How can I make things right

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jsr1221

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I grew up in a hate filled house during my childhood and adolescent years, which caused me to not have the best relationship with my mom. I have an older sister who's an alcoholic and has cut off everyone, and she has a son that she lets no one see. My mom has issues going with my grandmother, aunt, and uncle going back since I was a kid, so really I'm the only family she has. Long story short she's always been level headed and stubborn, and has always had a short fuse. I've tried working on having a better relationship, because I feel bad that she has burned bridges with everyone else, but it seems whenever I'm around her I'm always anxious and emotionally drained. It's taken a toll on me but at the end of the day I've always let it go. Today she snapped because I didn't give her any money as a Christmas gift (I know there are threads about Christmas; please don't bring the drama from them in here.) She knows it took til the end of the year to land a job after college, and knows I'm starting to pay student loans and trying to save to go to graduate school, yet because she struggles financially herself she always tries to live off me. I can't keep going through this process, and sometimes I just want to withdraw myself from her life. I know how awful that may sound, but I can't keep feeling miserable whenever I'm around her. Any one else struggle with something similar or can give their opinion?
 
jsr, I haven't had the best relationship with my parents (especially my mom) over the years. Recently I've learned I need to forgive her in order to move on with my life, and be forgiven by God myself. Just because she has her own money struggles shouldn't mean that she has to rely on you to give her $$ on a regular basis. Her expecting to receive money from you for Christmas is presumptuous and greedy. Are there programs in your area that could help the two of you out with each of your finances? Turn this situation over to God, let it go and let him handle it for you. It will turn out the way it's supposed to. :)
 
I grew up in a hate filled house during my childhood and adolescent years, which caused me to not have the best relationship with my mom. I have an older sister who's an alcoholic and has cut off everyone, and she has a son that she lets no one see. My mom has issues going with my grandmother, aunt, and uncle going back since I was a kid, so really I'm the only family she has. Long story short she's always been level headed and stubborn, and has always had a short fuse. I've tried working on having a better relationship, because I feel bad that she has burned bridges with everyone else, but it seems whenever I'm around her I'm always anxious and emotionally drained. It's taken a toll on me but at the end of the day I've always let it go. Today she snapped because I didn't give her any money as a Christmas gift (I know there are threads about Christmas; please don't bring the drama from them in here.) She knows it took til the end of the year to land a job after college, and knows I'm starting to pay student loans and trying to save to go to graduate school, yet because she struggles financially herself she always tries to live off me. I can't keep going through this process, and sometimes I just want to withdraw myself from her life. I know how awful that may sound, but I can't keep feeling miserable whenever I'm around her. Any one else struggle with something similar or can give their opinion?

Hello jsr1221,

I had a similar situation with my mother. For years I was oppressed by my mother and her bitterness. One day, when I was about your age and living on my own, I was at my grandfather's house, my mother's father. I had just visited my mother and explained to him, how, whenever I would visit her she always seemed to get upset with me about something and I would leave feeling bad. Do you know what he said to me?

He said, lovingly, "Son, a wise man doesn't keep sticking his head in a hornets nest."

For me, more profound words had never been uttered. I felt instant relief! The burden I had had concerning my mother was gone.

My grandfather was a Godly man, and he knew how his daughter was. His words of wisdom set me free. I had never considered "not going around her" as an option. But as soon as the words were out of his mouth I knew he was right.

Not long after that, I realized how I truly felt about my mother. I made up my mind not to go see her again and told God, "I love her, and I forgive her for all she has ever done against me."

At some point after this, a year or so, my mother came to find me and went to the house next door, thinking that was where I lived. She ranted and raved for a few minutes, probably high on prescription drugs, screaming all kinds of mean and hateful things at the front door (nobody was home.) Then she left.

She died a few years later. I sat in church during her eulogy and didn't shed a tear. For to me she had died many years before. Sitting there, in perfect peace, I thought, "What a wasted life. Mom, you could have had better."

Yes, like you, it all sounds awful. But my decision was the right one for me. I won't tell you it's right for you. Get somewhere quiet and talk to the Lord. Ask Him to guide you in this. Listen for an answer. He may quicken your heart right then with the answer. If not, He may wait till later, or give a sign. Trust Him and do what He says.

If you distance yourself from your mother, for the reasons you've mentioned, it will not make you a bad son. And you should not, "...feel bad that she has burned bridges with everyone else." That's her decision not yours.

It's OK to put yourself first in this situation, jsr1221. And you must!

God's grace and wisdom be with you, my brother. And it is!

