Have the times of the gentiles ended in 1967?

Hakawaka · Sunday at 4:44 AM

If you are one of the people who believes that the gathering of jews in Israel today is a prophecy fulfilled, I want to ask you a few questions:

1. Which verses talk about this gathering? The ones I see are all connected to the second coming of Jesus like Isaiah 11, wolf lying with the lamb etc.

2. Did the times of the gentiles mentioned in Luke 21 end in 1967 when the jews gained control of Jerusalem? If they did, what time are we living in now? Times of the jews?

Follower777 · Sunday at 10:54 AM

Hakawaka said:

I identify as Spiritual Israel, so relate to "Replace theology" as I understand "End Time" Bible Prophecy. It relates to we covenant keeping Christians, being Israel, IN CHRIST, our Lord and Savior. Not these self-proclaimed Jews, claiming, to be God's people, Israel, to be able to quote God's promises, of giving Israel, the land of Canaan, Palestine today, to justify their murder and slaughter, ethnic cleansing 10's of thousands of innocent people, ( women & children, included ) Rev 2:9 Rev 3:9

The Jewish nation of today, in the Middle East is not the Israel of the Bible. They are a people believing & fulfilling the Zionist Movement, manufactured by the Roman Church these last 110+ years, to reclaim the "Holy Lands" for the Anti-Christ's end times motives.

This Zionism is supported by most Protestant Churches today, our president and many high level government war-hawks. Zionism is an illegal land grab and slaughter of innocence ( men, women & children ) ethnic cleansing, to bring about the New World Order, a world economic reset, ("you will own nothing and be happy") and a religious ecumenism being fostered by the (un-)Holy Roman Church. Their one world religion, where THEY (the AntiChrist), the Pope being God, rules Earth from Jerusalem, God's Holy Mountain, for this "millennium", IT -> The Roman Church, being the spiritual body of Christ on earth.

It's their doctrinal, theological beliefs, presented in their writings and creeds. Check it out ! Tis BLASPHEMY ! The AntiChrist !! Do your own "due diligence" and BELIEVE Jesus, our Lord & King ... John 3:16

The Jewish nation ceased to be God's covenant people when they “corporately” ( the Nation, as God's chosen people, The Church) rejected Christ and broke the terms of the covenant, stoned Steven in Acts 6, and declared, "We have no king, but Caesar" in John 19.

Today, the covenant promises are inherited by spiritual Israel—those who follow Jesus and keep God's commandments.

The Covenant Was Conditional

Exodus 19:5–6 – “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure…”
Deuteronomy 28:1–2, 15 – Blessings and curses based on obedience.
Jeremiah 11:3–4, 10 – “Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant… they are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers…”

National Rejection of Christ

John 1:11 – “He came unto his own, and his own received him not.”
Luke 19:41–44 – Jesus weeps over Jerusalem, foretelling its destruction due to not recognizing “the time of thy visitation.”
Matthew 21:43 – “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”

The Outward Signs Lost Their Power

Daniel 9:26–27 – The Messiah will “cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”
Hebrews 10:1–10 – The sacrificial system was a shadow of Christ’s offering; with His sacrifice, it became obsolete.
Matthew 23:38 – “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”

Modern Jews Are Not Spiritual Israel

Romans 2:28–29 – “He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly…”
Galatians 3:28–29 – “If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Romans 9:6–8 – “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…”

The Sabbath and Covenant

Exodus 31:16–17 – “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath… for a perpetual covenant.”
Isaiah 56:2–6 – Promises to the foreigner who keeps the Sabbath and holds fast God’s covenant.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20 – “Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them…”

Continued Responsibility to Evangelize

Romans 1:16 – “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
Romans 10:1 – “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.”
Acts 13:46–47 – Paul and Barnabas preached first to the Jews, then to the Gentiles after rejection.

Reverence for Their Past

Romans 3:1–2 – “What advantage then hath the Jew?… unto them were committed the oracles of God.”
Romans 9:4–5 – “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants… and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came…”
Matthew 5:17 – “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets…”

Each of these verses harmonizes, that God’s covenant was never meant to be inherited by lineage alone, but through faith and obedience to Christ.

