God or Guns?

[iog]

Psalm 20:6-9 (KJV)
Now know I that the Lord saveth his anointed; he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand.

[7] Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the Lord our God. [8] They are brought down and fallen: but we are risen, and stand upright.

[9] Save, Lord : let the king hear us when we call.

Trust Jesus

 

[MidniteWelder]

Mark 3:26-28 (KJV)
And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.

Thats right, so now you know satans mistake

dont beat yourself up over it

 

[loveme1]

Matthew 5

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Acts 7

When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. 55But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. 57Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, 58And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul. 59And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. 60And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

Matthew 5

And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

5Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

6Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

7Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

8Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

13Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

Psalm 62

<> Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation.
2He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved.

3How long will ye imagine mischief against a man? ye shall be slain all of you: as a bowing wall shall ye be, and as a tottering fence.

4They only consult to cast him down from his excellency: they delight in lies: they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly. Selah.

5My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him.

6He only is my rock and my salvation: he is my defence; I shall not be moved.

7In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.

8Trust in him at all times; ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Selah.

9Surely men of low degree are vanity, and men of high degree are a lie: to be laid in the balance, they are altogether lighter than vanity.

10Trust not in oppression, and become not vain in robbery: if riches increase, set not your heart upon them.

11God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.

12Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.

 

[Therapon]

Have it occurred to you that The USA is also Satan's kingdom as is all kingdom?

It would be exersize in futility to try to show you anything different. Come to think of it, it would probably be impossible lto show you anything different on any subject.

Fortunately, our God and His beloved Son Jesus are far more loving and merciful to fallen sinners like me than are some of the hell-fire and damnation Bible-thumpers on here.

 

[Therapon]

I knew it didn't look right <smile> "exercise" is a better spelling. It's 2:30 am here and my brain isn't working too well when it's this late, but I had work to do with our techie.

 

[webchatter]

Ever notice how so many pacifists are actually activists? The UN told Obama & Hillary to take our guns in 09.
Why? (upcoming new world order would be easier to enforce, in the USA.)
Europe already lost thiers, now they beat each other to a pulp on a regular basis.
We are restraining with the help of the Holy Spirit, a new world order which brings in the last antichrist.
People who didn't own a gun, went out & bought one after Obama said he would issue his own gun laws to violate the constitution. He intends on bypassing congress period, guess he thinks he's a dictator. Guess he doesn't need an amendment to the constitution passed either. For an ex lawyer who's not allowed to practice law anymore in the state of Illinois, & neither is his wife, he acts like he doesn't know anything about the law.
Point being, Obama & his bosses never once tried to take away the guns from people who owned them illegally. Gangs kill people every day inthe US. Why not start taking their guns 1st? They have not taken them from the felons either, who are not allowed to own one. Over 700 people tried to buy a gun who were not allowed to last year, & only 70 were charged.
Many years ago the police staked out my home because of a neighbor who was causing problems. The cops hid in the woods beside my home & spent the night. They caught the neighbor across the street running into my yard towards my front door,with an AR15 assault rifle, (at 6 am), while my family & I slept. The cops nabbed him & sent him home & never charged him, even though it's against the law to tresspass, & crossing a property line with any gun is against the law, he was not charged with anything.
More recently, last year, a different neighbor's wife saw me outside with an old Windex squirt bottle spraying on my yard in a spot or two. An hour later her husband knocks on my door & has a gun. He's angry that his wife told him I was spraying something in my yard & he wanted to know what it was. He said, "If my dog gets sick from whatever you are spraying, I'm here to tell you we are gonna have problems." I showed him what I had squirted on my yard in a couple spots & that it was harmless to dogs, & he told me the same threatening line again. #1-what's it any of his business what I do on my own property? I never invited his dog over in the 1st place, or him, or his wife.
I called the police as soon as he left. The police show up & the man is on someone else's property with a pair of shorts on & a holster on the outside of his shorts, t shirt tucked in, & a waist belt with a gun in the holster on his hip, over the top of his shorts. The police did not arrest him for being on my property or the other person's property with a gun, which is a crime. Then when he saw the cop was knocking on his door, he left the other neighbor's yard & began walking toward the police with his gun. They never arrested him. (although they did stick a gun in his face till he put the gun on the ground).
This is the problem in the US. The mentally ill also have access. Etc etc. The laws we have had on the books for years are rarely enforced by federal govt, state, city or county govt police. This isn't the law abiding citizen's faults. We need guns to protect ourselves from the criminals & crazies the cops don't want to deal with.
Our govt refuses to police our borders & now Mexican gangs bring guns into the US they bought from other countries. We need our guns to protect our freedom from a dictatorship or oppressive government, per the constitution "tyranny".
We need them for protection during the upcoming planned economic collapse of the USA.
If the government really cared about the gun violence in this country, they would have disarmed the American gangs years ago, & stopped the infux of Mexican guns at our borders.The criminals will never turn in their guns.
The intent of Obama's order for gun confiscation will START with law abiding REGISTERED gun owners, because it is not his intent to control gun VIOLENCE. If that was his intent, they would start confiscating weapons from criminals, they know where the gang members live. Every local jurisdiction has a gang task force within the police dept.The mentally ill can be added to the current list of those not allowed to purchase weapons. Police can enfoce the laws we already have. This would reduce greatly, gun violence.We may get it in spurts. 1st the AR15's, then whatever, then something else til all guns are gone. The fema camps are ready to house registered gun owners. Maybe the next president will take the last of our guns, but Obama will start the 1st step soon.

