How close are we to the 7 years of the tribulation

[Jackson123]

This preacher believe all the recent economic and political chaos will lead to the need of one world leader.

Make me remember of Hegelian doctrine.

German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, formula

Thesis, antithesis and synthesis.

I believe Hegel try to formulate what happen in everyday life.

Say there is a war, (thesis) most people do not comfortable with this phenomena, no power, because army destroy power plan, no food etc people cry for peace (antithesis).

We need solution (synthesis)

Why there is a war. War is fight between country, why not make one world country. If only one country in the whole world, the war between country not going to happen.

I believe Hegel not teach a manipulation.

What happen now is reversal.

I want to make one world government, but no body agree

To make every body agree, I will create a big war and chaos. It will make people cry for solution, than I the bad guy that secretly create a war come as savior to offer solution. You want a peace? Let make one world government, start with united nation, than one world financial system, than one world religion.

 

[Absolutely]

I believe sadhu is post trib rapture.

The rapture will happen before the GT

 

[MattforJesus]

The people that want the nations to come together go by controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

WW1, League of Nations, WW2, United Nations, WW3, Islam against the world which the world will accept the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth, and the other conflicts that they use.

When the nations come together they will split the world in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

The Hegel System might be this.

1.Thesis- America and that type of system.

2.Russia- and that type of system.

3.Synthesis- back to the first but in a higher form, the ten horn kingdom with the traits of both that they believe will produce a better system that either one alone.

Republican- conservative, Democrat- liberal, also a Hegel principle.

So it seems like the purpose would get everyone involved for they will choose a side, but there is no solution with them going back and forth, and against each other, and a compromise is made that brings them together.

But the main thing is to get everyone involved by setting up opposites, and then they come together, instead of having only one type system, and people that oppose it are left out, for that will not bring the people together.

An example is America is considered spiritual, and many a personal God, and Russia atheist, evolution, but the new age movement which is the future for this world, is atheist, evolution, but spiritual, and the New Age Christ the one that will cause them to be spiritual, a blending of the two.

They want to bring the nations together so they want to involve all people, and beliefs in this, that will cause them to believe they are compatible, their differences do not matter in the bigger scheme of things, and the religions all have truth.

The Bible says the last king by peace shall destroy many, and it is the end time so the devil is trying to get the world together by a peace plan so that he can deceive all those who do not love God, which he has been trying to deceive for years, but God is allowing the world to rebel against Him so He can end this sin business on earth, so the devil is influencing the wicked to set up the beast kingdom, and use the man of sin to deceive all people who do not love God, and to go against everyone physically that opposes the beast kingdom.

So while people argue Republican or Democrat, they are working together, at least in the higher positions of government.

And Trump is also part of the plan, and introduced the microchip in connection with 9/11, and that people on temporary visas should have a chip implanted which it is obvious so they can keep track of them, which the mark of the beast will be a tracking device so they can cut down on crime because they can keep track of the people, a GPS for humans.

Do not be fooled for it is 2 steps forward, and 1 step back, 2 steps forward, and 1 step back, but they are still making progress, in case someone might think there is actually hope for America to be like it once was in the past, for America will go along with the nations as they come together and try to establish peace on earth, for that is the plan, not America as a single nation.

They wanted the illegals from Mexico to run across the border in to America, and have that problem, and to argue over the wall being built, so they can have a solution, no more border, no more problem, as well as the Canadian border which they are working with America, super nation number 1 of the ten horn kingdom.

America and Russia have been together, and Republican and Democrat have been together, all the while people are arguing.

 

[Jackson123]

I believe sadhu is post trib rapture.

The rapture will happen before the GT

Seem to me he is post trib, so he warn people to prepare for the persecution.

 

[Jackson123]

The people that want the nations to come together go by controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

WW1, League of Nations, WW2, United Nations, WW3, Islam against the world which the world will accept the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth, and the other conflicts that they use.

