God`s 3 Prophetic Days.

[Blain]

I just did, it is not about wich nation you are from, is about whether you work righteous or not. Whosoever works righteousness is accepted of Him:

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

True Jew is in Spirit and in Truth:

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

"His people" in heaven are from all nations:

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.


Rapture happend at His Second Coming which was "Immediately after the Tribulation". Wedding of the Lamb was a meal with the saints, after the judgement of Mystery Babylon, it marks the beggining of the Millenial Reign on earth.

I see thank you for clarifying your stance on the matter. To be honest I am a bit disappointed because at least if you believed in a mid or post tribulation view you would not only prepare yourself for what is to come but also have the rapture and the wedding to look forward to in your heart but it seems you believe they already happened when I can tell you that I was personally shown the rapture many times in both dreams and visions as well as the wedding of the lamb in the vision i even was being fitted for my wedding gown and drank from a golden cup there is name for those kind of cups at wedding i just remember it it was filled with sweet wine and they had to stop me because it was so good i just wanted to gulp it all down fast

Just recently i was given a dream where God gave me a new set of cloathing and said to me soon, my friend I know I cannot change your opinion on the matter sadly you will likely have to find out the hard way when the tribulation begins which isn't to far off

 

[DanielLL]

my wedding gown and drank from a golden cup

I still look forward to "my wedding", Im just saying it is not THE wedding that we were talking about, during the Millenial Reign.
My wedding hasn't happened already. I still look forward to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Life.

 

[Marilyn]

Fulfilled when True Israel received the Spirit at Pentecost:

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

The Spirit was poured upon "all flesh", all nations, even Greeks:

Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This is the True Nation of Israel, not a Nation after the flesh, but after the Spirit:

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

You have shown where on the day of Pentecost the Lord poured out His Spirit. Those who have received down through the centuries are `set` in the Body of Christ. (1 Cor. 12: 18) They are the `ekklessia,` called OUT of Israel and the nations.

When the Body of Christ has come to full maturity of truth in Christ, (Eph. 4: 13) it will be taken to its eternal setting in glory. (Rev. 3: 21)

Then God`s purpose for Israel and the nations will continue and be fulfilled. (Zech. 12 - 14.)

The people of the Great multitude are still nations. They are NOT in the Body of Christ. They will have an earthly inheritance. (Rev. 21: 24)

 

[Marilyn]

I thought it was for born again christians

You may have been taught that, but it is not scriptural. Men are not female, a `bride.`

 

[Blain]

I still look forward to "my wedding", Im just saying it is not THE wedding that we were talking about, during the Millenial Reign.
My wedding hasn't happened already. I still look forward to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Life.

There is only one wedding of the lamb what wedding are you refering to?

 

[DanielLL]

Body of Christ.

Jesus Christ is and Israelite of True Israel, therefore whosoever abides in Him, is also an Israelite of True Israel. The "Body of Christ" is a Body of a True Israelite. Jesus is One with His Church, so you can't seperate them in Israelite or not Israelite, If Jesus is an Israelite, so is His Body.

When the Body of Christ has come to full maturity of truth in Christ

Are you saying Christ has an "immature" Body?

The people of the Great multitude are still nations. They are NOT in the Body of Christ. They will have an earthly inheritance. (Rev. 21: 24)

The saved people who were in heaven are not the Body of Christ? What are they? And how did they got saved outside of Christ?
Just because they will inherit the earth, doesn't mean they are not in Him. Quite the contrary.

 

[DanielLL]

There is only one wedding of the lamb what wedding are you refering to?

I was refering to His wedding after the Judgement of Mystery Babylon:
Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

After the Great Tribulation, when there were a lot of corpses, and the birds were called to feast on the dead flesh:

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

This was His Wedding, you were the one who called it "my wedding", I just went with it:

my wedding

When I said "my wedding" I was talking about eating of the tree of Life, I guess it is not a "wedding" so to speak:

Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Luke 14:15 And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.

So, I think you would agree with me, Jesus is already married to His Church, right? Proving His wedding already happend, after the Tribulation. Now all we have to do is be part of His Church, abide in Him, that is, keep His commandments. Now there is no "waiting period" like the saints had before the wedding of the Lamb, during the Tribulation:

Revelation 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

 

[pottersclay]

You may have been taught that, but it is not scriptural. Men are not female, a `bride.`

Oh ok guess i wasnt thinking..

