God or Guns?

[PS]

nonsense.
people hate The Cross.

your little SQUARE MILE is the headquarters for ALL OF THIS CHAOS.
and everybody knows it.

mind you, we have a family up here that calls the shots too.
same bunch.

What on earth are you on about?

 

[zone]

I understand what it means
Moses was the meekess man upon the earth and a meek moses carried a staff and not a weapon
the meek man will rely on God's strength he is under God's control
a meek man will tolerate anything and everything even bullying and intimidation.

Jesus was spit upon and beaten I wonder if today's christians willtake a beating like the Lord or allow someone to spit upon them without blasting the persons face off


the strength is not in a weapon
the strength is not in emotions

answer this question: WILL YOU STAND BY AND WATCH AN INNOCENT KID BE KICKED TO DEATH BY A PUNK GANG FOR JESUS?

 

[iog]

I would injure them if I thought they were intent on injuring others to steal. perhaps after I tied them up I would ask them why they felt the need to steal at all as we wait for the authorities to arrive.

perhaps we could discuss other legal ways for them to obtain their goals without resorting to crime.

I would show the 25 year old that stealing cell phones could be harmful for their health and detain them until the police arrived.

rather I used a gun or not would depend on the situation.

anger or fear tends to mess up your aim.

Love isn't letting people get away with doing whatever they want. Its teaching them the wisdom of following God's will.

allowing someone to steal from you sends the wrong message: they don't need to work for what they want, they can just take it with no immediate consequences.

manners and respect for others goes a long way. IF he was starving, I would expect an apology and then give him food and allow him to go his way. However if all he wanted was a cell phone, I would feel inclined to teach him manners and the value of hard work.

Exodus 20:15 “You shall not steal.

Leviticus 19:11 ‘You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.

1. Deuteronomy 5:19 ‘You shall not steal.
2. Proverbs 6:30 People do not despise a thief If he steals to satisfy himself when he is starving.

love is Jesus
evil is satan

we get back to the spiritual fight

we wrestle not with flesh and blood

Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

[Abiding]

I understand what it means
Moses was the meekess man upon the earth and a meek moses carried a staff and not a weapon
the meek man will rely on God's strength he is under God's control
a meek man will tolerate anything and everything even bullying and intimidation.

Jesus was spit upon and beaten I wonder if today's christians willtake a beating like the Lord or allow someone to spit upon them without blasting the persons face off


the strength is not in a weapon
the strength is not in emotions

this is called handling the word of God deceitfully.
Use a context that talks about self defense if thats the intent.
Or you may as well use quotes from goldilocks.

 

[psychomom]

I's all this talk of killing and murder. People here say if that's Christianity they want nothing to do with it.

first of all---stuff and nonsense.
zone is right---people hate the Cross.
if the Truth isn't revealed by God, no one gets it.
does it make you feel better to blame the US Constitution?

and those of us who actually live here aren't talking of killing and murder.
you are.

 

[PS]

your statement is illogical and just plan awful.

1. she never said guns don't kill.

I on the other hands said you can shoot someone without killing them but if you have a gun you should keep that option open if it becomes necessary to keep someone from kill other innocents. the sacrifice of one life for the sake of many.

2. even if she did make the innane statement that "guns don't kill" (as if anyone would say that) than how do you get that he/she would not "mind if they get banned"?

that doesn't make any sense. the whole statements were how guns could be used to help keep law and order.

you seem fixated on how guns kills but others in the world can see the bigger picture.

She did, she said guns and a piece of paper, meaning the second amendment, don't kill. This is the sort of illogically we are getting.

 

[zone]

lol.

just stand behind us, Abiding.

'specially if our kiddos are behind us!

i don't have a gun, but scratching faces, gouging eyes...whatever it takes is what i'll do if someone threatens the safety and welfare of my little girls.
can't help it...that 'mama bear' instinct is God given.

apparently God didn't give the Brit men a papa bear instinct.
just roll over and close your eyes and let the bad guy take your kids - for Jesus.

 

[Abiding]

love is Jesus
evil is satan

we get back to the spiritual fight

we wrestle not with flesh and blood

Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

again put the spiritual armor back in its context.
or just stop quoting from scripture

 

[zone]

She did, she said guns and a piece of paper, meaning the second amendment, don't kill. This is the sort of illogically we are getting.