When the nations come together they will split the world in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

The Hegel System might be this.

1.Thesis- America and that type of system.

2.Russia- and that type of system.

3.Synthesis- back to the first but in a higher form, the ten horn kingdom with the traits of both that they believe will produce a better system that either one alone.

Republican- conservative, Democrat- liberal, also a Hegel principle.

So it seems like the purpose would get everyone involved for they will choose a side, but there is no solution with them going back and forth, and against each other, and a compromise is made that brings them together.

But the main thing is to get everyone involved by setting up opposites, and then they come together, instead of having only one type system, and people that oppose it are left out, for that will not bring the people together.

An example is America is considered spiritual, and many a personal God, and Russia atheist, evolution, but the new age movement which is the future for this world, is atheist, evolution, but spiritual, and the New Age Christ the one that will cause them to be spiritual, a blending of the two.

They want to bring the nations together so they want to involve all people, and beliefs in this, that will cause them to believe they are compatible, their differences do not matter in the bigger scheme of things, and the religions all have truth.

The Bible says the last king by peace shall destroy many, and it is the end time so the devil is trying to get the world together by a peace plan so that he can deceive all those who do not love God, which he has been trying to deceive for years, but God is allowing the world to rebel against Him so He can end this sin business on earth, so the devil is influencing the wicked to set up the beast kingdom, and use the man of sin to deceive all people who do not love God, and to go against everyone physically that opposes the beast kingdom.

So while people argue Republican or Democrat, they are working together, at least in the higher positions of government.

And Trump is also part of the plan, and introduced the microchip in connection with 9/11, and that people on temporary visas should have a chip implanted which it is obvious so they can keep track of them, which the mark of the beast will be a tracking device so they can cut down on crime because they can keep track of the people, a GPS for humans.

Do not be fooled for it is 2 steps forward, and 1 step back, 2 steps forward, and 1 step back, but they are still making progress, in case someone might think there is actually hope for America to be like it once was in the past, for America will go along with the nations as they come together and try to establish peace on earth, for that is the plan, not America as a single nation.

They wanted the illegals from Mexico to run across the border in to America, and have that problem, and to argue over the wall being built, so they can have a solution, no more border, no more problem, as well as the Canadian border which they are working with America, super nation number 1 of the ten horn kingdom.

America and Russia have been together, and Republican and Democrat have been together, all the while people are arguing.

Yep, the devil reverse Hegel formula.

Instead of solving problem, he create problem to achieve his ambition to rule the world.

He secretly create a war to make people crying for peace then he offer false peace. If only one religion, there will be no religion war. Look reasonable, but poison.

 

[Absolutely]

Seem to me he is post trib, so he warn people to prepare for the persecution.

I am pretrib rapture and believe we will see persecution.
The church is removed at the beginning.

 

[Jackson123]

I am pretrib rapture and believe we will see persecution.
The church is removed at the beginning.

Seem to me pretrib believe the church remove before persecution/tribulation, or you believe there is persecution before tribulation?

 

[leean]

Which church is currently persecuted?

 

[Jackson123]

Which church is currently persecuted?

Church has been the target of persecution since the first century. The Bible documented how people kill Stephen, Peter went to jail, Paul was arrested, etc.


Jesus give us garantee that the world will hate us.
Persecution is kind of guarantee, but there will be big tribulation like never before in the last 7 years
John 15

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

https://www.opendoorsusa.org/christian-persecution/

Trends show that countries in Africa, Asia and the Middle East are intensifying persecution against Christians, and perhaps the most vulnerable are Christian women, who often face double persecution for faith and gender.


Matt 24

21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Which church is currently persecuted?

Not "which church" but "the Church". The Church is the Body of Christ, and the Church is under persecution right now in many parts of the world.

But the Tribulation (3 1/2 years) and the Great Tribulation (3 1/2 years) have nothing to do with the Church. Those are periods of God's wrath (along with Satan's wrath against the saint of God during that time).

