Hamas Calls for 'Immediate' End to War After Trump Election Win
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I strongly suggest you find someone to help you with these thoughts. Beyond belief.
As should those "Christians" who probably agree with you but are not so bold to write it down.
Just as a bit of history about the Palestinians.....
They are NOT from the area they are fighting for. Not even close. They immigrated there after being exiled from EVERY nation in the Middle East.
Their ancestral genetic makeup is not singular from any area.
Shortly after WW2 ended some of the residents of the middle east in Northern Africa decided that if they could cause enough dissent among the people using propaganda through the Muslim religion they could install themselves as leadership of a nation.
These had already taken control over large areas in Northern Africa by force. They were military leftovers from governments too weak to hold themselves together. (AKA Pirates and privateers) These followed the model Hitler, Mouselini, Tojo, and Stalin had set. Pure and simple.
These roving bands of militants had even reached Tunisia where Yasser Arafat lived and of course the populist Wahabis of Saudi Arabia. Their messages of ultra conservative Muslim faith struck a resonance with people that believed God wouldn't bless them due to their "sin" which included Westernized ideals of clothing, music, and materialism. (How this really worked is beyond me)
As this religion/political ideology bloomed a few governments caught on to the ultimate goal of these people and began systematic executions of their sect of religion. Mostly because it was destabilizing their governments. So these people moved en mass to various nations trying to gain control over various nations...each time they were slaughtered by various governments. They kept on moving looking for riches and weak militaries.
Until they got to Jordan....
The King of Jordan seen how they were destabilizing his government and made them a deal. They take the land that Israel took from them (West Bank) and they would not be slaughtered. Any left in Jordan would be.
Communication being what it was....Israel newly formed and still recovering from the 6 nation attack....they accepted the people due to outrageous lies and welcomed them. Israel needed people.
Lately, the contingent and idealogues the "Palestinians" left in Iran gained control over Iran in the late 60's. (The ideology took root in the face of becoming to European) The President ran and the Cleric was in control. The money began to flow into Palestinian lands not for food or medicine like was claimed but for weapons.
As the rhetoric became old...not fresh, and Israel over the years proved without a doubt who they really were all along on the world stage...people began to disbelieve the Palestinians. The money from everywhere dried up except from Iran for weapons.
So now we come to October 7....
Palestinians had forbidden any means of birth control decades ago within their borders. Babies were highly encouraged. Abortion was death penalty procedures. Homosexuality in any form was also a Capitol offense.
Selling addictive narcotics to Jews, alcohol, tobacco, prostitution, and gambling casinos for Jewish or tourist patrons were also highly encouraged. (All are extremely expensive or illegal in Israel)
But bikini beaches, fishing, and etc....nada.
Today, there are no "Palestinians" who visit the Dome of the Rock. The Jews at the Wailing Wall (retention wall and protective wall all at the same time) outnumber the Muslims inside every day.
The entrance is 5 feet wide....literally.
One Palestinian guard and a minimum of 3 IDF guard the entrance. All are friends and friendly with each other. (They see each other every day)
With the fall of the Iranian Cleric....the Palestinians are going to become extinct.
No money, no infrastructure, no food and no hope. They have nothing unifying them except their hatred of Israel.
They are NOT from the area they are fighting for. Not even close. They immigrated there after being exiled from EVERY nation in the Middle East.
Their ancestral genetic makeup is not singular from any area.
Shortly after WW2 ended some of the residents of the middle east in Northern Africa decided that if they could cause enough dissent among the people using propaganda through the Muslim religion they could install themselves as leadership of a nation.
These had already taken control over large areas in Northern Africa by force. They were military leftovers from governments too weak to hold themselves together. (AKA Pirates and privateers) These followed the model Hitler, Mouselini, Tojo, and Stalin had set. Pure and simple.
