depraving Calvinistic nonsenseThe stubborn blindness amazes me.
depraving Calvinistic nonsenseThe stubborn blindness amazes me.

from what I see from scripture is:A word in your hearts,
The life the way the truth,
The life that was in Adam was God's life.
Adam was made spiritualy alive before the fall which means he was saved, after there fall all mankind became spiritual alive to the power of death.
Why, well the life that was in Adam before the fall, and after the fall was God's, and it's the same life that exists in all man because all man has fell,
Why
Jesus said the natural body never changes. in scripture this can be shown, and he said and it sown perishable but he also said where there is a natural body there is a spiritual body.
Which means man is not born spiritual dead to God but spiritual alive to the power of death
Well God Holds the power of life and death in his spirit, but the difference is he's God and his spirit can't die.
But he told man you can die,
This is because you don't hold the power of death or life God does, this is because you can't over come the knowledge of evil God can.
Man was saved before the fall and spiritualy alive and God chose to save man after the fall.
The difference being to be saved in Jesus so that ye don't fall again.
But the spirit is the same life that was saved in Adam before the fall, it's the same life Gods life, it's just been reborn in Jesus and made spiritual alive again by Jesus Jesus overcoming the power of death that now lives in all man.
This is the way the life and the truth
For truth will lead man to the divine and to surrender to God's will
Un conditional election is for the believer to because God's life still exists in the unbeliever to.
The unbeliever must be unconditional in surrendering to God's will.
can you prove from scripture that man did not have the life living in them before the fall.from what I see from scripture is:
God breathed into Adam and Adam became a living Soul. nothing said about the Spirit yet. Yet the tree of life (Jesus the Christ) was still able to be ate from. When the fall happened, therefore, God set up a Cherubim to guard the tree of life in that Garden then. To stop anyone from eating from it then.
Therefore, believe or not believe came in to believe God or not. For if anyone ate from that tree then. People that, if ate from it then would have eternal life in them as evil forever. If that happened then evil continues does it not. and all after first born flesh birth are in need of the Spirit of God for life everlasting installed inn them by God for them in risen Son to them
Just what I see and see what you are saying God continues to love us all and wants what is best for us all thanks
well anyway what does this meanfrom what I see from scripture is:
God breathed into Adam and Adam became a living Soul. nothing said about the Spirit yet. Yet the tree of life (Jesus the Christ) was still able to be ate from. When the fall happened, therefore, God set up a Cherubim to guard the tree of life in that Garden then. To stop anyone from eating from it then.
Therefore, believe or not believe came in to believe God or not. For if anyone ate from that tree then. People that, if ate from it then would have eternal life in them as evil forever. If that happened then evil continues does it not. and all after first born flesh birth are in need of the Spirit of God for life everlasting installed inn them by God for them in risen Son to them
Just what I see and see what you are saying God continues to love us all and wants what is best for us all thanks
Waiting for scripture please
Show me where the life was not in Adam before the fall.
Waiting
Waiting
Waiting
He put a sword around the tree of life to prevent them living for ever in a fallen state.
Noone provide scripture the life was not in Adam before fall.
All men have the same life
The life.
the son is the resurrected life. That re-sows his life in all man who are willing to surrender to his will in his will in his life in all men.yes there is only One
1 John 5:12He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
A word in your hearts,
The life the way the truth,
The life that was in Adam was God's life.
Adam was made spiritualy alive before the fall which means he was saved, after there fall all mankind became spiritual alive to the power of death.
Why, well the life that was in Adam before the fall, and after the fall was God's, and it's the same life that exists in all man because all man has fell,
Why
Jesus said the natural body never changes. in scripture this can be shown, and he said and it sown perishable but he also said where there is a natural body there is a spiritual body.
Which means man is not born spiritual dead to God but spiritual alive to the power of death
Well God Holds the power of life and death in his spirit, but the difference is he's God and his spirit can't die.
But he told man you can die,
This is because you don't hold the power of death or life God does, this is because you can't over come the knowledge of evil God can.
Man was saved before the fall and spiritualy alive and God chose to save man after the fall.
The difference being to be saved in Jesus so that ye don't fall again.
But the spirit is the same life that was saved in Adam before the fall, it's the same life Gods life, it's just been reborn in Jesus and made spiritual alive again by Jesus Jesus overcoming the power of death that now lives in all man.
This is the way the life and the truth
For truth will lead man to the divine and to surrender to God's will
Un conditional election is for the believer to because God's life still exists in the unbeliever to.
The unbeliever must be unconditional in surrendering to God's will.
no such thing as children of the devil thats a metaphor I know this myself I know.I'm a little confused, but we are not God's spirit. God is a different entity.
Now God created everything and lives in everything. So in that sense... he also breathed life in us so there's a part of him there. We are made in his image, so we look like him. I believe that was done so Jesus could come down and look like himself. That's why all the demons/devil recognized him.
We are "little gods"..... but so are angels. We are called "children of God" or "son/daughter of man." Angels are called "sons of God." So I'm assuming since we're younger we're called children. Christianiese always teaches that we are above angels bc of the verse about judging angels. However I believe that is about fallen angels. I think God looks at angels as his family as well.
But.... fallen angels aka demons and the devil are not saved. They are not God's spirit and obviously reside in h***.
Likewise children of the devil are not God's spirit. God doesn't love all people. Even in the Bible he hated Cain and Esau. Cain wasn't killed but led away to where the fallen angels were and soon after nephilim were here. Nephilim were never in God's plan... hence the world flood.
I don't believe the devil has his own power. Rather he uses the spiritual laws of God to gain wealth, power, etc. The devil can only destroy by himself. People believe things like wealth is evil, but it's only evil when evil people have it. Everything good is from God.
Also unbelievers are not the same as children of the devil. A lot of unbelievers will be saved.. at some point. Children of the devil can't be bc their minds are to twisted. Take chris watts for example... he uses every verse in the Bible incorrectly and for evil. Jeffrey Dahmer. To their twisted mind they make sense, but most people can't even stomach them. The worst though are pastors who abuse Children and essentially make them turn from God bc of their abuse. There's a special place in h*** for them. They will call to God and he will tell them...."I never knew you!"
These are the weeds that grow with the wheat. And unfortunately we're stuck with them until the last days.