PS....i have all day to drag out the real stats on your country.
your crime stats, and who is calling the shots on all this stuff....in countries where things are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

might as well.

it seems important to you.

 

[PS]

answer this question: WILL YOU STAND BY AND WATCH AN INNOCENT KID BE KICKED TO DEATH BY A PUNK GANG FOR JESUS?

Of course I wouldn't stand by. I wouldn't use excessive violence like a gun either.

 

[psychomom]

apparently God didn't give the Brit men a papa bear instinct.
just roll over and close your eyes and let the bad guy take your kids - for Jesus.

cuz that will surely bolster the children's faith in God.

 

[CDavid]

Did you here the story of the KKK member, who came into an all black church in Pascagoula, Miss. one Sunday morning, carrying a hunting rifle and two hand guns.
He began shooting out the stained glass windows, then he zeroed in on the pianist.
The preacher, a licensed concealed carry, took him out with one shot.
The pianist is fine, no members were physically harmed.

Stories like this never hit the news.

God bless you all

 

[iog]

You think your faith alone will obligate God to save your skin? Why? I mean certainly
i say trust Him, but in no way do u require Him to do what you want.

Heres some that were commended for their faith:

5 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. 37 They were stoned; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated-- 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground. 39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. 40 God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

Hebrews 11 is about faith in God and his word in which these people died

what we have today is the faith in a weapon to protect marterial wealth and family?

it is written

Deuteronomy 6:5
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

any room left for anything else

no exception

if you love the Lord Jesus said keep his commandments

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.


most gun advocate are not suffering for the sake of Jesus or his word

 

[PS]

PS....i have all day to drag out the real stats on your country.
your crime stats, and who is calling the shots on all this stuff....in countries where things are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

might as well.

it seems important to you.

You would prove is that violence is epidemic which we know anyway. Don't you think as Christians we should be looking for solutions?

 

[iog]

Did you here the story of the KKK member, who came into an all black church in Pascagoula, Miss. one Sunday morning, carrying a hunting rifle and two hand guns.
He began shooting out the stained glass windows, then he zeroed in on the pianist.
The preacher, a licensed concealed carry, took him out with one shot.
The pianist is fine, no members were physically harmed.

Stories like this never hit the news.

God bless you all

i wonder why this evil man entered in a so-call house of the Lord

lets read

Amos 3:6
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?


we need to focus on why did the Lord send him there.

 

[psychomom]

most gun advocate are not suffering for the sake of Jesus or his word

wow.
you personally know most gun advocates!

that's amazing.

 

[iog]

again put the spiritual armor back in its context.
or just stop quoting from scripture

its in context
you just won't except the facts!

 

[PS]

first of all---stuff and nonsense.
zone is right---people hate the Cross.
if the Truth isn't revealed by God, no one gets it.
does it make you feel better to blame the US Constitution?

and those of us who actually live here aren't talking of killing and murder.
you are.

Is it true that American Christians? blew up an abortion clinic and killed a doctor?

 

[99caravan]

Guns are simply tools used for killing. A good use for guns is for hunting. Do people use 44 magnum handguns for hunting, no. I am from Canada so for me, I think it is a stupid idea for americans to go shopping with handguns, or driving with handguns. Do you know how easy it is to get angry when someone cuts you off in traffic? I curse them to death sometimes, and then I realise that it was just a mistake perhaps, then repent. The flesh is weak and prone to anger and bursts of rage... if you have a gun handy, and you have to assume that the other person has a gun, then fear and emotion can easily elevate to a shootout... in the parking lot of a grocery store!!!! Why would you be packing a gun to get milk! It amazes me that the mantra of safety is the reason why you people can carry guns, but so many more people get killed in your country because the guns are so readily accessible. Without guns, perhaps a physical confrontation and assault may occur in the worst of cases, but no one gets killed.
Is God against guns??? I would say he is mute on the point... if you want guns you go get them, but someone may get killed as a consequence.

 

[PS]

Did you here the story of the KKK member, who came into an all black church in Pascagoula, Miss. one Sunday morning, carrying a hunting rifle and two hand guns.
He began shooting out the stained glass windows, then he zeroed in on the pianist.
The preacher, a licensed concealed carry, took him out with one shot.
The pianist is fine, no members were physically harmed.

Stories like this never hit the news.

God bless you all

And if guns were crushed, it couldn't have happened. People need to think these things through.