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noblenut

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it is stated in Isiah the he will not cry out or his voice be heard on the street, now Jesus spoke publicly and he cries out in the temple, so how can this statement be about him
 

Magenta

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Isaiah 42 (NIV)

The Servant of the Lord

“Here is my servant, whom I uphold,
my chosen one in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will bring justice to the nations.


2 He will not shout or cry out,
or raise his voice in the streets.


3 A bruised reed he will not break,
and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out.
In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;


4 he will not falter or be discouraged
till he establishes justice on earth.
In his teaching the islands will put their hope.”


5 This is what God the Lord says—
the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out,
who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it,
who gives breath to its people,
and life to those who walk on it:


6 “I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and a light for the Gentiles,


7 to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.


8 “I am the Lord; that is my name!
I will not yield my glory to another
or my praise to idols.


9 See, the former things have taken place,
and new things I declare;
before they spring into being
I announce them to you.”


Song of Praise to the Lord
10 Sing to the Lord a new song,
his praise from the ends of the earth,
you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it,
you islands, and all who live in them.


11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices;
let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice.
Let the people of Sela sing for joy;
let them shout from the mountaintops.


12 Let them give glory to the Lord
and proclaim his praise in the islands.


13 The Lord will march out like a champion,
like a warrior he will stir up his zeal;
with a shout he will raise the battle cry
and will triumph over his enemies.


14 “For a long time I have kept silent,
I have been quiet and held myself back.
But now, like a woman in childbirth,
I cry out, I gasp and pant.


15 I will lay waste the mountains and hills
and dry up all their vegetation;
I will turn rivers into islands
and dry up the pools.


16 I will lead the blind by ways they have not known,
along unfamiliar paths I will guide them;
I will turn the darkness into light before them
and make the rough places smooth.
These are the things I will do;
I will not forsake them.


17 But those who trust in idols,
who say to images, ‘You are our gods,’
will be turned back in utter shame.


Israel Blind and Deaf
18 “Hear, you deaf;
look, you blind, and see!


19 Who is blind but my servant,
and deaf like the messenger I send?
Who is blind like the one in covenant with me,
blind like the servant of the Lord?


20 You have seen many things, but you pay no attention;
your ears are open, but you do not listen.”


21 It pleased the Lord
for the sake of his righteousness
to make his law great and glorious.


22 But this is a people plundered and looted,
all of them trapped in pits
or hidden away in prisons.
They have become plunder,
with no one to rescue them;
they have been made loot,
with no one to say, “Send them back.”


23 Which of you will listen to this
or pay close attention in time to come?


24 Who handed Jacob over to become loot,
and Israel to the plunderers?
Was it not the Lord,
against whom we have sinned?
For they would not follow his ways;
they did not obey his law.


25 So he poured out on them his burning anger,
the violence of war.
It enveloped them in flames, yet they did not understand;
it consumed them, but they did not take it to heart.
 

noblenut

Junior Member
Nov 29, 2017
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#3
Isaiah 42 (NIV)

The Servant of the Lord
“Here is my servant, whom I uphold,
my chosen one in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will bring justice to the nations.


2 He will not shout or cry out,
or raise his voice in the streets.


3 A bruised reed he will not break,
and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out.
In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;


4 he will not falter or be discouraged
till he establishes justice on earth.
In his teaching the islands will put their hope.”


5 This is what God the Lord says—
the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out,
who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it,
who gives breath to its people,
and life to those who walk on it:


6 “I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and a light for the Gentiles,


7 to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.


8 “I am the Lord; that is my name!
I will not yield my glory to another
or my praise to idols.


9 See, the former things have taken place,
and new things I declare;
before they spring into being
I announce them to you.”


Song of Praise to the Lord
10 Sing to the Lord a new song,
his praise from the ends of the earth,
you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it,
you islands, and all who live in them.


11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices;
let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice.
Let the people of Sela sing for joy;
let them shout from the mountaintops.


12 Let them give glory to the Lord
and proclaim his praise in the islands.


13 The Lord will march out like a champion,
like a warrior he will stir up his zeal;
with a shout he will raise the battle cry
and will triumph over his enemies.


14 “For a long time I have kept silent,
I have been quiet and held myself back.
But now, like a woman in childbirth,
I cry out, I gasp and pant.


15 I will lay waste the mountains and hills
and dry up all their vegetation;
I will turn rivers into islands
and dry up the pools.


16 I will lead the blind by ways they have not known,
along unfamiliar paths I will guide them;
I will turn the darkness into light before them
and make the rough places smooth.
These are the things I will do;
I will not forsake them.


