Gods motives and mysteries

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goodkid101

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God is all loving, meaning he loves more than the finite can fathom for he loves infinitely. The same goes for his power and knowledge, he knows infinitely and his power is infinite.
"I am the Alpha and the Omega--the Beginning and the End. To all who are thirsty I will give freely from the springs of the water of life." Revelation 21:6
God can take care of everyone and that's why he does. That's why he doesn't let children suffer from cancer. He always stops rape and unusually sick and disturbing crimes from occurring. We really do serve a loving God. We know this cause he would never create someone with the infinite wisdom and knowledge that he is eventually just going to hate it so much he destroys it and then tortures it for the rest of all eternity. An eternity that doesn't end tomorrow or the next day or hundred million years or any time at all, we are so lucky to serve a creator so merciful. I only wish he would come and visit us every once and a while and inform basic matters like how much a rape victims father should be payed or how to treat slaves. (Deuteronomy 22:29-Ephesians 6:9) What a wonderful God we serve that would teach us some great morals. We know that this is good because Gods word is good. This means we should base all of our moral standards after what our all knowing God tells us to do in books like Leviticus. Like when God tells us to stone people to death that is because he knows they are evil and knows that he could not help morally guide them so they need to be destroyed. I also think Gods word clearly tells us that women are not to speak in church.
*Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.1 Corinthians 14:34 So we should honor God and his wishes and just claim this to be one of his great mysteries. I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. We don't need to think about Gods motives behind doing things we need to follow blind by all forms of logic and sense but in faith. A faith that will light our path to pleasing God and hopefully keep him from torturing us forever.
 
Well I'll give you points for the sarcasm... And although God could stop all those bad things you talked about he dosent and that is because he loves us he loves us so much he want take away our freewill not even from those who use it so horribly. He could bend us all to his will and make is perfact little slaves but where's the love in that.... No you can't blame God for the bad decisions that people make that is complelty on them.... As far as your comments about him torturing people for eternity well again that's wrong.. God dosent send people to hell we where going to hell anyway because we are corrupt we are sinners. God being a loving gives us a way to be saved from that fate so if we end up in hell its not because God sent us there its because we refused to take the life line he sent us.
 
“To the present day, all theodicies have failed to explain why a good god would create evil, meaning that the existence of evil is simply incompatible with the existence of a good god. After thousands of years of life-consuming passion, weary theologians have not formulated a new answer to the problem of evilfor a long time. The violence of the natural world, disease, the major catastrophes and chaotic destruction seen across the universe and the unsuitability of the vastness of reality for life all indicate that god is not concerned with life, and might actually even be evil. Failure to answer the problem of evil sheds continual doubt on the very foundations of theistic religions.”

"The Problem of Evil: Why Would a Good God Create Suffering?: 9. Conclusion" by Vexen Crabtree (2011)
I'm sorry for beginning with a quote but heaven is a place of free will and no suffering. An all powerful God is able to create good through his own freewill. He is also able to instill freewill into other beings he could easily put beings into heaven they would have free will and never sin. Because sin causes suffering and if there is no suffering then that place is void of sin. Why would an all loving God then throw these creations into sin. As literal babies they are born into sin they have no choice but to live like they are taught.
Think of this you live your entire life without knowing your own mother she was gone before you could remember her. You lived your whole life without knowing her. Every birthday, every Christmas, every exciting moment, or your first heart break. What if you didn’t know her when you got married or when loved ones died. What if she was never by your side through the happiest moments in your life. Then one day someone you have never met gives you a letter from your mother whom you have never met. It says that you well never see her you will never hear her voice out loud. You will never feel your mothers embrace and you must commit your whole life to worshiping her if you ever want to meet her. Also the guy that told you about her deserves your money and not only that he gets the power to tell you how to live he takes over how you believe and makes it so easy for you to never do any research for yourself. He will tell you how to treat your family and who to love and who to punish. That is what you are really giving up your full potential.
 
To the OP, I don't know where you got your information from, but it's totally erroneous. Rape happens every day. Children suffer and die from disease every day. God does NOT prevent it from happening. I suggest you do some REAL research BEFORE you come preaching on here to those of us who know better.
 
sar·casm

ˈsärˌkazəm/

noun

the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

"his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"

synonyms:derision,*mockery,*ridicule,*scorn
 
Well i don't see why the concept of evil is so complicated its simple really. God did not create evil he created beings that of there own will chose to sin which brought evil in to this world... And it is because of those choices that we are born into sin however God being as loving as he is offers us forgiven for those sins..... And to also make a quote though slightly edited, If I'm wrong about God than I lived a good life with good morals and good people and when I die I lose nothing, but if your wrong about God than when you die you lose everything.
 
