue...kinda.

First off....you do not think in Hebrew.
Hebrew is a metaphoric, verb based language.
IOW you don't go to a Synagogue.....you Synagogue at a designated meeting place. In Roman cities like Sepphoris (next to Jewish Suburb Nazareth) this would be at the gymnasium. (Kinda like the how the high school gym is used for its bleachers....but never closed) and Christians met on Sunday....Jews on Saturday .

The leader of the Synagogue kept the schedule....the schedule had the men who lived in the area all listed and the scripture section they were assigned made out years in advance. On your assigned Saturday you would read your section of scripture and then tell the congregation what that passage meant to you. Then the congregation would discuss what their thoughts were of your thoughts.
Thats doing synagogue.. of course a rabbi was usually on hand to explain and read the Torah. (You, a common man, would read from some other OT section not Torah) but a traveling rabbi was always extended curtesies to speak at the Synagogue as well......

To be put out?
Your name would be removed from the schedule....you would be treated as a goyim. You are persona non grata.

Um...I'm an Israeli. Perhaps you didn't know that. So, to assume I don't know the things you assume about me, whom you have never met, your words are indeed false about me and what you think I don't know.

MM

 

[rewriter]

I recently heard a popular theory among some who believe in Law-keeping stating that early Christians attended synagogues for their leaning in the midst of their discipleship.

This is untenable, as it directly contradicts the scriptural record of systematic expulsion from Synagogues. Evidence from the Gospel of John shows that even during Jesus' ministry, Jewish leaders had already formalized a policy to cast out anyone confessing Jesus as the Christ, including natural born Jews and Proselyte Gentiles...especially us Messianic Jews.

This wasn't an unforeseen outcome. Jesus himself repeatedly warned his disciples they would be put out of synagogues, persecuted and flogged. The practical absurdity of a synagogue leader welcoming Gentile followers of a Man they deemed a heretic, combined with the Book of Acts documenting these very expulsions, dismantles the "synagogue as a school" model that my Hebrew Roots friends and others who claim, as biblical fact, the idea that those early members of the body of Christ under Paul's Gospel of Grace attended Synagogue to learn the scriptures.

The textual evidence points not to a cooperative educational program but to a definitive and often violent schism.

The Case Against Synagogue Discipleship

The Primary Contradiction

The arguments I've seen some present refutes the theory that early Christians, particularly Gentiles, attended synagogue weekly to learn the scriptures. The core refutation rests on a simple premise: The theory is not only absent from scripture but is actively contradicted by it.

Scriptural Evidence of Expulsion

There are specific biblical passages to build a case for an early and hostile separation, such as John 9:22. During Jesus' lifetime, the parents of the man born blind refused to comment on his healing because they "feared the Jews," who had already decreed that confessing Jesus as Christ would result in being "put out of the synagogue." This establishes a pre-crucifixion policy of excommunication.

Jesus's Prophecies: Christ explicitly forewarned his disciples about this persecution, stating, "They will put you out of the synagogues," and that they would be beaten, flogged, and delivered to authorities *within* these same synagogues.

Acts of the Apostles: The narrative shows these prophecies fulfilled. Paul's missionary strategy often involved entering a synagogue, preaching that Jesus is the Messiah, and subsequently being chased out by hostile leadership and members.

The Practicality Test

Beyond direct textual evidence, let me highlight the logical and social implausibility of the theory: A scenario where a synagogue leader ever welcomed new Gentile converts to the "heretical" Jesus movement into the Synagogue is nonsensical. The reality of what happened to those people back then and even today dare Christians begin attending Synagogues who believe in Christ Jesus as Messiah, that clearly would not be seen by the Synagogue leadership as a peaceful interfaith dialogue but as a clash between an established religious authority and a movement it actively sought to suppress and destroy in NT times.

I've been there and done that. We of Christ Jesus aren't welcome in Synagogues, even those of us who are of Jewish descent. We're as anathema to the rabbis as those others are who believe in faith alone in Christ alone for salvation are to the Roman Catholic religion.