17 But those who trust in idols,
who say to images, ‘You are our gods,’
will be turned back in utter shame.


Israel Blind and Deaf
18 “Hear, you deaf;
look, you blind, and see!


19 Who is blind but my servant,
and deaf like the messenger I send?
Who is blind like the one in covenant with me,
blind like the servant of the Lord?


20 You have seen many things, but you pay no attention;
your ears are open, but you do not listen.”


21 It pleased the Lord
for the sake of his righteousness
to make his law great and glorious.


22 But this is a people plundered and looted,
all of them trapped in pits
or hidden away in prisons.
They have become plunder,
with no one to rescue them;
they have been made loot,
with no one to say, “Send them back.”


23 Which of you will listen to this
or pay close attention in time to come?


24 Who handed Jacob over to become loot,
and Israel to the plunderers?
Was it not the Lord,
against whom we have sinned?
For they would not follow his ways;
they did not obey his law.


25 So he poured out on them his burning anger,
the violence of war.
It enveloped them in flames, yet they did not understand;
it consumed them, but they did not take it to heart.
how does quoting a bunch of bible verses answer the question? u could at least endeavor to give an opinion
 
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#4
it is stated in Isiah the he will not cry out or his voice be heard on the street, now Jesus spoke publicly and he cries out in the temple, so how can this statement be about him
I think “cry out” has something to do with defending himself against false accusations brought against HIM and HE shall bring forth judgement unto truth means HE will look at the Inside of men where the truth of how they really feel Is located.
 

noblenut

Junior Member
Nov 29, 2017
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#5
I think “cry out” has something to do with defending himself against false accusations brought against HIM and HE shall bring forth judgement unto truth means HE will look at the Inside of men where the truth of how they really feel Is located.
that's a good explanation thanks, maybe u can provide one for my other post think about it.
 

FollowHisSteps

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Feb 15, 2019
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it is stated in Isiah the he will not cry out or his voice be heard on the street, now Jesus spoke publicly and he cries out in the temple, so how can this statement be about him
A tough ruler, comes in judgement, and puts things right, forcing those who rebel to death,
and putting the rest in prison or under warning of punishment.

This is how a King comes to reign, if by force.
And the message in doing this, is disobey and you will be obliterated.

God truly could do this, and show He is the Lord of Hosts, the King of Kings.

But He comes quietly, sharing His heart, humbly calling those who will listen.
His justice will be established, because it is true, and life itself will recognise
both its wisdom and truth.

This conquering is by the heart and not by physical force.
And in the end Gods victory will be displayed, the mountains will be levelled and
the valleys filled in. Nothing can stop this victory or reality.

Defeated Kings need to dominate, God does not, because He is victorious but He
desires to call and find His people, Amen.
 

noblenut

Junior Member
Nov 29, 2017
265
90
28
#7
A tough ruler, comes in judgement, and puts things right, forcing those who rebel to death,
and putting the rest in prison or under warning of punishment.

This is how a King comes to reign, if by force.
And the message in doing this, is disobey and you will be obliterated.

God truly could do this, and show He is the Lord of Hosts, the King of Kings.

But He comes quietly, sharing His heart, humbly calling those who will listen.
His justice will be established, because it is true, and life itself will recognise
both its wisdom and truth.

This conquering is by the heart and not by physical force.
And in the end Gods victory will be displayed, the mountains will be levelled and
the valleys filled in. Nothing can stop this victory or reality.

Defeated Kings need to dominate, God does not, because He is victorious but He
desires to call and find His people, Amen.
i am not sure that addresses the question but good point
 
Dec 12, 2013
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He went to the slaughter like a sheep which will stand there and let you cut it's throat....he did not defend himself or his cause....he had a mission....he was innocent yet had to bleed and die for humanity to please the Heavenly Father........
 

louis

Senior Member
Nov 1, 2017
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#10
it is stated in Isiah the he will not cry out or his voice be heard on the street, now Jesus spoke publicly and he cries out in the temple, so how can this statement be about him
Jesus went into Jerusalem with all the people praising Him for all the miracles He did, and yet a couple of days later they were all crying out for his crucifixtion at the direction of their religious leaders.
So while many may have heard words from Jesus on the street, they apparantly did not comprehend/hear what He was saying.
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
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#11
how does quoting a bunch of bible verses answer the question? u could at least endeavor to give an opinion
I endeavored to give context to the Scripture you referenced without providing, so others could easily see them for them selves.