I have done all of that by reading the entire Bible five times, so I have a fairly good idea of the complete context and am ready to discuss specific verses considering the Author's Word whenever you have time. Happy trails until then!
Hermeneutics: Interpreting Scripture
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I have done all of that by reading the entire Bible five times, so I have a fairly good idea of the complete context and am ready to discuss specific verses considering the Author's Word whenever you have time. Happy trails until then!
any method used to interpret the word of God without a personal relationship with Christ, that don't Place Christ as the Supreme Authority on which all scriptures are built on, and help of the Holy Spirit, will never come to understand the word of God.
In the context of Orthodox Christianity, we do agree on all Essentials of the word of God that have been established as a normative with Genisis to Rev.
John 14: 6 Jesus is speaking what is an imperative.
Jesus said : I am the way. the truth, and the Life. No one goes to the Father but through Him.
the Greek says :
I AM the Hodos , the Alētheia and the Zōē
The Greek it is Jesus saying I am the Only way , The Only truth, and the Only Eternal life.
Jesu is saying I am not a way among many, "I am the only way." Jesus is not saying I am a truth among many truth's, "I AM only Truth."
Jesus is saying I AM not a life among many lives "I AM the Only Enteral Life."
There is no Other Way, Truth, or Life to MY FATHER but by ME!
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Yes, and I am willing to discuss how Jesus is the Way to eternal life for everyone who has ever lived.
I visited Orthodox services in Bosnia and Romania, but all I remember is that they had no seating!
Yes, that is why I refer to my creed as Christian orthodoxy:
The normative way of stating the kerygma/GRFS in the NT is “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in Acts 16:31, 2Cor. 4:5 & Col. 2:6) or “Love Jesus as Messiah and Lord” (John 8:42). The main points of Christian orthodoxy implicit in these statements can be explained or elaborated as follows:
1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), which means trying to obey (Phil. 3:12, 1John 1:8) His commandment to love one another (Matt. 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2).
5. Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with those who freely accept Him (Rev. 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven when by means of persevering in learning Truth/God’s Word/sanctification everyone cooperates fully with His will (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4). Such cooperation can be termed “the surrendered life”.
6. This creed summarizes revelation of the NT Gospel/Truth (Matt. 26:13, John 14:6), which fulfilled the OT revelation (Matt. 5:17, John 19:30, Heb. 7:11-10:10) and culminates the search for salvation by souls who know only general revelation (Rom. 1:20, 2:14-16, Matt. 7:12). Seeking begins when souls love truth/repent of false beliefs (2Thes. 2:10&13, Matt. 4:17, 7:7), which is the Way to eternal life God wills, who is the Lord Jesus (Matt. 7:14, John 1:14, 4:24, 14:6). Lacking this love leads to believing lies and debauchery (Matt. 7:6, Rom. 1:18&25-26, 2Thes. 2:11-12).
Do you agree?
It is what I compiled by combining all relevant Scriptures only about God's requirement for salvation,
which is what I think a creed should include. If you think I missed something crucial, please let me know.
Secondary issues can be listed in a statement of faith, as the Baptists (SBC) call theirs.
there is no Creed written in the word of God. a Creed can mirror what is already in the Bible however a creed is not authoritative word of God. The foundational truth of the word of God which our faith stand on is, Christ Crucified, buried , and resurrected.
Jesus is the chief Corner stone on which all scripture is built on.
A creed that mirrors the authoritative word of God IS the foundational truth which our faith stands on.
Your creed is "Christ Crucified, buried , and resurrected", but what does that mean?
The creed I shared is "Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28)."
Do you see that my wording merely elaborates what you said and provides supporting Scripture?
My creed also explained who God is, why we need faith in Christ, the role of the Holy Spirit, and the
importance of learning God's Word, all of which you omitted.
Which creed/way of stating God's requirement for salvation is better?
The problem seems to be that inferior creeds blind you from seeing the NT creed, which is what I attempt to share/reflect.
Again, your creed is inadequate because it is too short and did not even mention the Trinity, whereas mine does:
1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), which means trying to obey (Phil. 3:12, 1John 1:8) His commandment to love one another (Matt. 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2).
5. Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with those who freely accept Him (Rev. 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven when by means of persevering in learning Truth/God’s Word/sanctification everyone cooperates fully with His will (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4). Such cooperation can be termed “the surrendered life”.
