GOD IS FOR YOU, NOT AGAINST YOU

[Grace777x70]

CONVICT CONVINCE EXPOSE REPROVE

 

[ladylynn]

Here is someone I have not heard of before.....the Holy Spirit is called our advocate and so is Jesus called our advocate....


[video=youtube;zyAuhRf73D8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyAuhRf73D8[/video]

Wow, very clear concise video! Thanks!!

 

[Willie-T]

Wow., lots going on since I last was here. I see Grace777 has been posting links from the horses mouth sort of speak., and also from a few other links. There is NO way to understand unless you hear a person out to the end of their explanation. Even if while you are listening mid way you get annoyed again. Listen until the end because the very questions gets laid out then the answer in context to the question and then some.

I don't do the linking very well and end up spending hours trying to articulate an answer. It has been stated so many times that repentance is done every day. We are constantly repenting and changing our minds to be in agreement with God's Word about Him and us. We agree and change. Repentance is not always crying in sorrow and regret., it is most often having a mind change and realizing how far off we were. Then we get in line with the truth.

I spent many years in the kind of repentance that you are speaking of here and basically it was a glorification of my emotions. I focused on how awful I 'felt' and not on the remedy to the regret and suffering of sorrow for my missing the mark. Religion is focused on how much can WE do to show God how sorry WE are.... what can WE DO to get this right? to make this right? How do WE get OUT of this awful feeling of guilt and condemnation???? How much suffering do we need to do?
(when all the while the Christian has been given the gift of NO CONDEMNATION and is ignoring it)

Repentance (the kind you are talking about) is NOT the true Gospel of Christ crucified. Our 'feelings' of sorrow are about as valuable to God as Judas's were. He was so sorry he hated himself and tried to make it right by giving back the silver.,then he made the ultimate payment of showing just HOW sorry he was and what he was willing to do to PAY. He killed himself.

Many Christians are slowly doing that too. As if that mattered in the face of what Jesus did on the cross. WE CAN NOT DO WHAT HE DID. Repentance is actually accepting God's remedy for our sin...Jesus Christ His Son. Humbling ourselves to the realization our 'feelings' are stupid. They are supposed to be put aside and instead we are to take on God's way of solving the sin problem.


As Christians we LEARN from the place of forgiveness. We do not have to start all over again as if we were never made sons. We have the gift of no condemnation and we are learning about God's grace and how it applies.

I tried, too. (You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ladylynn again.)

 

[Grace777x70]

you are welcome....I liked how he talked about the Holy Spirit being our Advocate ( AMP Bible ) here on earth while Jesus is our Advocate in heaven before the Father.

The Holy Spirit testifies/witnesses to us the things of Jesus ....He is our righteousness!

Hebrews 10:15-18 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS UPON THEIR HEART, AND ON THEIR MIND I WILL WRITE THEM," He then says,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] "AND THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE."
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Now where there is forgiveness of these things, there is no longer any offering for sin.

Wow, very clear concise video! Thanks!!

 

[JGIG]

I listened to the JP video and it didn't address crossmarks question. But I'm listening to this message and this guy has a very good grasp on what the Bible says the Holy Spirit does and how He reminds us of our righteousness IN Christ and we get a revelation of Jesus Christ's work in us. Good link Grace777, but the JP vid didn't get into the Holy Spirit's not convicting the believer of sin.

The walk of the Christian is to keep looking to Jesus. Why would we be continually told to look to Jesus, put on the mind of Christ., etc... And then the Holy Spirit would instead of remind of sin and convict us of our sin? He does it in a whole different way than what makes sense to us humans since we are used to being reprimanded humanly speaking.

The battle is to REMEMBER who we are IN Christ and the power of His resurrection working in and through us. When we sin, we are not behaving in accordance with who we are in Christ. Does the HS use condemnation to get us back to the path? No, He tells us of our right standing IN Christ and we are motivated by the LOVE of Christ to be Christ like. It is the LOVE OF GOD that constrains us.