These roving bands of militants had even reached Tunisia where Yasser Arafat lived and of course the populist Wahabis of Saudi Arabia. Their messages of ultra conservative Muslim faith struck a resonance with people that believed God wouldn't bless them due to their "sin" which included Westernized ideals of clothing, music, and materialism. (How this really worked is beyond me)
As this religion/political ideology bloomed a few governments caught on to the ultimate goal of these people and began systematic executions of their sect of religion. Mostly because it was destabilizing their governments. So these people moved en mass to various nations trying to gain control over various nations...each time they were slaughtered by various governments. They kept on moving looking for riches and weak militaries.
Until they got to Jordan....
The King of Jordan seen how they were destabilizing his government and made them a deal. They take the land that Israel took from them (West Bank) and they would not be slaughtered. Any left in Jordan would be.
Communication being what it was....Israel newly formed and still recovering from the 6 nation attack....they accepted the people due to outrageous lies and welcomed them. Israel needed people.
Lately, the contingent and idealogues the "Palestinians" left in Iran gained control over Iran in the late 60's. (The ideology took root in the face of becoming to European) The President ran and the Cleric was in control. The money began to flow into Palestinian lands not for food or medicine like was claimed but for weapons.
As the rhetoric became old...not fresh, and Israel over the years proved without a doubt who they really were all along on the world stage...people began to disbelieve the Palestinians. The money from everywhere dried up except from Iran for weapons.
So now we come to October 7....
Palestinians had forbidden any means of birth control decades ago within their borders. Babies were highly encouraged. Abortion was death penalty procedures. Homosexuality in any form was also a Capitol offense.
Selling addictive narcotics to Jews, alcohol, tobacco, prostitution, and gambling casinos for Jewish or tourist patrons were also highly encouraged. (All are extremely expensive or illegal in Israel)
But bikini beaches, fishing, and etc....nada.
Today, there are no "Palestinians" who visit the Dome of the Rock. The Jews at the Wailing Wall (retention wall and protective wall all at the same time) outnumber the Muslims inside every day.
The entrance is 5 feet wide....literally.
One Palestinian guard and a minimum of 3 IDF guard the entrance. All are friends and friendly with each other. (They see each other every day)
With the fall of the Iranian Cleric....the Palestinians are going to become extinct.
No money, no infrastructure, no food and no hope. They have nothing unifying them except their hatred of Israel.
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I have a few questions because I want to understand your position better:
1.) When you say the Palestinians immigrated to Israel/Palestine, what year or time frame are you referencing? Didn't they make up the majority of the population in Palestine prior to WWI?
2.) During WWI, were the Palestinians promised to be rulers of their own nation if they helped overthrow the Ottoman Empire (aka
Hussein-McMahon correspondence 1915-1916)?
3.) Did the French and English later break their commitment to the Palestinian people by scheming to rid Europe of Jews and instead instituting Palestine as "a home for the Jewish people" via the Balfour Declaration in 1917?
4.) Do you believe the Nakba is fake news? Did the Palestinians who grew up in homes not really live in them and/or willingly give them up so they could be inhabited by Jews?
5.) Were the Palestinians exiled from the middle eastern countries before or after Israel became a state?
6.) When you say "[the Palestinian] ancestral genetic makeup is not singular from any area", are you implying they aren't Arabs from the geographic region of the Mediterranean Sea (East) to the Jordan River (west)?
1.) When you say the Palestinians immigrated to Israel/Palestine, what year or time frame are you referencing? Didn't they make up the majority of the population in Palestine prior to WWI?
2.) During WWI, were the Palestinians promised to be rulers of their own nation if they helped overthrow the Ottoman Empire (aka
Hussein-McMahon correspondence 1915-1916)?
3.) Did the French and English later break their commitment to the Palestinian people by scheming to rid Europe of Jews and instead instituting Palestine as "a home for the Jewish people" via the Balfour Declaration in 1917?
4.) Do you believe the Nakba is fake news? Did the Palestinians who grew up in homes not really live in them and/or willingly give them up so they could be inhabited by Jews?
5.) Were the Palestinians exiled from the middle eastern countries before or after Israel became a state?
6.) When you say "[the Palestinian] ancestral genetic makeup is not singular from any area", are you implying they aren't Arabs from the geographic region of the Mediterranean Sea (East) to the Jordan River (west)?
