German Government Collapse

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China is having the same problem. It turns out their one child policy came back to bite them in the butt because they are running out of people to enter the workforce

However. Declining birth rates could be due to people not being able to afford to have children
It is not only the birth rate. Every year a city from 300 000 people is killed through abortion. ( In germany)
 
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Yes. You know everyone 's living situation. You should go on the road with your psychic abilities
Over the last six thousand years Germans are living at the highest standard of living in all that time. If they could "afford" to have children in the last six thousand years they can certainly afford to have children now. Your excuse for why someone would kill their baby is will not stand at the day of judgment anymore than trying to justify any other murder.

This simply demonstrates that these people who would use such a horrific excuse worship mammon.
 
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Over the last six thousand years Germans are living at the highest standard of living in all that time. If they could "afford" to have children in the last six thousand years they can certainly afford to have children now. Your excuse for why someone would kill their baby is will not stand at the day of judgment anymore than trying to justify any other murder.

This simply demonstrates that these people who would use such a horrific excuse worship mammon.
Yeah. Wanting to have enough money to survive totally equals to worshiping money
 

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Yeah. Wanting to have enough money to survive totally equals to worshiping money
Are you seriously trying to say that people who get married in Germany and then have children will not be able to survive because of how expensive their children are?

If someone complains that they need to abort their baby because they will be too expensive, they aren't talking about "survival". They are talking about having nice vacations, expensive cars, etc.
 
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Yeah. Wanting to have enough money to survive totally equals to worshiping money
There's an old saying,if you can't feed 'em don't breed 'em.

Birth control saves lives. And money.

In a civilized moral society abortion cannot be the go to substitute for that.
 

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There's an old saying,if you can't feed 'em don't breed 'em.

Birth control saves lives. And money.

In a civilized moral society abortion cannot be the go to substitute for that.
If someone truly was so broke they could not survive with that child then not only would they get an abortion they would also get fixed so that they could not get pregnant at the same time.
 
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Yes. You know everyone 's living situation. You should go on the road with your psychic abilities
I know how easy it is to abort in germany. And the almost do it not because, they have no money to raise the kid. Every one in germany learnes from the school on to avoid pregnancy. A lives Stil which promotes live as you want and without consequences is in my eyes the major reason for abortion.
 
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If someone truly was so broke they could not survive with that child then not only would they get an abortion they would also get fixed so that they could not get pregnant at the same time.
At least in America there are many options for women in such a predicament. Sterilizing themselves is extreme because their financial straits can work themselves out later.
 
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I know how easy it is to abort in germany. And the almost do it not because, they have no money to raise the kid. Every one in germany learnes from the school on to avoid pregnancy.
In the US, cost of living is a barrier. In school they advocate various forms of planning (birth control, etc.) but not to avoid pregnancy forever.
A lives Stil which promotes live as you want and without consequences is in my eyes the major reason for abortion.
You would think people would still be interested in the "married with children" lifestyle. No?
 

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I know how easy it is to abort in germany. And the almost do it not because, they have no money to raise the kid. Every one in germany learnes from the school on to avoid pregnancy. A lives Stil which promotes live as you want and without consequences is in my eyes the major reason for abortion.
Nah
 

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In the US, cost of living is a barrier. In school they advocate various forms of planning (birth control, etc.) but not to avoid pregnancy forever.

You would think people would still be interested in the "married with children" lifestyle. No?
This are 2 pair of shoes. Those which want to have a family with children, must not be same who abort children, because of their selfish Lifestyle.

We are living in a complete mad world. The barrier for couples which cant get children to adopt children are very high and the barrier to abort a unwantet child are very low.

A child needs more love, then money.

Society has changed the last 20-30 years. Egoism grows. Live your own life and do what is good for yourself. There is no place for children.
 

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A child needs more love, then money.
Children need food, clothing, and shelter to survive; and sound doctrine to flourish. The colored paper, and digitized accounts we call "money" they have no need of at all.

Your country's housing costs are comparable to a hellhole in the United States that I call "California". Your people are being deceived and stolen from.
 

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Children need food, clothing, and shelter to survive; and sound doctrine to flourish. The colored paper, and digitized accounts we call "money" they have no need of at all.

Your country's housing costs are comparable to a hellhole in the United States that I call "California". Your people are being deceived and stolen from.
most of us are deceived and stolen from- by the government....
 
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Children need food, clothing, and shelter to survive; and sound doctrine to flourish. The colored paper, and digitized accounts we call "money" they have no need of at all.

Your country's housing costs are comparable to a hellhole in the United States that I call "California". Your people are being deceived and stolen from.
I am speaking from germany, not from USA. The families in germany which have more then 3 children are mostly families whose income is not so high.
We have 4 children, I working alone. Not every child had a single room.
If I would follow the government advises, how big a room should be for a child and what a child "need". Then we probably had only 1 ore 2 children.
 
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This are 2 pair of shoes. Those which want to have a family with children, must not be same who abort children, because of their selfish Lifestyle.

We are living in a complete mad world. The barrier for couples which cant get children to adopt children are very high and the barrier to abort a unwantet child are very low.

A child needs more love, then money.

Society has changed the last 20-30 years. Egoism grows. Live your own life and do what is good for yourself. There is no place for children.
Yeah I tried serving my kid a plate of love once. He was still hungry.