God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

[Hakawaka]

I got another chart:

*you are here ------------------- *Jesus returns

 

[Omegatime]

The day and hour of the rapture is completely unknown to everyone but the Trinity.
The critical aspect of this feature is that Satan and his host do not nor ever can know.
It is one of God's trump cards so to speak.

And of course it matches the precept of the Jewish wedding ritual, the midnight cry, where the Bride does not know the extract time that the Groom will show up to "snatch" her to the Fathers house. But she knows it will happen soon and inevitably, and that she needs to be pure and holy and......prepared.

Furthermore, Jesus is speaking about THE DAY OF THE LORD (SPECIFIALLY APPOINTED TO ISRAEL and its national repentance) in Matt 24......NOT the rapture.

Therefore, the last 3 fall feasts, which have yet to take place, are specific to the Nation Israel, the FEAST OF TRUMPETS = the start of DOTL, and the tribulation appointed to Israel. And THEN their national repentance which correlates to THE DAY OF ATONEMENT. And THEN of course the Millennial reign which correlates to the FEAST OF TABERNACLES, where God is tabernacling with men.

We, the Church have been raptured BEFORE the DOTL ever begins.

Lev 23
23 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 24 “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall observe a day of solemn rest, a memorial proclaimed with blast of trumpets, a holy convocation. 25 You shall not do any ordinary work, and you shall present a food offering to the Lord.”

"Yes, Jesus did more than hint. He used the phrase the Jews associated with the Feast of Trumpets, " But of that day and hour knoweth no man" (Matt. 24:36). When they heard those words the disciples would immediately have made the association with the Feast of Trumpets.

"Because the first day of the month had to be validated by the two (or three) witnesses, it affected the time for attending the holy convocation for the Day of Trumpets. The Hebrews could not know exactly on which day it would be held as they were waiting for the appearance of the new moon. "

And of the 7 appointed times, the Moedim, the feasts of Moses, ONLY THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS occurs on the FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH.

So IMO the DOTL coincides with the Feast of Trumpets.....that is prophetic for ISRAEL and not the Church.

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Then why did Apostle Peter call it---the Great and Glorious Day of the Lord?? In Acts 2

Trumpets are used for many reasons.

DOTL represents the 1000 year reign of the Lord

There is only one feast that couldnt be planned in the days of Yeshua--and that was Pentecost. It is the only feast not set by the calendar. Today the jews have a set day ( Sivan 6th ) but this isnt the Lord's doing but man

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Trump was just shot on stage

 

[Marilyn]

The day of the lord ends this creation

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

….Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:10-13‬ ‭

“For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:2-3‬ ‭KJ

Do you notice how this is creating an image in our minds of the heaven and earth ending in a blaze of fire when the lord comes but promises a new world ?

He’s been saying that a very long time 700 years before jesus came to earth

“The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate:

…. The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:5-6, 20-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The day of the lord is a consistent theme referencing the second coming of Christ

“and to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;”
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭1:7-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That fire they are talking about comes when the lord returns from heaven to judge all people

“the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:”

“the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The tribulation was about the desolation of Israel and the destruction of the city and temple in 70 ad we’re waiting for Jesus to return

I agree that the Day of the Lord is a consistent theme referring to the second coming of the Lord to earth to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious.

The Day of the Lord includes the trib, AND the millennium. Notice the words `in which` referring to the heavens and earth passing away at the end of the millennium, but IN the Day of the Lord.

The word `Day` in Hebrew and Greek refers to a period of time and an actual day. Both are in scripture.

 

[Marilyn]

The day and hour of the rapture is completely unknown to everyone but the Trinity.
The critical aspect of this feature is that Satan and his host do not nor ever can know.
It is one of God's trump cards so to speak.

And of course it matches the precept of the Jewish wedding ritual, the midnight cry, where the Bride does not know the extract time that the Groom will show up to "snatch" her to the Fathers house. But she knows it will happen soon and inevitably, and that she needs to be pure and holy and......prepared.

Furthermore, Jesus is speaking about THE DAY OF THE LORD (SPECIFIALLY APPOINTED TO ISRAEL and its national repentance) in Matt 24......NOT the rapture.