 

[Marilyn]

Jesus Christ is and Israelite of True Israel, therefore whosoever abides in Him, is also an Israelite of True Israel. The "Body of Christ" is a Body of a True Israelite. Jesus is One with His Church, so you can't seperate them in Israelite or not Israelite, If Jesus is an Israelite, so is His Body.


Are you saying Christ has an "immature" Body?


The saved people who were in heaven are not the Body of Christ? What are they? And how did they got saved outside of Christ?
Just because they will inherit the earth, doesn't mean they are not in Him. Quite the contrary.

Hi DanieILL,

1, So are you saying that God made the nation of Israel, worked with them for over a thousand years and then because they were carnal wiped that idea away? Was that an oops of God, making a wrong plan?

2. That is a logical question. In Eph. 4: 13 we read - `till we all come to the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the fullness of Christ.``
The Gk word is `teleios` meaning complete, growth in mental and moral character.

And the rest of the scripture tells us more - `that was should no longer be children tossed to and fro and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness by which they lie in wait t deceive, but speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the Head - Christ....` (Eph. 4: 14 & 15)

3. Those people in heaven are - those in the Body of Christ and the righteous, (just) people of the OT.

`You have come to Mount Zion ....to the General Assembly and church of the first born....and to the spirits of just men made perfect.` (Heb. 12: 22 & 23)

The saints of the Old Testament are `saved` from judgment because they believed in faith what God promised them - a city. (Heb. 11: 16) They are BEFORE THE CROSS, however they are saved primarily because of what Christ would do, not that they knew that.

God only required that they believed on Him and for what He promised them as an inheritance. They cannot be IN Christ because He hadn`t died and are NOT `set` in the Body. They however have a place in God`s great kingdom - the New Jerusalem. (Heb. 11: 16)

 

[Blain]

I was refering to His wedding after the Judgement of Mystery Babylon:
Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

After the Great Tribulation, when there were a lot of corpses, and the birds were called to feast on the dead flesh:

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

This was His Wedding, you were the one who called it "my wedding", I just went with it:


When I said "my wedding" I was talking about eating of the tree of Life, I guess it is not a "wedding" so to speak:

Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Luke 14:15 And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.

So, I think you would agree with me, Jesus is already married to His Church, right? Proving His wedding already happend, after the Tribulation. Now all we have to do is be part of His Church, abide in Him, that is, keep His commandments. Now there is no "waiting period" like the saints had before the wedding of the Lamb, during the Tribulation:

Revelation 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Firstly I would appreciate it if you would not take my words out of context I did not say my wedding i never once called it my wedding i said my wedding gown there is a difference and as for the rest of your post even with all you posted my question remains unanswered. see according to you the wedding of the lamb already happened unless I am mistaken and misunderstood you if that is the case then I apologize but if I am to understand you correctly then if it happened already then what other wedding is there than the wedding of the lamb and what does eating from the tree of life have to do with this particular wedding and what is this wedding called if not the wedding of the lamb?

 

[DanielLL]

1, So are you saying that God made the nation of Israel, worked with them for over a thousand years and then because they were carnal wiped that idea away? Was that an oops of God, making a wrong plan?

The carnal Israel was the house that brought David, and Jesus. When Jesus came, Israel was made up of all nations, even the Greeks as I have shown you, Cornelius receive the Spirit.

They cannot be IN Christ because He hadn`t died and are NOT `set` in the Body.

They are in Christ, this is after the Cross:

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

The peoples of all nations were people who washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb. After the Cross.

other wedding

There is no other "wedding of the Lamb". He marries His Church once and forever.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

There is no other "wedding of the Lamb". He marries His Church once and forever.

This might be a buzzkill, but the truth is, as I said in my thread, His wife is the 144,000 remnants of Israelites, that much is determined; we are the GUESTS to His wedding, whoever accepts His invitation is welcome to the party. Just take a look at these two key verse:

"... the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready." (Rev. 19:7)

"Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!" (Rev. 19:9)

We are not born to be Christians, but CALLED to Him. Listen to this calling or not, that's an individual choice. That's why Jesus often said in His parables: "many are called, but few are chosen."