MM

You make an interesting argument, as long as we can trust what is recorded. But remember there is evidence that both Mark and John were edited at an early date, so we do not know with absolute certainty what was changed. But there is also obscure, hard evidence that dates back to the 1st century that can also provide some evidence as well as relatively obscure. vaguely worded written evidence from the early church fathers through Eusebius. Unfortunately, this evidence contradicts what is recorded. It would only fit if there was a conscious changing of the record, maybe editing a couple gospels and intentionally writing a history of conflict between Christians and Jews. Following the deliberate changing of the history, tradition could then take over and make the official version the one that was taught to anyone outside the church, but at least some within knew the correct history, then when the church was accepted by Rome, the invented history became the only version to be taught, within or without.

 

[frederickdoc]

I recently heard a popular theory among some who believe in Law-keeping stating that early Christians attended synagogues for their leaning in the midst of their discipleship.

This is untenable, as it directly contradicts the scriptural record of systematic expulsion from Synagogues. Evidence from the Gospel of John shows that even during Jesus' ministry, Jewish leaders had already formalized a policy to cast out anyone confessing Jesus as the Christ, including natural born Jews and Proselyte Gentiles...especially us Messianic Jews.

This wasn't an unforeseen outcome. Jesus himself repeatedly warned his disciples they would be put out of synagogues, persecuted and flogged. The practical absurdity of a synagogue leader welcoming Gentile followers of a Man they deemed a heretic, combined with the Book of Acts documenting these very expulsions, dismantles the "synagogue as a school" model that my Hebrew Roots friends and others who claim, as biblical fact, the idea that those early members of the body of Christ under Paul's Gospel of Grace attended Synagogue to learn the scriptures.

The textual evidence points not to a cooperative educational program but to a definitive and often violent schism.

The Case Against Synagogue Discipleship

The Primary Contradiction

The arguments I've seen some present refutes the theory that early Christians, particularly Gentiles, attended synagogue weekly to learn the scriptures. The core refutation rests on a simple premise: The theory is not only absent from scripture but is actively contradicted by it.

Scriptural Evidence of Expulsion

There are specific biblical passages to build a case for an early and hostile separation, such as John 9:22. During Jesus' lifetime, the parents of the man born blind refused to comment on his healing because they "feared the Jews," who had already decreed that confessing Jesus as Christ would result in being "put out of the synagogue." This establishes a pre-crucifixion policy of excommunication.

Jesus's Prophecies: Christ explicitly forewarned his disciples about this persecution, stating, "They will put you out of the synagogues," and that they would be beaten, flogged, and delivered to authorities *within* these same synagogues.

Acts of the Apostles: The narrative shows these prophecies fulfilled. Paul's missionary strategy often involved entering a synagogue, preaching that Jesus is the Messiah, and subsequently being chased out by hostile leadership and members.

The Practicality Test

Beyond direct textual evidence, let me highlight the logical and social implausibility of the theory: A scenario where a synagogue leader ever welcomed new Gentile converts to the "heretical" Jesus movement into the Synagogue is nonsensical. The reality of what happened to those people back then and even today dare Christians begin attending Synagogues who believe in Christ Jesus as Messiah, that clearly would not be seen by the Synagogue leadership as a peaceful interfaith dialogue but as a clash between an established religious authority and a movement it actively sought to suppress and destroy in NT times.

I've been there and done that. We of Christ Jesus aren't welcome in Synagogues, even those of us who are of Jewish descent. We're as anathema to the rabbis as those others are who believe in faith alone in Christ alone for salvation are to the Roman Catholic religion.

MM

Ive been there R C . I didnt truely jnow if God was real in R C ,.But once u found out about the Holy Spirit indwell its was almost game over The R C had to get it all out of me the main one was the baby baptism. Praying the saints that I wasn't big on anyway thinking I knew all the scriptures didn't need a Bible and whatever else are R C left me empty

 

[JohnDB]

Um...I'm an Israeli. Perhaps you didn't know that. So, to assume I don't know the things you assume about me, whom you have never met, your words are indeed false about me and what you think I don't know.

MM

Ummmm

Well then I stand corrected about your nationality...but in truth its a false charge because haven't said a single word about your nationality....

And your RACE IS NOT RELEVANT TO WHAT I SAID. NOT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST YOU MORON!

MY CHARGE AGAINST YOU WAS YOUR IGNORANCE OF ANCIENT ANTHROPOLOGY.

Get a freaking clue!

Either put on your big boy panties and have an honest conversation or go away.