Do you see the Character of Christ, His Righteousness, being represented in these people, calling themselves Jews, in the middle East, slaughtering Palestinian, women and children?
Are you not aware of the Catholic Church's involvement in Zionism and the return of Jews to Palestine, returning this SO CALLED “Israel” to Palestine, in 1920-49 ?
Do you realize that many these people over in Palestine, calling themselves Jews, have no linage from Abraham / Jacob ? They are Khazarian Jews, who adopted, Judaism, back in the 800s.
Rev 2:9 "I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
Rev 3:9 "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."( the "you" here is spiritual Israel )
nuf sed

Follower777 · Sunday at 10:57 AM

Hakawaka said:

I identify as Spiritual Israel, so relate to "Replace theology" as I understand "End Time" Bible Prophecy. It relates to we covenant keeping Christians, being Israel, IN CHRIST, our Lord and Savior. Not these self-proclaimed Jews, claiming, to be God's people, Israel, to be able to quote God's promises, of giving Israel, the land of Canaan, Palestine today, to justify their murder and slaughter, ethnic cleansing 10's of thousands of innocent people, ( women & children, included ) Rev 2:9 Rev 3:9

The Jewish nation of today, in the Middle East is not the Israel of the Bible. They are a people believing & fulfilling the Zionist Movement, manufactured by the Roman Church these last 110+ years, to reclaim the "Holy Lands" for the Anti-Christ's end times motives.

This Zionism is supported by most Protestant Churches today, our president and many high level government war-hawks. Zionism is an illegal land grab and slaughter of innocence ( men, women & children ) ethnic cleansing, to bring about the New World Order, a world economic reset, ("you will own nothing and be happy") and a religious ecumenism being fostered by the (un-)Holy Roman Church. Their one world religion, where THEY (the AntiChrist), the Pope being God, rules Earth from Jerusalem, God's Holy Mountain, for this "millennium", IT -> The Roman Church, being the spiritual body of Christ on earth.

It's their doctrinal, theological beliefs, presented in their writings and creeds. Check it out ! Tis BLASPHEMY ! The AntiChrist !! Do your own "due diligence" and BELIEVE Jesus, our Lord & King ... John 3:16

The Jewish nation ceased to be God's covenant people when they “corporately” ( the Nation, as God's chosen people, The Church) rejected Christ and broke the terms of the covenant, stoned Steven in Acts 6, and declared, "We have no king, but Caesar" in John 19.

Today, the covenant promises are inherited by spiritual Israel—those who follow Jesus and keep God's commandments.

The Covenant Was Conditional

Exodus 19:5–6 – “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure…”
Deuteronomy 28:1–2, 15 – Blessings and curses based on obedience.
Jeremiah 11:3–4, 10 – “Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant… they are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers…”

National Rejection of Christ

John 1:11 – “He came unto his own, and his own received him not.”
Luke 19:41–44 – Jesus weeps over Jerusalem, foretelling its destruction due to not recognizing “the time of thy visitation.”
Matthew 21:43 – “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”

The Outward Signs Lost Their Power

Daniel 9:26–27 – The Messiah will “cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”
Hebrews 10:1–10 – The sacrificial system was a shadow of Christ’s offering; with His sacrifice, it became obsolete.
Matthew 23:38 – “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”

Modern Jews Are Not Spiritual Israel

Romans 2:28–29 – “He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly…”
Galatians 3:28–29 – “If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Romans 9:6–8 – “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…”

The Sabbath and Covenant

Exodus 31:16–17 – “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath… for a perpetual covenant.”
Isaiah 56:2–6 – Promises to the foreigner who keeps the Sabbath and holds fast God’s covenant.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20 – “Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them…”

Continued Responsibility to Evangelize

Romans 1:16 – “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
Romans 10:1 – “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.”
Acts 13:46–47 – Paul and Barnabas preached first to the Jews, then to the Gentiles after rejection.

Reverence for Their Past

Romans 3:1–2 – “What advantage then hath the Jew?… unto them were committed the oracles of God.”
Romans 9:4–5 – “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants… and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came…”
Matthew 5:17 – “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets…”

Each of these verses harmonizes, that God’s covenant was never meant to be inherited by lineage alone, but through faith and obedience to Christ.

