Heaven Now?
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Brothers and Sisters,
Jesus came as the walking word, then we have the promise of His 2nd comming,he only comes twice, and we are all going to be turned into our spirit bodys at that time. on 666 the antichrist gets kicked out, and Satans starts his church, his message "Ive come to fly you away.
2 Thessalonians 2
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
No rapture
two in the field , one taken one left
666, the antichrist come's
777 Our Lord and Savior comes
"Ibe"
"Ibe a Disciple of Jesus Christ"
"Ibe In His Service"
Jesus came as the walking word, then we have the promise of His 2nd comming,he only comes twice, and we are all going to be turned into our spirit bodys at that time. on 666 the antichrist gets kicked out, and Satans starts his church, his message "Ive come to fly you away.
2 Thessalonians 2
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
No rapture
two in the field , one taken one left
666, the antichrist come's
777 Our Lord and Savior comes
"Ibe"
"Ibe a Disciple of Jesus Christ"
"Ibe In His Service"
Well, depends on if you are talking about "heaven" proper, or the "kingdom of Elohim" which in one of the 4 gospels is referred to as the "kingdom of heaven".
I personally prefer to the "kingdom of Elohim" as being different from "heaven" proper.
You can be a U.S. citizen, and not be physically in the U.S. for example.
If you "ascend into heaven" per Y'Shua, Enoch, Elijah, etc, I believe this means you are actually THERE.
If you are in the "kingdom of Elohim", then you are a citizen under His government, and you can be in that state without actually being IN heaven.
"The kingdom of Elohim is at hand."
Meaning "within reach", right now.
I personally prefer to the "kingdom of Elohim" as being different from "heaven" proper.
You can be a U.S. citizen, and not be physically in the U.S. for example.
If you "ascend into heaven" per Y'Shua, Enoch, Elijah, etc, I believe this means you are actually THERE.
If you are in the "kingdom of Elohim", then you are a citizen under His government, and you can be in that state without actually being IN heaven.
"The kingdom of Elohim is at hand."
Meaning "within reach", right now.
You will have to encounter someone who is in the flesh and also in heaven. The closest to this of whom I know is that man mentioned who was caught up to the "third heaven," whatever that means, but aside from this individual, actually being with Yeshua, God, in heaven is yet to come for anyone I know.