God loves the sinner and hates the sin.
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Mitspa
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Here is the only answer for all who have the fallen flesh and have been forever justified by faith in Jesus Christ.
Ro 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Ro 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Ro 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Ro 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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Sirk
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Jesus isn't enough for him....His promises, His love.. His acceptance, etc. To him...Jesus is this scary God that doesn't keep His promises unless we hold up our end of the bargain....which he then defines what our end of the bargain is on faulty theology and applies it to everyone else. He lives in a self made prison.
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Rosesrock
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What hurts my heart and makes me cringe with every post is how the enemy uses him one word at a time. Since day one ive prayed for Him. I believe God can reach Him as he did with each of us.
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Sirk
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What If I made my children perform to gain my acceptance...what if I made them fear that if they didn't repent for every tiny infraction that I would throw them out with the garbage. Just on the basis of what agape love really is and what it means...what it implies...Jason falls way far short in his assessment of who Jesus really is.
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Tankman131
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Y...you aren't supposed to trade performance for love with kids?
*goes back to the drawing board*
I just wanted to share with him on what it feels like to live in the Lord's grace.
Presenting scripture is completely useless. Circular arguments. So, once in awhile l try to connect with him on a flawed human level.
He hates that.
He will come back and say
"Do you have scripture to back up how you feel inside? In other words, if you don't become a robot, you will live in sin, and let sin dominate all sin that sins are sinning in. Anyways, you have no proof on how you feel"
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Rosesrock
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I agree, and i don't believe he even knows what he believes due to not answering specific questions about his own sin. When he does, he begins to think, (for himself) and he proceeds to skip posters asking direct questions. I believe he's blinded and controlled. But i do believe chiseling is good. Every truth is profitable. Run the race with patience. God is good.
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Sirk
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Ya...I try to connect with him on a human level too....it appears to be a fruitless effort. I know that in my own experience...only God can sometimes knock you off your pedestal....in His own way and in His own timing.
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Tankman131
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I know.
He tackles the Bible like its a cookbook.
There is a partial recipe in the Bible.
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]'You shall bring in from your dwelling places two loaves of bread for a wave offering, made of two-tenths of an ephah; they shall be of a fine flour, baked with leaven as first fruits to the LORD. -lev 23:17
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Rosesrock
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Dont get me wrong, the man frustrates the beegeebeez out of me, but i do believe in miracles, and im asking for one concerning him. I believe God wants to show His power. To us even, to strengthen us.
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Sirk
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Yup...I tell my kids all the time....if your rooms aren't clean...you don't have straight A's in school and if you eveen get mouthy with me.... I don't love you anymore and I'm sending you to china to be an organ donor.
You once told him, we need to get to the core of why you act this way, and THEN we will discuss scripture with you.
Something like that, of course you worded it a lot better. So true.
It was awesome, and l almost put it as my signature.
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Rosesrock
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Why am i not surprised you meanie, through fedex no less with no breathing holes....strict
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Sirk
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Sirk
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What gets me is why people want to spend so much time verbal jockeying on whether or not Adam and Eve had belly buttons and so therefore its a sin to have a bellybutton ring because we weren't originally made that way. Lol
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Rosesrock
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Sirk
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My wife had one before we got married. I told her I didn't really like em and so she took it out. Hows that for submission? Lol
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kennethcadwell
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What gets me is that people continue to look at this as one sided, even when they use human comparisons.
If you don't do this or do that I will not love you any less, however what they seem to fail at looking at, and even the bible shows this standard. That if the person choices themselves to walk away from God they are forfeiting their own salvation by choosing not to continue walking with the Lord as Apostle Paul clearly says we have to do in the faith.
Just like I know of situations where even though the parents raised the child to what they deemed was right, when the child became a young adult they disowned their parents and walked away from them never to talk to them or see them ever again.....
Same goes with salvation, if you choose to walk your own way instead of walk by faith/fruits of the Spirit/how the Lord said then you are not walking the narrow path. Apostle James clearly says a person who wanders away from walking in the faith, their soul is not saved unless they come back to the Lord (5:19-20).
If you don't do this or do that I will not love you any less, however what they seem to fail at looking at, and even the bible shows this standard. That if the person choices themselves to walk away from God they are forfeiting their own salvation by choosing not to continue walking with the Lord as Apostle Paul clearly says we have to do in the faith.
Just like I know of situations where even though the parents raised the child to what they deemed was right, when the child became a young adult they disowned their parents and walked away from them never to talk to them or see them ever again.....
Same goes with salvation, if you choose to walk your own way instead of walk by faith/fruits of the Spirit/how the Lord said then you are not walking the narrow path. Apostle James clearly says a person who wanders away from walking in the faith, their soul is not saved unless they come back to the Lord (5:19-20).
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Sirk
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Except that nobody here to my knowledge is choosing to walk away from God....so you're shadow boxing over in the corner all by yourself.