Do you see the Character of Christ, His Righteousness, being represented in these people, calling themselves Jews, in the middle East, slaughtering Palestinian, women and children?
Are you not aware of the Catholic Church's involvement in Zionism and the return of Jews to Palestine, returning this SO CALLED “Israel” to Palestine, in 1920-49 ?
Do you realize that many these people over in Palestine, calling themselves Jews, have no linage from Abraham / Jacob ? They are Khazarian Jews, who adopted, Judaism, back in the 800s.
Rev 2:9 "I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
Rev 3:9 "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."( the "you" here is spiritual Israel )
nuf sed

Follower777 · Sunday at 11:03 AM

Hakawaka said:

I identify as Spiritual Israel, so relate to "Replace theology" as I understand "End Time" Bible Prophecy. It relates to we covenant keeping Christians, being Israel, IN CHRIST, our Lord and Savior. Not these self-proclaimed Jews, claiming, to be God's people, Israel, to be able to quote God's promises, of giving Israel, the land of Canaan, Palestine today, to justify their murder and slaughter, ethnic cleansing 10's of thousands of innocent people, ( women & children, included ) Rev 2:9 Rev 3:9

The Jewish nation of today, in the Middle East is not the Israel of the Bible. They are a people believing & fulfilling the Zionist Movement, manufactured by the Roman Church these last 110+ years, to reclaim the "Holy Lands" for the Anti-Christ's end times motives.

This Zionism is supported by most Protestant Churches today, our president and many high level government war-hawks. Zionism is an illegal land grab and slaughter of innocence ( men, women & children ) ethnic cleansing, to bring about the New World Order, a world economic reset, ("you will own nothing and be happy") and a religious ecumenism being fostered by the (un-)Holy Roman Church. Their one world religion, where THEY (AntiChrist), the Pope being "God on Earth", rules Earth from Jerusalem, God's Holy Mountain, for this "millennium", IT -> The Roman Church, being the spiritual body of Christ on earth.

It's their doctrinal understandings and theological beliefs, presented in their writings and creeds. Check it out ! Tis BLASPHEMY ! The AntiChrist !! Do your own "due diligence" and BELIEVE Jesus, our Lord & King ... John 3:16

The Jewish nation ceased to be God's covenant people when they “corporately” ( the Nation, as God's chosen people, The Church) rejected Christ and broke the terms of the covenant, stoned Steven in Acts 6, and declared, "We have no king, but Caesar" in John 19.

Today, the covenant promises are inherited by spiritual Israel—those who follow Jesus and keep God's commandments.

The Covenant Was Conditional

Exodus 19:5–6 – “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure…”
Deuteronomy 28:1–2, 15 – Blessings and curses based on obedience.
Jeremiah 11:3–4, 10 – “Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant… they are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers…”

National Rejection of Christ

John 1:11 – “He came unto his own, and his own received him not.”
Luke 19:41–44 – Jesus weeps over Jerusalem, foretelling its destruction due to not recognizing “the time of thy visitation.”
Matthew 21:43 – “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”

The Outward Signs Lost Their Power

Daniel 9:26–27 – The Messiah will “cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”
Hebrews 10:1–10 – The sacrificial system was a shadow of Christ’s offering; with His sacrifice, it became obsolete.
Matthew 23:38 – “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”

Modern Jews Are Not Spiritual Israel

Romans 2:28–29 – “He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly…”
Galatians 3:28–29 – “If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Romans 9:6–8 – “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…”

The Sabbath and Covenant

Exodus 31:16–17 – “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath… for a perpetual covenant.”
Isaiah 56:2–6 – Promises to the foreigner who keeps the Sabbath and holds fast God’s covenant.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20 – “Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them…”

Continued Responsibility to Evangelize

Romans 1:16 – “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
Romans 10:1 – “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.”
Acts 13:46–47 – Paul and Barnabas preached first to the Jews, then to the Gentiles after rejection.

Reverence for Their Past

Romans 3:1–2 – “What advantage then hath the Jew?… unto them were committed the oracles of God.”
Romans 9:4–5 – “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants… and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came…”
Matthew 5:17 – “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets…”

Each of these verses harmonizes, that God’s covenant was never meant to be inherited by lineage alone, but through faith and obedience to Christ.