The whole mind set of the person is to be changing. Our human mind set says we deserve to be condemned and whipped back into shape. The Holy Spirit is the comforter., the teacher., to lead us into all truth while we are here. He deals with us according to HIS grace. Not according to our sins. This is how we learn now. We need to get a revelation on how different God teaches us now that we are sons.

For the grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts., how to live soberly righteously and Godly in this present age.

Again, so well-stated, thank you!

Grace is counter-intuitive to our performance-based paradigms. One good reason for repentance - the changing of our minds to agree with God about His Abundant, Amazing, Teaching, Comforting, Grace \o/.

-JGIG

 

[ladylynn]

As you wish....

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Hey thanks you guys for the reps thoughts!! As long as you guys keep posting about the gospel of grace and truth., I'll be here commenting on it and high five-ing you. And thanks so much for the links too! Have been learning a lot so please keep it coming!!

 

[JGIG]

Hey Grace777, can you put up that cartoon of the kids going around the mulberry tree? OR better yet, that funny statue with the guy and his hand covering his head!!?? LOL those pics really add some levity to the discussion.

As you wish....

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Here's one: I'll title it, 'Why a Religious Mindset Doesn't Work'




-JGIG

 

[Gr8grace]

It's a bit frustrating to keep trying to give someone who is hungry this awesome delicious meal with a gorgeous hunk of tender juicy steak with wonderful perfectly cooked veggies and the best mashed potatoes in the world.,with the most flavorful fresh coffee with cheesecake for dessert.... Only to have them tell you it's not steak.,veggies and mashed potatoes!! it's tofu..........it's ALL TOFU!!! am not eating that junk!!!

Hey now! lets get the legalists fired up..................a good glass of the devils blood or wine would fit in nice!

 

[ladylynn]

Hey now! lets get the legalists fired up..................a good glass of the devils blood or wine would fit in nice!

Oh GACK NO!! Tofu is palatable and sort of the kind of spiritual food I was used to. Just sort of mundane with no flavor, no looking forward to the next meal., no feasting happens with plain tofu. Also, there is no excitement in the telling of how satisfying a plate of tofu is. Who gets excited about tofu?

 

[ladylynn]

Grace is steak!!

 

[Grace777x70]

Amen...it's being established in righteousness....and in the word of righteousness..that's where we grow up in Christ

Grace is steak!!

 

[PeterJens]

Weird you are happy to talk about the Holy Spirit not convicting of sin, but not your conscience?

Now when people preach the word, what brings conviction of sin?

It is the common theme of christian conversion. Conviction of sin, repentance and faith.

What is doing the conviction?

And why after being saved should this conviction stop is you are literally sinning?

Most christians experience conviction about issues throughout their lives. But somehow you appear to be saying this is wrong. How? Are they not christians, or is something wrong with the new creation within according to your model?

 

[ladylynn]

For many years we were taught in church that an "evil conscience" or "seared conscience" meant a person had gone so far in sin that they no longer heard the voice of their conscience. That sin so did a job on us that like a hot iron on flesh, it made thick skin, scare tissue., even proud flesh like on horses.

When in fact for the Christian., the truth of the matter is because of Jesus, our evil conscience has been sprinkled with the blood of Jesus.

It is when we do not hold fast to this truth of what Jesus has done by the blood, the enemy will be able to do what he does best, condemn the believer with accusations that are false as to WHO we are in Christ and WHAT we have in Christ. The enemy will use this condemnation to accuse us and use our conscience to do it.


Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.

A seared conscience is one that can only condemn it self and not be open to the truth of God's Word due to the lack of knowing who we are in Christ. Our conscience is not what we go by, we go by the new man and the truth of there being no more condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. Believe that our conscience is sprinkled clean and do not accept condemnation from the enemy of our souls.

 

[Grace777x70]

Amen...and in having that conscience purged ..we have a good conscience..established in faith in the finished work of Christ

Hebrews 9:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Now we have a good conscience...

1 Timothy 1:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.

1 Timothy 3:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9[/SUP] Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

2 Corinthians 1:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] For our proud confidence is this: the testimony of our conscience, that in holiness and godly sincerity, not in fleshly wisdom but in the grace of God, we have conducted ourselves in the world, and especially toward you.

