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Look i am not here to prove my dream the bible said ppl would be cast into the lake of fire and they were you can believe me about it or not i dont really care. what color was Jesus? thats an odd question, if your sincere and are not mocking he was a perfect tan color and I was as small as I small child so I fit perfectly in his lap
when have I accused you? are talking about me specifically or everyone else? And anyways I would be careful quoting scripture and handle it with care, the word of God is holy and sacred and is not used to prove our beliefs or to be used against each other. Its not a weapon and its to edify in a loving manner
Bible illustrations have more than one aspect. They set forth and illuminate principles, and they often have a prophetic meaning and application. Moreover, some had a prophetic meaning for the time when they were spoken or shortly thereafter, and some were to have, in addition, a fulfillment in the distant future. There are two general misconceptions that can hinder the understanding of the illustrations of the Bible. One is the viewing of all the illustrations as being merely good stories, examples, or lessons. The parable of the prodigal son, for instance, is considered by some to be a mere piece of fine literature, the illustration of the rich man and Lazarus, an example of reward and punishment after death.
In this connection it may also be remarked that the illustrations, although drawn from life and natural things, did not necessarily take place in actuality. Although some illustrations begin with expressions such as: Once upon a time, A man had, There was a man, A certain man was, or similar phrases, they were devised by the speaker under influence of God's spirit and were what they are called illustrations, or parables. (Jg 9:8;/ Mt 21:28, 33/ Lu 16:1, 19) Of Jesus Christ it is said at Matthew 13:34: All these things Jesus spoke to the crowds by illustrations. Indeed, without an illustration he would not speak to them,
(Mark 4:33, 34) With many illustrations of that sort he spoke the word to them, to the extent that they were able to listen. 34 Indeed, without an illustration he would not speak to them, but he would explain all things privately to his disciples.
Also that would go against this scripture that says:Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten.
(Psalm 146:3, 4) Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation. 4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish.
So is the Bible lying saying that when you die you will know your surroundings. No it doesn't, so you can conclude that the bible doesn't contradict itself and that the context at Luke 16:19-31 was an illustration, not a event that actually took place.
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And I'm sure people who have a strong beliefs in aliens will be convinced they had a visitation if they dreamt about them.
Someone who doesn't believe in aliens and has the same dream will put it down to just that.. a dream.
I'm also sure followers of Vishnu have been convinced of an encounter when they dreamt about them.
If you Blain had a dream about Vishnu you wouldn't claim it was a divine encounter... youd just put it down to a weird dream.You know why? Cos you don't believe in Vishnu.
See the pattern now?
Someone who doesn't believe in aliens and has the same dream will put it down to just that.. a dream.
I'm also sure followers of Vishnu have been convinced of an encounter when they dreamt about them.
If you Blain had a dream about Vishnu you wouldn't claim it was a divine encounter... youd just put it down to a weird dream.You know why? Cos you don't believe in Vishnu.
See the pattern now?
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Revelation 14:9-11 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
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Forget about Hell. Do a Bible study on the condition of the dead. If you do this, you will discover that the dead know nothing at all. You will find David to state that their thoughts are perished and that there is no knowledge in the grave. You will find Job to state that the dead perceive nothing. You will find the Bible to state that it is appointed unto man once to die and then the judgment with no mention of a period of punishment in between. You will find that Christ said himself that he condemned no man. Forget about Hell. Hell is only the grave. Christians will face the judgment seat of Christ and the unsaved will face the Great White Throne judgment. No one has been judged yet. That is a future event.
Luke 16...center of the earth...also hell moves to meet the lost at their coming, never full and is also called the pit, smoking pit and will be cast into the lake of fire at the final judgment as found in Revelation....was made for the angels that left their first estate and not particularly for men which to me gives a little weight to the angels falling before the creation of Genesis....just a few thoughts to ponder.
*runs away with Blain in hot pursuit* Hi dcontroversal,
We need to distinguish something here though. What you've said here about hell includes two different places in the Greek text. There are three different places that the KJV translates Hell, this is causes much confusion. The three places are, Gehenna, Hades, and Tartarus. Gehenna is the place of fiery torment. Hades is the grave, and Tartarus is a place reserved for angels.
We need to distinguish something here though. What you've said here about hell includes two different places in the Greek text. There are three different places that the KJV translates Hell, this is causes much confusion. The three places are, Gehenna, Hades, and Tartarus. Gehenna is the place of fiery torment. Hades is the grave, and Tartarus is a place reserved for angels.