Do you see the Character of Christ, His Righteousness, being represented in these people, calling themselves Jews, in the middle East, slaughtering Palestinian, women and children?
Are you not aware of the Catholic Church's involvement in Zionism and the return of Jews to Palestine, returning this SO CALLED “Israel” to Palestine, in 1920-49 ?
Do you realize that many these people over in Palestine, calling themselves Jews, have no linage from Abraham / Jacob ? They are Khazarian Jews, who adopted, Judaism, back in the 800s.
Rev 2:9 "I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
Rev 3:9 "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."( the "you" here is spiritual Israel )
nuf sed

Follower777 · Sunday at 11:26 AM

Sorry for the double post.. there was a "Server Error"

Magenta · Sunday at 11:35 AM

Hakawaka said:

Isaiah 11 verse 6 ~ The wolf will live with the lamb, and the leopard will lie down with the goat; the calf and young lion and fatling will be together, and a little child will lead them.

p_rehbein · Sunday at 12:45 PM

Hakawaka said:

Why do you think the Jews are gathering in Israel? There are Jews ALL OVER THE WORLD. Millions of them here in the States. They are not rushing to relocate to Israel are they.

As well, you seem to forget that the New Covenant (Grace through Faith) clearly makes a path to ALL BELIEVERS to become Heirs to the Promise through Adoption!

Gsro97 · Sunday at 8:32 PM

Follower777 said:

I identify as Spiritual Israel, so relate to "Replace theology" as I understand "End Time" Bible Prophecy. It relates to we covenant keeping Christians, being Israel, IN CHRIST, our Lord and Savior. Not these self-proclaimed Jews, claiming, to be God's people, Israel, to be able to quote God's promises, of giving Israel, the land of Canaan, Palestine today, to justify their murder and slaughter, ethnic cleansing 10's of thousands of innocent people, ( women & children, included ) Rev 2:9 Rev 3:9

The Jewish nation of today, in the Middle East is not the Israel of the Bible. They are a people believing & fulfilling the Zionist Movement, manufactured by the Roman Church these last 110+ years, to reclaim the "Holy Lands" for the Anti-Christ's end times motives.

This Zionism is supported by most Protestant Churches today, our president and many high level government war-hawks. Zionism is an illegal land grab and slaughter of innocence ( men, women & children ) ethnic cleansing, to bring about the New World Order, a world economic reset, ("you will own nothing and be happy") and a religious ecumenism being fostered by the (un-)Holy Roman Church. Their one world religion, where THEY (the AntiChrist), the Pope being God, rules Earth from Jerusalem, God's Holy Mountain, for this "millennium", IT -> The Roman Church, being the spiritual body of Christ on earth.

It's their doctrinal, theological beliefs, presented in their writings and creeds. Check it out ! Tis BLASPHEMY ! The AntiChrist !! Do your own "due diligence" and BELIEVE Jesus, our Lord & King ... John 3:16

The Jewish nation ceased to be God's covenant people when they “corporately” ( the Nation, as God's chosen people, The Church) rejected Christ and broke the terms of the covenant, stoned Steven in Acts 6, and declared, "We have no king, but Caesar" in John 19.

Today, the covenant promises are inherited by spiritual Israel—those who follow Jesus and keep God's commandments.

The Covenant Was Conditional

Exodus 19:5–6 – “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure…”
Deuteronomy 28:1–2, 15 – Blessings and curses based on obedience.
Jeremiah 11:3–4, 10 – “Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant… they are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers…”

National Rejection of Christ

John 1:11 – “He came unto his own, and his own received him not.”
Luke 19:41–44 – Jesus weeps over Jerusalem, foretelling its destruction due to not recognizing “the time of thy visitation.”
Matthew 21:43 – “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”

The Outward Signs Lost Their Power

Daniel 9:26–27 – The Messiah will “cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”
Hebrews 10:1–10 – The sacrificial system was a shadow of Christ’s offering; with His sacrifice, it became obsolete.
Matthew 23:38 – “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”

Modern Jews Are Not Spiritual Israel

Romans 2:28–29 – “He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly…”
Galatians 3:28–29 – “If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Romans 9:6–8 – “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…”

The Sabbath and Covenant

Exodus 31:16–17 – “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath… for a perpetual covenant.”
Isaiah 56:2–6 – Promises to the foreigner who keeps the Sabbath and holds fast God’s covenant.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20 – “Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them…”

Continued Responsibility to Evangelize

Romans 1:16 – “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
Romans 10:1 – “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.”
Acts 13:46–47 – Paul and Barnabas preached first to the Jews, then to the Gentiles after rejection.