 

[iog]

[h=3]2 Timothy 3[/h]
1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
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2 [/SUP]For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
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3 [/SUP]Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
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4 [/SUP]Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
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5 [/SUP]Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
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6 [/SUP]For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
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7 [/SUP]Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.


[SUP]10 [/SUP]But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

[SUP]11 [/SUP]Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me

Jesus delivered Paul

 

[iog]

It would be exersize in futility to try to show you anything different. Come to think of it, it would probably be impossible lto show you anything different on any subject.

Fortunately, our God and His beloved Son Jesus are far more loving and merciful to fallen sinners like me than are some of the hell-fire and damnation Bible-thumpers on here.

let the bible show me.

all you have to do is copy and paste the correct verse.

 

[iog]

what we have is emotionalism.


America is part of Satan's kingdom, we have this problem that we are better than everyone else


satan told the Lord [h=3]Luke 4:5-7[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.


satan is a liar and a murderer, what wil his kingdoms consist of.


liar and murderers

 

[iog]

people think Jesus is coming with a literal sword, NO. it is the words of his mouth that will slay the people.



Revelation 19:
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14 [/SUP]And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.


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15 [/SUP]And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a
rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
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16 [/SUP]And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
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21 [/SUP]And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

 

[iog]

Jeremiah 7:22-24

King James Version (KJV)

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22 [/SUP]For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:
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23 [/SUP]But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
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24 [/SUP]But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.


Jude 1:10-12

King James Version (KJV)

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10 [/SUP]But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
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11 [/SUP]Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
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12 [/SUP]These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

 

[iog]

1 John 3:12Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

 

[iog]

Titus 2
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
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12 [/SUP]Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world

guns are worldly lust

 

[iog]

The only weapon we are commanded to keep or have is the WORD OF GOD

Ephesians 6:17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

CHRISTIAN!

 

[zone]

iog...you've pretty much convinced me.

with the exception of defending the innocent.
which is what i said to begin with.
don't bother posting anything you think says i hand my kids over to the bad guys.

 

[iog]

iog...you've pretty much convinced me.

with the exception of defending the innocent.
which is what i said to begin with.
don't bother posting anything you think says i hand my kids over to the bad guys.

i have not convinced you of anything, keep in mind all i really do is copy and paste.

what you are to do with the children is this and again i will copy and paste

Leviticus 10

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;

[SUP]11 [/SUP]And that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the Lord hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.

Deuteronomy 4

[SUP]8 [/SUP]And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?
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9 [/SUP]Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons;

10 specially the day that thou stoodest before the Lord thy God in Horeb, when the Lord said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.

Deuteronomy 11:19

And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

we are to teach our children about the mark of the beast, the great tribulation, the anti-Christ, world government.
we also teach them the laws of God and that they will be persecuted for God and that you may die in front of them for not taking a mark or obeying the word of God.

they as well as us will be persecuted for God name sake

 

[iog]

iog...you've pretty much convinced me.

with the exception of defending the innocent.
which is what i said to begin with.
don't bother posting anything you think says i hand my kids over to the bad guys.

the Lord said

Romans 5:6-8

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]6 [/SUP]For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

is there innocense?
[h=3]Matthew 19:16-18[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 5:12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

who is innocent nowadays?

let the Lord do his job and defend his servants

 

[iog]

let the Lord do his job

Numbers 11:23And the Lord said unto Moses, Is the Lord'S hand waxed short? thou shalt see now whether my word shall come to pass unto thee or not.

Joshua 4:24
That all the people of the earth might know the hand of the Lord, that it is mighty: that ye might fear the Lord your God for ever.

Judges 2:15
Whithersoever they went out, the hand of the Lord was against them for evil, as the Lord had said, and as the Lord had sworn unto them: and they were greatly distressed

Proverbs 21:1The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.

 

[iog]

Proverbs 21:1
The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.



who are you fighting against when you go against the ruler?

 

[iog]

• Ephesians 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.