For many years we were taught in church that an "evil conscience" or "seared conscience" meant a person had gone so far in sin that they no longer heard the voice of their conscience. That sin so did a job on us that like a hot iron on flesh, it made thick skin, scare tissue., even proud flesh like on horses.

When in fact for the Christian., the truth of the matter is because of Jesus, our evil conscience has been sprinkled with the blood of Jesus.

Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.

A seared conscience is one that can only condemn it self and not be open to the truth of God's Word due to the lack of knowing who we are in Christ. Our conscience is not what we go by, we go by the new man and the truth of there being no more condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. Believe that our conscience is sprinkled clean and do not accept condemnation from the enemy of our souls.

 

[PeterJens]

A seared conscience is one that can only condemn it self and not be open to the truth of God's Word due to the lack of knowing who we are in Christ. Our conscience is not what we go by, we go by the new man and the truth of there being no more condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. Believe that our conscience is sprinkled clean and do not accept condemnation from the enemy of our souls.

Ladylynn - you worry me. Your conscience is merely a balancing part of your soul that says here you are, you have done this and said that and it is inconsistent. It helps you remember your loyalties, that the person you care about here is feeling bad or that should not have been said.

What worries me is you feel the enemy can use your conscience against you. Imagine if what your conscience is saying is true. It does not mean you are guilty of sin, rather there is something you need to work through. Once you have worked through it, you know you are standing in a good place.

It sounds to me like you are searing your conscience on the premise it is evil. This leads you into spiritual blindness and a cold heart. It is why Jesus criticised the phrarisees because they had gone cold. We walk in a relationship. Now if you were saying walking in the Spirit meant was your conscience is clear you would be talking as Paul talked.

My conscience is clear. I do not know or understand the spiritual reality you are walking in, but it does not match the Lord and His work. I know you are telling me the truth, because of the way you share, but this is not what Jesus meant.

Now you are talking to someone who has a very sensitive conscience. For me joking about the kids being hurt to joke with the wife causes me issues, but it also is about care. So I do not understand this, at all.

What I do know is people who loose morality references and shut down their conscience calling it of satan, you have already blinded the population. Muslims do this are part of their indoctrination. It is why these issues matter, one on one.

 

[RickyZ]

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[TD="colspan: 3, align: left"] Are you faced with challenges in your life right now? Are you having marital problems and financial woes? Maybe your child is going astray or an old illness has returned. What then will you say to all these things?

Do you know what God wants you to say? He wants you to say, “If God is for me, who can be against me?”

If you knew that the President or the Prime Minister was for you, you might believe that everything will be okay. But you have an even better backing! The Bible tells us that God, the Almighty, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, is for you! What problem can fasten its grip on you when the Almighty God is for you? Can the devil come successfully against you with God on your side?

If God is for you today, if God is for you right now, you don’t have to moan, “If only I had this…If only I didn’t say that…” And you don’t have to worry about the future: “What if this happens…What if we don’t have enough…” My friend, regretting the past and worrying about the future won’t change anything.

Look to your heavenly Father, instead. Because He is for you at this present moment, you can be confident that He will help you and provide for you.

Beloved, God sent His Son to die for you. And Jesus gave you a blood-bought right to an abundant life full of meaning and purpose! He gave you a blood-bought right to walk in divine health all the days of your life! He gave you a blood-bought right to His supply even when the economy goes down!

You have all these things not because you deserve them, but because Jesus shed His blood and gave you the right to have them. All these blessings are yours today because God is for you! And if God is for you, who can be against you!


Psalm 103:2-5 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget none of His benefits;

[SUP]3 [/SUP] Who pardons all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases;

[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who redeems your life from the pit, Who crowns you with lovingkindness and compassion;

[SUP]5 [/SUP] Who satisfies your years with good things, So that your youth is renewed like the eagle.





Some of us live in a relatively safe countries and we are blessed to live out our lives here in peace so that we can be a blessing to others around the world.