With love,
joseph
 
Happy Christmas to you, jsr. :)

yeah...the holidays, money, and family...we can make such a mess of it...
wish i had great advice to give, but i offer this thought...

Christmas. it brings out the best and the worst, both in us and in life.
i mean, it can (and should) bring joy to Christians because...Jesus!
but it also makes us more acutely aware of life's problems, money being one.

think of the people who perhaps just lost a loved one,
or just found out this will probably be their last Christmas on this planet.
people whose children don't contact them, or some other family member...
people who are struggling to feed their families...
it all gets felt more at Christmas...the sweet and the bitter things of life.

that's probably happening for both you and your mother.
that said--if you can't help her...you can't.
if you believe you can't have her in your life at all...you can't.
i'd pray about that part, if it were me...once ties are cut, it's hard to mend them.

you don't have to have this disfunctional relationship with her,
but (again, if it were me) i'd try talking to her about the fact you're at this point.
perhaps you already have, so please forgive me if i'm misunderstanding?
i'm really sorry you're going through all this,
and i will surely pray for you. ♥
 
Jsr1221


Joseph fled from evil with all his might. For he knew if he stayed, it would corrupt him. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Seeing your mom is suffering from some past issues that she has refused to disclose to the family is what is causing this riff..no one is just angry unless something has happened that they can't get over by themselves, so anyone within their circle is poisoned. My mom was an alcoholic. Even though all of her children went into foster care and her mom talked to her time and time again, nothing could penetrate that stubborn heart. At last she died alone in the hospital. I loved her but was also her by her. She was sweet and kind to anyone who was in need but that deadly habit got the best of was was best for her. I believe she wanted out but was too helpless to get out plus having to go through a painful marriage with my dad. He claims she cheated on him..my father was physically abusive to mom. She packed up and left with all of us while dad was at work. It was the worse thing for us because eventually we all ended up in foster care. I loved mom and was willing to care for her but she said to me, "If I can't have my liquor, I can't live with you." These were the words I heard from her before she died. You see my grandfather made homemade liquor and gave to his children and all turned out to be alcoholics except for one plus my grandfather was abusive to my grandmother. You see how this disease of abuse and alcoholism is a vicious cycle. So I say, run and don't look back or you will turn to a pillar of salt. Meaning it will kill everything inside you. Keep her in prayer. I always prayed for my mom. Its hard to see a loved one out in the storms of life but won't reach out for help or don't realize they are sick. God has such a big heart, who know what He will do concerning the mentally ill. I don't know if she will be part of the righteous when Christ comes to call this righteous from their graves. But I pray so because only God knows the heart of humanity. Is anything too hard for God?
 
This relationship sounds like some kind of reverse enabling!

Do not give your mother any more money. She needs to get her own life in order, and not destroy yours. She sounds greedy and selfish, to demand money from you at Christmas. Christmas should never be about getting, but rather giving. Your mother needs to be cut off. There is a reason, sadly, that the rest of the familly has cut her off.

Don't let her manipulate you with guilt. She is just using you, rather than changing her lifestyle and her selfish ways.

I wonder if you are a Christian? That does not mean raised in a church, or born into a Christian family. It means knowing Jesus Christ. I just ask, because besides have the Holy Spirit to lead and guide you, you could start to pray for your mom to know God and for God to change her.

Really, only God can help your mother, at this point. And only God can help you. Please PM me if you want to talk about this a little more in depth.
 
Hi jsr1221,

You appear to be a very loving individual. Kudos for getting a degree, too. Those aren't normal results of someone who grew up in a household such as the one you describe.

I would talk talk to a person you respect about this, telling how you plan to cut ties, or severely loosen ties to your mother. It's likely you haven't talked to a friend or family member about your feelings, in order to afford your mom some dignity. But you need to tell someone to get the support you need, because it won't be easy on your mom and you will need to be strong. A counselor can give you specific strategical advice regarding exactly how to accomplish your goal, so you are effective. And God can open the right doors to implement a break. It might be the best gift you ever gave to your mother, in the end.
 
I grew up in a hate filled house during my childhood and adolescent years, which caused me to not have the best relationship with my mom. I have an older sister who's an alcoholic and has cut off everyone, and she has a son that she lets no one see. My mom has issues going with my grandmother, aunt, and uncle going back since I was a kid, so really I'm the only family she has. Long story short she's always been level headed and stubborn, and has always had a short fuse. I've tried working on having a better relationship, because I feel bad that she has burned bridges with everyone else, but it seems whenever I'm around her I'm always anxious and emotionally drained. It's taken a toll on me but at the end of the day I've always let it go. Today she snapped because I didn't give her any money as a Christmas gift (I know there are threads about Christmas; please don't bring the drama from them in here.) She knows it took til the end of the year to land a job after college, and knows I'm starting to pay student loans and trying to save to go to graduate school, yet because she struggles financially herself she always tries to live off me. I can't keep going through this process, and sometimes I just want to withdraw myself from her life. I know how awful that may sound, but I can't keep feeling miserable whenever I'm around her. Any one else struggle with something similar or can give their opinion?