The huge majority of Arabs which were indigenous to Israel were assimilated into the Israeli population and are Israeli citizens today. Up until the early 1990's the Arabic population was just short of half the population of Israel. It was at this point (USSR fell) that all Jews in Russia were deported into Israel. Many had been imprisoned for their faith. So the Jewish population increased.
Where there were a handful of families that refused to be a part of Israel it had more to do with British control over Israel than anything else. (And that was completely understandable considering how the UK treated their territories....Israel itself was not happy under British occupation either)
Before statehood was proclaimed for Israel the entire area was somewhat of a "no man's land" with zero governance and even less infrastructure. But Jews and Arabs lived peacefully together. There are pictures.
The bulk of today's "Palestinians " are nothing more than descendants of the original people of the surrounding nations which joined the "Palestinian" ideologies which immigrated to Israel around the late 1950's early to mid 1960's.
By the time the Egypt/Israeli war broke out over the Suez Canal Yasser Arafat was already grabbing any and every news camera possible to whine about his people's fate. At this time he was considered a terrorist and no different from those terrorizing France.
Where there were a handful of families that refused to be a part of Israel it had more to do with British control over Israel than anything else. (And that was completely understandable considering how the UK treated their territories....Israel itself was not happy under British occupation either)
Before statehood was proclaimed for Israel the entire area was somewhat of a "no man's land" with zero governance and even less infrastructure. But Jews and Arabs lived peacefully together. There are pictures.
The bulk of today's "Palestinians " are nothing more than descendants of the original people of the surrounding nations which joined the "Palestinian" ideologies which immigrated to Israel around the late 1950's early to mid 1960's.
By the time the Egypt/Israeli war broke out over the Suez Canal Yasser Arafat was already grabbing any and every news camera possible to whine about his people's fate. At this time he was considered a terrorist and no different from those terrorizing France.
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Jews from all over the world WANTED to be a part of Israel again. I know this sounds odd but Jews are almost hard wired genetically to love their land...
It's one of the oddest things I've seen.
All Jews want to live there but it is expensive. Just as expensive as the USA but without the income potential. Many have gone broke trying to live there.
Also all Jews must perform 2 years in either the IDF or public service. I know many who have visited many times but they are out of deferment. But it's still not off the table for them to move there.
Jews were not kicked out of anywhere except Russia. They live everywhere from Iraq and Iran and Saudi Arabia Yemen, Jordan Egypt and etc. The people love them as they tend to build hospitals and universities and other public infrastructure. The Muslim Clerics and Governments are another story.
The Jews have left Iraq, Egypt, Syria, and Iran as the radicals have taken over. Lebanon used to be a blend of Christians, Jews, and Muslims....now only radical Muslims remain.
It's one of the oddest things I've seen.
All Jews want to live there but it is expensive. Just as expensive as the USA but without the income potential. Many have gone broke trying to live there.
Also all Jews must perform 2 years in either the IDF or public service. I know many who have visited many times but they are out of deferment. But it's still not off the table for them to move there.
Jews were not kicked out of anywhere except Russia. They live everywhere from Iraq and Iran and Saudi Arabia Yemen, Jordan Egypt and etc. The people love them as they tend to build hospitals and universities and other public infrastructure. The Muslim Clerics and Governments are another story.
The Jews have left Iraq, Egypt, Syria, and Iran as the radicals have taken over. Lebanon used to be a blend of Christians, Jews, and Muslims....now only radical Muslims remain.
Is presenting historical accuracy of any consequence to people who are firmly entrenched in a completely distorted position?
I highly doubt it.
The preferred method is to reduce even children and women to something a little less than human, they were migrants from somewhere else, riff raff really, akin to barbarians, the scum of the earth, yes even that newborn baby already a terrorist.
And when we frame it as, all the evil ones versus all the good ones .... then one can feel justified in calling for their extermination.
I highly doubt it.
The preferred method is to reduce even children and women to something a little less than human, they were migrants from somewhere else, riff raff really, akin to barbarians, the scum of the earth, yes even that newborn baby already a terrorist.
And when we frame it as, all the evil ones versus all the good ones .... then one can feel justified in calling for their extermination.