Additionally, my elaboration of the creed includes the reason humans need salvation:
2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
It also explains that God provided a way to be saved for those who lived before the Gospel was revealed:
6. This creed summarizes revelation of the NT Gospel/Truth (Matt. 26:13, John 14:6), which fulfilled the OT revelation (Matt. 5:17, John 19:30, Heb. 7:11-10:10) and culminates the search for salvation by souls who know only general revelation (Rom. 1:20, 2:14-16, Matt. 7:12). Seeking begins when souls love truth/repent of false beliefs (2Thes. 2:10&13, Matt. 4:17, 7:7), which is the Way to eternal life God wills, who is the Lord Jesus (Matt. 7:14, John 1:14, 4:24, 14:6). Lacking this love leads to believing lies and debauchery (Matt. 7:6, Rom. 1:18&25-26, 2Thes. 2:11-12).
What have I either left out that God requires a person to believe at least implicitly in order to be saved,
or what have I included that is not required implicitly by the normative NT way of stating the creed succinctly?
The normative way of stating the kerygma/GRFS in the NT is “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in Acts 16:31, 2Cor. 4:5 & Col. 2:6)
or “Love Jesus as Messiah and Lord” (John 8:42). The main points of Christian orthodoxy implicit in these statements can be explained or elaborated in the six points above.
why is it I have to be Blind? That why I can't take you seriously. You are very arrogant. I asked you a question, do you hold to the doctrine of the Trinity yes or no? Your creed to me is less important than the Nicene Creed or the Apostles Creed do you hold to those two, yes or no? Simple questions.
20 “I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you…
Look at this scriptur
jesus prob did nyot say believe as we natural freely say i believe this or that .Jesus probably used a word of Very Old Powerful absolute meaning Aman
Jesus Prayed for me future that i recieve Others Words Speaking Gospel.This same of The Anointing is For ME As They to Speak Gospel in my words as they had their words written from within them
as jesus says This is one in Him, One Holy Spirit One Parah bear one Seed, one fruit Jesus Glorified Quickened
one is Not as we see or think One is In Him Completely! This is written in poor eye sight Even .To be so much in Him that The Whole World Knows .When you Aman Parah Ruach This is the Perfect Will of Jesus prayer. And all you got to do is come the Gospel of Jesus will do the rest just look what he did and follow Jesus goes to the water you go to the water by going to the water the the holy spirit will come upon.
it may not be exactly the same as Jesus but it will be the same Holy Spirit as he Has This is The Main one To Be in Him no need add a million sscriptures Jesus said it all when you know him you're understand it all.
Look at this scriptur
jesus prob did nyot say believe as we natural freely say i believe this or that .Jesus probably used a word of Very Old Powerful absolute meaning Aman
Jesus Prayed for me future that i recieve Others Words Speaking Gospel.This same of The Anointing is For ME As They to Speak Gospel in my words as they had their words written from within them
as jesus says This is one in Him, One Holy Spirit One Parah bear one Seed, one fruit Jesus Glorified Quickened
one is Not as we see or think One is In Him Completely! This is written in poor eye sight Even .To be so much in Him that The Whole World Knows .When you Aman Parah Ruach This is the Perfect Will of Jesus prayer. And all you got to do is come the Gospel of Jesus will do the rest just look what he did and follow Jesus goes to the water you go to the water by going to the water the the holy spirit will come upon.
it may not be exactly the same as Jesus but it will be the same Holy Spirit as he Has This is The Main one To Be in Him no need add a million sscriptures Jesus said it all when you know him you're understand it all.
You do not have to be blind, but you obviously choose not to see the three points about the Trinity that I posted in #804 and again in #813. How is stating that fact being arrogant? Denying that truth and asking my view of the Trinity a third time is arrogance!
Post whatever creed you believe/hold to and we can compare it with the NT creed I shared.
If you refuse and insist on being obtuse I cannot take you seriously.
I asked you what is your "creed "that differs from the Nicene and the Apostles Creed. You said I was blind I can't take you serious when you insult and then expect me to listen to you. You are arrogant. Again, long drawn out post just say There is nothing different from my Creed from the ones you listed. Or there is a difference.