Reverence for Their Past

Romans 3:1–2 – “What advantage then hath the Jew?… unto them were committed the oracles of God.”
Romans 9:4–5 – “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants… and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came…”
Matthew 5:17 – “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets…”

Each of these verses harmonizes, that God’s covenant was never meant to be inherited by lineage alone, but through faith and obedience to Christ.

Do you see the Character of Christ, His Righteousness, being represented in these people, calling themselves Jews, in the middle East, slaughtering Palestinian, women and children?
Are you not aware of the Catholic Church's involvement in Zionism and the return of Jews to Palestine, returning this SO CALLED “Israel” to Palestine, in 1920-49 ?
Do you realize that many these people over in Palestine, calling themselves Jews, have no linage from Abraham / Jacob ? They are Khazarian Jews, who adopted, Judaism, back in the 800s.
Rev 2:9 "I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
Rev 3:9 "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."( the "you" here is spiritual Israel )
nuf sed

Well said! The number of Zionist on this site that discourage discussion without going into some sort of drivel about it being linked to Christianity.

Zionism no different to Scientology or astrology. It has no basis in the Jewish faith. As Christians we should looma t Christianities teachings not another faiths.

Blade · Sunday at 11:13 PM

Well for me they will know you are mine by your love one for another. Then many scriptures given.. something came before and after and are taking out of context. Take Rev 3:9 "synagogue of Satan". Yeah to just read it and quote it with out diving in to see what He was talking about. Its very clear there was a group saying they were Jews but were "synagogue of Satan". Its like you freely sin there is no more sacrifice for that sin. Hmm scary but what if we did some searching we find Paul was talking to Jewish believers that would sin and then try to go back to office a sacrifice for that sin. He said there is no more sacrifice for that sin Christ can not die again. What they were doing was putting Christ to open shame.

Pffft take I wish you were hot or cold. So we do take that and just toss it at forgive us Father. If one looks into that seems they fully understood warm.. hot cold. Sorry somethings you need to find your self. So I never got to see Jewish people in one day have to come up with a name and they did in one day Israel. Isa 66 I think they relate that to. Then never got to witness all the Jewish people coming from all over the world back into a land God gave them. I did get to witness them grow and man are the blooming and what are the odds most of this world hates them.

I can only speak on what I know and I would never talk to someone that believed knew they were the real Israel or Spiritual Israel they way it was done here to those that simply disagree. I don't care about what so and so said in the past. I know Christ does not do that to me and tells me to forget those things that are behind. So those that didn't want Him that rejected Him.. do you wonder did Christ know them better then we do today? "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"

Hes the one that said if you were blind you would have no sin. You say you see your sin remains. So.. as He said to me.. show me a branch that was not originally of the vine. I am the vine you are the branches". Can't forget every promise He made them He will keep. I believe they are His.. I believe anyone on this planet that freely knowingly rejects Yeshua as messiah will not see the Father. I also know there are those that say Jesus is lord yet they do not know Him and I wonder does He know them. Saying Jesus is lord .. so .. does not mean were saved.

From the start what I got? "they will know you are mine by your love one for another". Another is not just the ones we like.. this love I didn't see here forgive me. If you think you are the real spiritual Israel? Praise GOD I disagree. What I look for is do you know Jesus as your savoir? THAT is what matters. He came to SAVE this world.. remember this.. they are HIS CREATION He alone sees the heart not us

Mem · Sunday at 11:42 PM

I got the impression that the tree is on the (grafting) table, and there are branches cut off, for a time, in order to graft in the other-than-Israels which makes them effectively, a part of Israel. Some of the newly grafted branches sneer down at the tree's branches, lying there, because they are living off the root and those lying there, off the root, are going to die off unless they are grafted back in. Some might think those branches have already been pitched into the dumpster for trash, but they're not going away if the master craftsmen has intended all along to graft them back in after the wild branches have been added.

tablet123 · Monday at 12:43 AM

Hakawaka said:

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Israel will always be in the truth and never stray again so this is a future prophesy.

The kingdom will be restored to Israel so all the Hebrews will go back to Israel.

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Israel as a nation has 70 weeks, 490 years, to make an end to sin, bring in everlasting righteousness, and anoint the most Holy who is Jesus.

69 weeks has passed with one more week to go, 7 years.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

The last week was postponed until the last 7 years for grace was given for the world until salvation was no longer available to them.