That's a difficult situation for sure. I can relate to some extent being married to a woman from Southeast Asia where the boundaries are a drawn a bit differently when it comes to supporting parents than they are here.

In Jesus' day, it was considered an adult child's responsibility to care for his parents. The Talmud, written much later, goes into some detail on this. The Jerusalem Talmud taught it was the child's responsibility to provide for his parents. The Babylonian Talmud taught it was the child's responsibility after the parents' resources were exhausted. The Jews in Babylon tended to be richer than Jews in Jerusalem.

In Jesus' day, there were Pharisees who had tried to argue their way out of supporting parents. So they came up with this interpretation that if someone swore all of the money he would give to his parents as a gift devoted to God, that he didn't have to give to his parents. Jesus rebuked this teaching soundly in Matthew 15.

If you don't have any money to give your mom, you don't have any money. If you have a little, you could give a little as a token gift to her if that's what she wants. I don't like the idea of parents trying to squeeze out of their kids, either. I'm glad my parents want to give me more, but don't because they don't have it. I'd like to give to them, too.
 
I grew up in a hate filled house during my childhood and adolescent years, which caused me to not have the best relationship with my mom. I have an older sister who's an alcoholic and has cut off everyone, and she has a son that she lets no one see. My mom has issues going with my grandmother, aunt, and uncle going back since I was a kid, so really I'm the only family she has. Long story short she's always been level headed and stubborn, and has always had a short fuse. I've tried working on having a better relationship, because I feel bad that she has burned bridges with everyone else, but it seems whenever I'm around her I'm always anxious and emotionally drained. It's taken a toll on me but at the end of the day I've always let it go. Today she snapped because I didn't give her any money as a Christmas gift (I know there are threads about Christmas; please don't bring the drama from them in here.) She knows it took til the end of the year to land a job after college, and knows I'm starting to pay student loans and trying to save to go to graduate school, yet because she struggles financially herself she always tries to live off me. I can't keep going through this process, and sometimes I just want to withdraw myself from her life. I know how awful that may sound, but I can't keep feeling miserable whenever I'm around her. Any one else struggle with something similar or can give their opinion?

First, I would start by practicing/learning how to compartmentalize things... and more specifically; her relationship with the rest of the family ought to go in one box, and then your own relationship with her (just the 2 of you) in a separate box. What that means is: All the choices she's made, decision to cut all ties, and the reasons that led her to doing that (justifiable or non-justifiable); leave all that out of the way and "box" them for now... so you can just focus on this particular case: Her and You, and this last Christmas incident.

So once your mind is no longer shattered in a million places at the same time, take a moment to think, meditate on every word that you must use to convey the intended message without causing any damages... and once you're ready, call her up and sit down for a conversation.

She needs to understand everything you just shared with us here... that you are not a millionaire (or at least not yet), that you owe money to people who funded your schooling; and that you also need to save for graduate school.

"And so, here's the bottom line. I just told you all these things so that you can understand why I started slowing down on giving you money... and the reason why this slowing down is going to continue, probably even go completely dry. If for instance I don't give you money ever again, I want you to know why. And obviously I'm not saying 'never', we both know that a day will come when I'll be the richest person in the world... then you'll have all the money you want. But for the moment, you should open your eyes and see that I am the one who actually needs help. That it's you who ought to be helping me with my loans and my upcoming studies."

If she's the "short fuse" kinda woman, the conversation will have to be short, brief but clear. Brief and concise. (Otherwise you won't get to the bottom line part before she snaps.)

All I just said here isn't really about making things right. After all, we haven't even touched Box 1 yet... and even Box 2, we're only addressing the money incident of this last Christmas... but this is to show you that you can't take it all at once. God will make a way (he always does), but be prepared that this "way" may turn out to be rather much more painful. She may decide to cut you out, just like she already did the rest of the family. Be prepared for all possibilities, and trust in the Lord; because whatever word comes out of your mouth (the day you meet to chat about this), the Holy Spirit will speak and not you. So whatever happens afterward, don't feel guilty or anything: Just blame it all on God.

If the outcome is great, let God take all the praise. Not you. And if the outcome is a disaster, let God take the blame. Not you.