1 Timothy 2:1-4 (KJV)
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I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.[/TD]
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God IS for us... there's no denying that. But God is not the ruler of this world (John 12:31). Instead, God Who is for us gave us this bit of advice :

James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

John 12:25
Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.


That feeling that you don't belong to this world? It's because you don't belong to this world. The fact that you suffer in it says you must be doing something right. If instead you feel comfy and at home here in this world... that's when you really need to start worrying.

 

[Grace777x70]

Amen!.......we are not OF this world...just IN it until we leave...good point....we will occupy under His Lordship until He comes..

Galatians 6:14 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

God IS for us... there's no denying that. But God is not the ruler of this world (John 12:31). Instead, God Who is for us gave us this bit of advice :

James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

John 12:25
Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.


That feeling that you don't belong to this world? It's because you don't belong to this world. The fact that you suffer in it says you must be doing something right. If instead you feel comfy and at home here in this world... that's when you really need to start worrying.

 

[ladylynn]

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[TD="colspan: 3, align: left"] Are you facing a lack in any area of your life, be it finances, health or relationships? Know that in that very same area, God has already prepared His superabundant supply which will abound toward you, and on top of that, His grace and more of His grace!

In John 6:1–13, Jesus was with a large crowd of people who were hungry. The problem then was a lack of food. But Jesus knew that where there is lack, there is superabundant supply in His Father’s kingdom to overcome that lack.

His disciples, however, did not know that. They did not think the same way as Jesus did. They told Him that there was a boy with five loaves and two small fish, but they did not think that that would amount to anything. They said, “What are the five loaves and two fish among so many?” (John 6:9)

They saw only the problem, the lack. But Jesus took the little, lifted it up as He looked to heaven and gave thanks to His Father, whose supply is so much more than we can ever ask for.

When Jesus started distributing the little that was in His hands, a miracle happened. Five thousand men, not counting women and children, ate as much as they wanted and for as long as they were hungry!

The supply kept flowing as long as the need was there. And after they were so filled, there were 12 baskets full of leftovers! That is God’s superabundant supply. In God’s kingdom, there is no such thing as the Father not having enough or not wanting to give abundantly to His children. No, He promises that He will supply all our needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus!

My friend, God wants us to always be conscious of His grace abounding toward us and enveloping us. So let us, like Jesus, acknowledge God’s superabundant supply by thanking Him for it and for whatever is in our hands. Let us believe that His superabundant supply will flow and multiply the little that we have, and fill us up to overflowing!

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[ladylynn]

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[TD="colspan: 3, align: left"] Are you facing a lack in any area of your life, be it finances, health or relationships? Know that in that very same area, God has already prepared His superabundant supply which will abound toward you, and on top of that, His grace and more of His grace!

In John 6:1–13, Jesus was with a large crowd of people who were hungry. The problem then was a lack of food. But Jesus knew that where there is lack, there is superabundant supply in His Father’s kingdom to overcome that lack.

His disciples, however, did not know that. They did not think the same way as Jesus did. They told Him that there was a boy with five loaves and two small fish, but they did not think that that would amount to anything. They said, “What are the five loaves and two fish among so many?” (John 6:9)

They saw only the problem, the lack. But Jesus took the little, lifted it up as He looked to heaven and gave thanks to His Father, whose supply is so much more than we can ever ask for.

When Jesus started distributing the little that was in His hands, a miracle happened. Five thousand men, not counting women and children, ate as much as they wanted and for as long as they were hungry!

The supply kept flowing as long as the need was there. And after they were so filled, there were 12 baskets full of leftovers! That is God’s superabundant supply. In God’s kingdom, there is no such thing as the Father not having enough or not wanting to give abundantly to His children. No, He promises that He will supply all our needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus!

My friend, God wants us to always be conscious of His grace abounding toward us and enveloping us. So let us, like Jesus, acknowledge God’s superabundant supply by thanking Him for it and for whatever is in our hands. Let us believe that His superabundant supply will flow and multiply the little that we have, and fill us up to overflowing!
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Destined To Reign devotional today

 

[ember]

Such great posts here...outta reps for where Id like to put em....will have to spread the joy I guess

The rep fairy is out of sprinkle dust