 

[DanielLL]

144,000 remnants of Israelites

-There is a "great multitude" of "all nations" who were in white robes:

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

-The next time we see "white robes" is in His Church:

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

So, the connection is made, from the great multitude of "all nations" to the Bride of Christ, they both have white robes.

 

[Blain]

The carnal Israel was the house that brought David, and Jesus. When Jesus came, Israel was made up of all nations, even the Greeks as I have shown you, Cornelius receive the Spirit.


They are in Christ, this is after the Cross:

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

The peoples of all nations were people who washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb. After the Cross.


There is no other "wedding of the Lamb". He marries His Church once and forever.

So you agree then that it has not yet occurred?

 

[Marilyn]

The carnal Israel was the house that brought David, and Jesus. When Jesus came, Israel was made up of all nations, even the Greeks as I have shown you, Cornelius receive the Spirit.


.

So are you saying the only reason for God making the nation of Israel was for people like David and Jesus?

God could have easily had David etc and Jesus without having a Israel as a nation. They were born as a man. God didn`t have to prophecy they would be born of Israel. God could have just had them born.

To wipe out a nation because they are carnal leaves all of us without excuse. Now remember that nation of Israel, though still carnal is still on this earth. If God had mercy on us carnal people, why wont He have mercy of the nation of Israel whom He made for a specific purpose - not just for individuals but for a NATIONAL reason.

 

[DanielLL]

So you agree then that it has not yet occurred?

No, the wedding of the Lamb has already occured.

God could have easily had David etc and Jesus without having a Israel as a nation. They were born as a man. God didn`t have to prophecy they would be born of Israel. God could have just had them born.

Not the "only" reason but surely it was one reason for it. We know He chose Israel, and did prophecy about Israel, He also chose His Holy Mountain, and gave the land to Abraham because of his faith. So, maybe it was the man with the most faith at the time, and God rewarded them and multiplied them.

why wont He have mercy of the nation of Israel whom He made for a specific purpose - not just for individuals but for a NATIONAL reason.

He will have mercy on any nation, whosoever worketh righteousness is accepted of Him.

 

[Blain]

No, the wedding of the Lamb has already occured.

Not the "only" reason but surely it was one reason for it. We know He chose Israel, and did prophecy about Israel, He also chose His Holy Mountain, and gave the land to Abraham because of his faith. So, maybe it was the man with the most faith at the time, and God rewarded them and multiplied them.

He will have mercy on any nation, whosoever worketh righteousness is accepted of Him.

So then you are in the belief that most of bible prophecy has already come to pass then?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

-There is a "great multitude" of "all nations" who were in white robes:

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

-The next time we see "white robes" is in His Church:

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

So, the connection is made, from the great multitude of "all nations" to the Bride of Christ, they both have white robes.

"White robes" is the heavenly uniform, the garment of righteousness. It's mandatory for everyone who's accepted into heaven. Jesus rebuked the Laodicea Church in Rev. 3:18 - "I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed;" This "white robe" is the bare minimum, not the bride's wedding gown.

 

[DanielLL]

This "white robe" is the bare minimum, not the bride's wedding gown.

Bare minimum? what is the gown of the 144000? There is no other gown written, only the "white robes", or "garments"
The bride's wedding gown is white:

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

It is also clean, like the great multitude of all nation, who washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb, and made them white:

Revalation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

So, why does it say the righteousness of the saints? There are saints from all nations. The Word didn't specify, it were only the 144000, so we can't assume that. And there is no reason for it, there is a clear connection to the white robes of the great multitude of all nations.

 

[Marilyn]

Bare minimum? what is the gown of the 144000? There is no other gown written, only the "white robes", or "garments"
The bride's wedding gown is white:

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

It is also clean, like the great multitude of all nation, who washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb, and made them white:

Revalation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

So, why does it say the righteousness of the saints? There are saints from all nations. The Word didn't specify, it were only the 144000, so we can't assume that. And there is no reason for it, there is a clear connection to the white robes of the great multitude of all nations.

As you quoted -

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

The `her,` is the WIFE - `Let US be glad and rejoice and give glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His WIFE has made herself ready.` (Rev. 19: 7)

The WIFE is Israel to who God has betrothed forever, (Hosea 2: 19 & 20). They rebelled, God divorced them, and later He will again`marry` connect with them again.

The Body of Christ is the `US,` represented by the 24 Elders.