That's just scare tactics that get told to children to make them believe something that through all definitions of the word is not logical and is also quite cruel. You will lose everything and die forever in a burning fiery hell for all of eternity. That is often told to children that's 100 times worse than a monster in the closet that is your supposed loving creator destroying you forever. My argument isn't that it doesn't exist, it very well could, my argument is that for the atrocities your god has inflicted on his own people is not a trait of a god I would ever consider worshiping.
 
God DID create evil, technically. He created Lucifer, who became satan after he rebelled against God and was kicked out of heaven. Who do you think ALLOWED the serpent satan into the Garden of Eden? GOD DID. He also allows us to repent of our sins and ask forgiveness.
 
And if it was God that had done these things you may have a point, but as I said people brought the evils of this world upon themselves God didn't do it to us.... And there's no need to try an scare you with it, its happening in whether you fear it our not. But it dosent have to because as I said God loves you enough to forgive you and to save you from the punishment brought on yourself..
 
goodkid101 said:
That's just scare tactics that get told to children to make them believe something that through all definitions of the word is not logical and is also quite cruel. You will lose everything and die forever in a burning fiery hell for all of eternity. That is often told to children that's 100 times worse than a monster in the closet that is your supposed loving creator destroying you forever. My argument isn't that it doesn't exist, it very well could, my argument is that for the atrocities your god has inflicted on his own people is not a trait of a god I would ever consider worshiping.
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Just about everything you mention is covered in that fascinating little book. You can gripe about what everyone else in the world has already addressed long before you came along, or you can start by reading that book... and several others. (None of us are as original as we'd like to think we are.)
 
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God did create Lucifer but he did not make him evil that was his own choice.. Just as it was Eves own choice to eat of the fruit and Adams own choice to do so also.. God did not create evil nor did he make people into sinners we are where we are because of our own choices an actions. But yes God does allow us to repent for those an offers us forgiveness.
 
I do not need forgiveness for being brought up behaving the way I do if it is truly is evil to commit what God has declared sins that only have one way to be forgiven then goes out of his way to hide himself and make what science is saying so much more believable than him then he is the one that should ask for forgiveness. If you had a child and you made rules for it would you declare it unclean and remove it from your house and throw it out on the street, or would you teach it and help it grow. Humans can do this only to a certain point but an all powerful all knowledgeable being could share their wisdom and council in such an infinite way that you would easily learn. An all loving creator would want to. Your so called "god" is not doing this, he is doing the opposite and in turn hr does not deserve to have us his children. He should be seeking our forgiveness not the other way around.
 
God teaches every single day through his people and things aren't sin because God declared them as sin, there sin because there wrong. It is wrong to murder to steal to lie to be greedy an unloving even those who don't belive in God know these these things are wrong.. And Gods not hiding in fact he couldn't be more obvious your just blinded by the world.... And honestly even if he was hiding he would still make more sense than the way science trys to explain things not to say science is wrong, not about everything anyway but they leave out the most important part that God made science, things work the way they do because God made them that way. He's the smartest scientists to ever exist lol.
 
What part of the bible shows any of Gods scientific knowledge? "God set the world on its foundation and it will never be moved" psalms 104:5 thanks god for throwing us off the idea that the earth rotates the sun and people dying for no reason because they didn't have the faith to not "blaspheme" because they were telling the truth. I guess God sent them to hell for not having faith in what he calls "truth".
 
Lol now your grasping at straws friend... The scripture dosent literally mean the earth is going to stay in one spot.. A better literal scientific interpretation would be that God placed the earth in the Goldilocks zone where it needs to be to support life and that it want be moved from there.... An its true science isn't really talked about in the bible but who would expect it to be there wasn't really an uderstanding of science by man at that time so why would it be.... You'll have to explain your people dying for no reason thing a little better.
 
goodkid101 said:
What part of the bible shows any of Gods scientific knowledge? "God set the world on its foundation and it will never be moved" psalms 104:5 thanks god for throwing us off the idea that the earth rotates the sun and people dying for no reason because they didn't have the faith to not "blaspheme" because they were telling the truth. I guess God sent them to hell for not having faith in what he calls "truth".
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Banned,too bad,I was so ready to school this kid.
 
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