Therefore, the last 3 fall feasts, which have yet to take place, are specific to the Nation Israel, the FEAST OF TRUMPETS = the start of DOTL, and the tribulation appointed to Israel. And THEN their national repentance which correlates to THE DAY OF ATONEMENT. And THEN of course the Millennial reign which correlates to the FEAST OF TABERNACLES, where God is tabernacling with men.

We, the Church have been raptured BEFORE the DOTL ever begins.

Lev 23
23 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 24 “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall observe a day of solemn rest, a memorial proclaimed with blast of trumpets, a holy convocation. 25 You shall not do any ordinary work, and you shall present a food offering to the Lord.”

"Yes, Jesus did more than hint. He used the phrase the Jews associated with the Feast of Trumpets, " But of that day and hour knoweth no man" (Matt. 24:36). When they heard those words the disciples would immediately have made the association with the Feast of Trumpets.

"Because the first day of the month had to be validated by the two (or three) witnesses, it affected the time for attending the holy convocation for the Day of Trumpets. The Hebrews could not know exactly on which day it would be held as they were waiting for the appearance of the new moon. "

And of the 7 appointed times, the Moedim, the feasts of Moses, ONLY THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS occurs on the FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH.

So IMO the DOTL coincides with the Feast of Trumpets.....that is prophetic for ISRAEL and not the Church.

I didn`t say `day or hour,` just month IF it is next year. Big difference there. Remember God says you shall SEE the Day approaching. (Heb. 10: 25)

yes, the time is for Israel, (we agree) however, we are not in that time so we go before that as shown in the diagram.

 

[Marilyn]

Trump was just shot on stage

Shot in the ear.

 

[Marilyn]

No he has not. THIS CONTRADICTS WHAT CHRIST SAID ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE RAPTURE. Do I need to quote those verses?

And Omegatime has fallen into the same trap of date-setting. Will people ever learn? The Millerites set a date for the Second Coming of Christ, and when that did not happen, they changed their doctrines. So when these date come and nothing happens (or the Rapture occurs at another date ahead of these predictions) what are you going to do?

Where is the date? All I wrote was a month it could be if next year according to Israel`s Feast of Purim - Adar 15th.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Where is the date? All I wrote was a month it could be if next year according to Israel`s Feast of Purim - Adar 15th.

How do you know that this is so? Did Christ even hint at any feast or month or date in Matthew 24-25?

 

[Omegatime]

I agree that the Day of the Lord is a consistent theme referring to the second coming of the Lord to earth to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious.

The Day of the Lord includes the trib, AND the millennium. Notice the words `in which` referring to the heavens and earth passing away at the end of the millennium, but IN the Day of the Lord.

The word `Day` in Hebrew and Greek refers to a period of time and an actual day. Both are in scripture.

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DOTL only includes the Bowl *vial ) judgements for 1185 days or about 3.3 years IMO

 

[Omegatime]

How do you know that this is so? Did Christ even hint at any feast or month or date in Matthew 24-25?

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Not true Nehemiah 6.

What about the Fig tree?? Matthew 24:32-35

You know summer is near!

When do the fig tree gets it's leaves??---Springtime!!

Sounds like Pentecost to me!

 

[Marilyn]

How do you know that this is so? Did Christ even hint at any feast or month or date in Matthew 24-25?

Yes, God wrote His word and gave Israel its feasts. Esther`s Purim has yet to be fulfilled - Adar 15th. It is Israel`s National Celebration over its enemies. As that is yet future, and has a date, we can count back to the beginning of Daniel`s 70th week. Then obviously the Body of Christ is NOT in that time so we are before that.

Joel 2 gives the beginning of the Day (period of time) of the LORD, when the northern great army comes down to the mountains of Israel, So, we are before that. Just check out the diagram again.

BTW Matt. 24 is for Israel`s future.

 

[Marilyn]

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DOTL only includes the Bowl *vial ) judgements for 1185 days or about 3.3 years IMO

The Day of the LORD (period of time) is written about a lot in the OT. It is the final 7 years of Israel`s chastisement. (Dan. 9: 24 -27)

 

[cv5]

The Day of the Lord includes the trib, AND the millennium.

