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Karlon

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As I understand it, the catholic church is never locked, so, it makes sense that keeping it continually accessible would be a drain on funding. They consider the church a sort of sanctuary, I think is the idea, but idk because it'd seem that more homeless people, for example, would then be flocking to it.
i mean that the catholic church is dwindling in numbers because more people are turning away from the catholic church.
 
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This is someone else, but makes a good point.
I was raised Roman Catholic and love Catholics. This is how we all get saved, Catholic or not. Continue listening because the first guy doesn't explain from Scriptures clearly.


Great video, really liked how that lad presented it too. Catholic childhood and school ed too, 1st communion a couple of days after my 7th birthday, confirmed at 8.

The education was fantastic, as you'd expect from a Catholic school of the time but confirmed at 8? Think that wasn't right, no children of that age have any understanding of the commitment involved. However, think children are much older now before being confirmed and as for your saying this: "This is how we all get saved, Catholic or not." Ditto me! Doesn't matter me to me what it says on the tin, it's what's inside that matters.
 

Ouch

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You approached this woman with a friendly, calm demeanor. I do agree. The intention of my debriefing, however, is to uncover your moral objective. If your forethought was to simply question this woman's purpose for collecting donations, I see no harm. I adore the verses you shared as well. These are very focused on the centrality of Christ as mediator, the supremacy of His authority, and the sufficiency of his sacrifice. Not a word of fallacy is to be found in these words, nor do they dismiss any sort of prayer or the divinity found in our Mother Mary. I see that you are strong in your faith of Jesus as the sole redeemer and mediator between God and humanity. Be that as it may, Catholic theology makes a distinction between mediation of redemption (which is with Christ alone) and mediation of intercession (which can be shared by others, including Mary.) Just as we ask our loved ones to pray for us, I believe prayer from those deeply united with Christ is very powerful and influential. We believe that Mary, being fully unified with God in heaven, can intercede on our behalf. Catholics--I've come to believe--we are romantics of the Word. We do not just read the bible, we inhabit it. It is not just a rulebook but a divine love story between God and humanity, played out through covenant, incarnation, sacrifice, and resurrection. Every mass is telling of this story, Genisis all the way to Revelations, God finds us again, woos us, redeems us. Mary is venerated not as a distant figure, but as a tender mother who reveals the softer, nurturing face of God’s story. Catholics don't want to cherry-pick through the Bible. we want to embrace the Word as inspired: the beauty and the heartbreak, the poetry of the Psalms, the warnings of the prophets, the drama of the Gospels, the visions of Revelation. The liturgical calendar itself ensures that Catholics revisit the entire arc of Scripture throughout the year from Advent’s anticipation to Pentecost’s flame. We don't just belief in Truth, but truth that loves us back.
The Lord, of course, is our One true redeemer, just as He is to you. We come to know Him through His Word, which is not just ink on a page but living and active. How can any prayer direct to the Glory of God be invalid?

P.S

Martin Luther called Mary “the highest woman and the noblest gem in Christianity after Christ." John Wycliffe, a pre-reformation figure, once said, “It seems to me impossible that we should obtain the reward of Heaven without the help of Mary” Even Ulrich Zwingli said, “The more the honor and love of Christ increases among men, so much the esteem and honor given to Mary should grow.”

Luke 1:28, Luke 1:42, Luke 1:43
Do you follow man or JESUS, this is what JESUS says.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I ask you as Paul asked the Ephesus, HAVE ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? HOW WERE YOU BAPTIZED?

Acts 19
King James Version
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
 

Ouch

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i mean that the catholic church is dwindling in numbers because more people are turning away from the catholic church.
I hope that is true, so many people on this earth following the pope instead of JESUS.
 

Ouch

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#25
This is someone else, but makes a good point.
I was raised Roman Catholic and love Catholics. This is how we all get saved, Catholic or not. Continue listening because the first guy doesn't explain from Scriptures clearly.


This is someone else, but makes a good point.
I was raised Roman Catholic and love Catholics. This is how we all get saved, Catholic or not. Continue listening because the first guy doesn't explain from Scriptures clearly.


John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

JESUS is clear we have to be born of WATER and of SPIRT to ENTER.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

WHAT SHALL WE DO?

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.