Also because Israel was punished because they did not come to repentance for 70 years so God allowed the Roman Empire to scatter the Hebrews in to the nations as the punishment He told them in the Old Testament if they strayed from the truth for too long.

So the Hebrews were not together for the 70th week to happen which is why there is one more week to go.

The last week is the time God causes all people who do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom that is all about people and there is no God and brings Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Lord and Savior.

The New Age Christ, antichrist, will negotiate peace in the Middle East which will result in a 7 years peace treaty which will start the system of man going against the operation of God.

It will pave the way for all Hebrews to go to Israel for the Gentile nations will cause it to happen for the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land but God means it for good towards the Hebrews.

Jerusalem will be divided with the Palestinians, and the Hebrews will be able to rebuild their 3rd temple which they will go back to animal sacrifices.

When they take the mark of the beast repentance and salvation are no longer available to the world and the fulness of the Gentiles have come in.

The New Age Christ will step in to the Hebrews temple and tell them he is their God and to stop animal sacrifices.

God will send Israel 2 witnesses to turn Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Lord and Savior and at the end of the last three and one half years Israel as a nation will be in the truth and the 70th week will be fulfilled.

The 7 years is over and the wrath of God will be poured upon the world leading up to the battle of Armageddon when Jesus comes back with the saints and defeats the world and saves Israel.

Eze 39:1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
Eze 39:2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:
Eze 39:3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.
Eze 39:4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Zec 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.

Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Jesus will rule over one sixth of the heathen that God spared for 1000 years.

Animals will have no fear of people and be docile that a child can lead a crocodile and the crocodile will have no desire to hurt the child.

ThereRoseaLamb · Monday at 12:56 AM

Gsro97 said:

Zionism- a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel.

Zionism is the Jewish national movement dedicated to the establishment, development, and defense of a sovereign Jewish state in the historic land of Israel.

Why is Israel having a right to a homeland "drivel" in your mind?

Hakawaka · Monday at 3:31 AM

p_rehbein said:

I know there are loads of Jews in the U.S. who have not moved (yet). But clearly there has been a massive regathering of jews from among the nations to Israel? Have you been paying attention buddy?

Omegatime · Monday at 6:52 AM

Time of the Gentiles end at the Resurrection/Rapture

PennEd · Monday at 6:57 AM

Hakawaka said:

Who is currently trodding the Temple mount?

Looks like a satanic mosque to me.

The time of Gentiles ends when the last person is saved and converted in Jesus Christ, and His Church is raptured.

Clayman · Monday at 7:08 AM

Hakawaka said:

Agreed! Also persecution and hatred of Jews is on a massive rise, they are starting to feel unsafe in numerous countries, God said he was going to gather Israel to the land of Canaan, He never explicitly said by what means that He would use to achieve this, but irrational hatred, jealousy, and biased contempt for a race of people seems as good a way of achieving this as any I suppose.

Therefore His plan to gather together the Jews seems to have finally been put in motion 70-80 years ago and will be completed any time soon. Then the next stage of the plan also known as the 1000yr reign of Israel over the earth could begin, well anytime, but could be at hand.

Isaiah 11;12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earth.

Amos 9:15 I will firmly plant them in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land that I have given them,” says the LORD your God.

GWH · Monday at 7:28 AM

Hakawaka said:

If you are one of the people who believes that the gathering of jews in Israel today is a prophecy fulfilled, I want to ask you a few questions:

1. Which verses talk about this gathering? The ones I see are all connected to the second coming of Jesus like Isaiah 11, wolf lying with the lamb etc.

2. Did the times of the gentiles mentioned in Luke 21 end in 1967 when the jews gained control of Jerusalem? If they did, what time are we living in now? Times of the jews?

We are living in the times following my graduation from high school.
:^)

ChristRoseFromTheDead · Monday at 8:26 AM

ThereRoseaLamb said:

What makes anyone think that homeland is Holywood? That's certainly not a right guaranteed in scripture

GWH · Monday at 8:31 AM

ChristRoseFromTheDead said:

It was part of the Old Covenant, but the NT teaches that our home is heaven.

ChristRoseFromTheDead · Monday at 8:35 AM

GWH said:

It's not a right guaranteed in either the old or new covenants. Israel had a right to live in the land, not own it, as long as they were obedient to the covenant

The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for you are strangers and sojourners with me. Leviticus 25:23

Have the times of the gentiles ended in 1967?

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