Agreed. And yes there is no time limit to the DOTL.

 

[cv5]

I didn`t say `day or hour,` just month

Certainly seems plausible.

By the way the Feast of Trumpets linkage to the tribulation has a correlation with the trumpets at Jericho. Six times the Israelites circled Jericho with a final 7th day crescendo of trumpets where the walls came tumbling down. Which concatenate's with the Second Coming, and the destruction of the old world order.

There are many sevens in Joshua chapter 6. Not a coincidence.

 

[cv5]

The Day of the Lord – Festival Seasons.

During the Day of the LORD God will fulfill His festival seasons. We will look at two Festivals that have dates to help us with God`s Appointed Time of the Rapture.

The Festival of Lights, (Hanukkah).

The Jews celebrate the expulsion of their enemies and were to light a new candle for each of eight days. However, at the time they only had one day`s worth of consecrated oil but it burnt for eight full days, the time required to consecrate more oil. Thus, Israel commemorates the miracle of the Temple`s holy candelabrum.

It is celebrated on the 25th of Kislev through to the 2nd of Tevet, 8 days. It was at this Feast that the Jews wanted to know if Jesus was the Messiah. (John 10: 22 – 24)

When Jesus returns to deliver Israel, it will be at this time, for He is the Light of the world, the One represented by the center of the holy candelabrum.

Israel`s National Deliverance Celebration. (Purim)

This Feast celebrates the failure of Haman`s plot to destroy the Jews. It is a time of feasting and joy when the people celebrate the deliverance of the Jews from death through the bravery of the Jewish Queen Esther.

`And Mordecai wrote these things and sent letters to all the Jews, near and far, who were in all the provinces of King Ahasuerus, to establish among them that they should celebrate yearly the fourteenth and fifteenth days of the month of Adar….
When Esther came before the king, he commanded by letter that this wicked plot which Haman had devised against the Jews should return on his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.
So they called these days Purim, after the name Pur, (to cast a lot). (Esther 9: 20 & 21, 25 & 26)

This Feast of Purim is celebrated in Jerusalem on Adar the 15th each year, commemorating their National Deliverance.

The fulfillment of this Feast will be after the Lord has delivered Israel from their enemies. Jews from all over the world will be brought back to Israel and there they will celebrate this wonderful fulfillment of the Feast of Purim. (Isa. 66: 20)

Strictly speaking Hanukkah and Purim are not part of the 7 Moedim.

So I cannot integrate them into any eschatology with a good conscience.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

So the consensus is still February, 2025, a month after Trump takes over in Office?

 

[Omegatime]

Agreed. And yes there is no time limit to the DOTL.

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Explain the Day of the Lord in 2 Thess 2

2 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren, 2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3 Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

 

[Marilyn]

Certainly seems plausible.

By the way the Feast of Trumpets linkage to the tribulation has a correlation with the trumpets at Jericho. Six times the Israelites circled Jericho with a final 7th day crescendo of trumpets where the walls came tumbling down. Which concatenate's with the Second Coming, and the destruction of the old world order.

There are many sevens in Joshua chapter 6. Not a coincidence.

The Fulfillment of the Feast of trumpets before the Day of Atonement refers to the 7 trumpets heralding God`s vengeance upon the rebellious and calling people to repentance in the trib.

 

[Marilyn]

Strictly speaking Hanukkah and Purim are not part of the 7 Moedim.

So I cannot integrate them into any eschatology with a good conscience.

That is right they are not part of the major Feasts but Purim is in God`s word and so is the Feast of dedication that the Lord went up to celebrate. They will have their fulfillment also.

The Major Feasts have their fulfillment in Christ`s work as Mediator, whereas the other 2 are the result of all of those.

 

[cv5]

There is only one feast that couldnt be planned in the days of Yeshua--and that was Pentecost. It is the only feast not set by the calendar. Today the jews have a set day ( Sivan 6th ) but this isnt the Lord's doing but man

Actually it can be deduced from 14 Nisan......sequentially. There is always the pesky problem of the sighting of the new moon. But it's still a simple matter to count from there.

But yes there is no exact date of the month Sivan......it can very year-to-year.