The Church and the Holy Spirit will be absent from the earth when God allows Satan and the Antichrist to take TOTAL CONTROL of all the inhabitants of the earth (Revelation 13). At that time the Tribulation saints will ALL be beheaded by the Antichrist for refusing to take the Mark of the Beast (Revelation 20:4).

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

As to how close we are to the Tribulation period, it would seem that it is not too far away. However a temple in Jerusalem must be built before that time, and preparations are already in progress for this temple.

 

[cv5]

This preacher believe all the recent economic and political chaos will lead to the need of one world leader.

Make me remember of Hegelian doctrine.

German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, formula

Thesis, antithesis and synthesis.

I believe Hegel try to formulate what happen in everyday life.

Say there is a war, (thesis) most people do not comfortable with this phenomena, no power, because army destroy power plan, no food etc people cry for peace (antithesis).

We need solution (synthesis)

Why there is a war. War is fight between country, why not make one world country. If only one country in the whole world, the war between country not going to happen.

I believe Hegel not teach a manipulation.

What happen now is reversal.

I want to make one world government, but no body agree

To make every body agree, I will create a big war and chaos. It will make people cry for solution, than I the bad guy that secretly create a war come as savior to offer solution. You want a peace? Let make one world government, start with united nation, than one world financial system, than one world religion.

A generation or less IMO. We are very very close.

 

[Jackson123]

Not "which church" but "the Church". The Church is the Body of Christ, and the Church is under persecution right now in many parts of the world.

But the Tribulation (3 1/2 years) and the Great Tribulation (3 1/2 years) have nothing to do with the Church. Those are periods of God's wrath (along with Satan's wrath against the saint of God during that time).

The Church and the Holy Spirit will be absent from the earth when God allows Satan and the Antichrist to take TOTAL CONTROL of all the inhabitants of the earth (Revelation 13). At that time the Tribulation saints will ALL be beheaded by the Antichrist for refusing to take the Mark of the Beast (Revelation 20:4).

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

As to how close we are to the Tribulation period, it would seem that it is not too far away. However a temple in Jerusalem must be built before that time, and preparations are already in progress for this temple.

Seem to me brother Nehemiah believe in pretrib. But the preacher in the youtube, and me believe in post trib.

 

[Jackson123]

A generation or less IMO. We are very very close.

I agree, from the news I can read. how evil try to make one world government, seem to me vatican is the main lucifer agent to do his job.

If you google who promote one world government, we found thousand of article how pope promote this antichrist government.

This link below is one among thausand

https://prophecyinthenews.com/world...ls-for-one-world-government-to-save-humanity/

Why Trump and Clinton make a campaign, because he and she want to be a president, and their friend helping them to campaign, their work for them, most of them are work not free, if they win, the helper may
Get a good position in the cabinet.

I believe pope promote one world government, because when it happen, he will become one of the leader

This government is the antichrist government. No matter what, God let them win for 7 years. A short time win.

 

[cv5]

I agree, from the news I can read. how evil try to make one world government, seem to me vatican is the main lucifer agent to do his job.

If you google who promote one world government, we found thousand of article how pope promote this antichrist government.

This link below is one among thausand

https://prophecyinthenews.com/world...ls-for-one-world-government-to-save-humanity/

Why Trump and Clinton make a campaign, because he and she want to be a president, and their friend helping them to campaign, their work for them, most of them are work not free, if they win, the helper may
Get a good position in the cabinet.

I believe pope promote one world government, because when it happen, he will become one of the leader

This government is the antichrist government. No matter what, God let them win for 7 years. A short time win.

https://tinyurl.com/y3qeg2hj

Undoubtedly the Vatican is up to its eyebrows in this grim end time debacle. Precisely how is as of yet unknown.

 

[Locutus]

Ya missed it by 1953 years. Suggest time machine if you want to go back and experience it.

 

[Absolutely]

Seem to me pretrib believe the church remove before persecution/tribulation, or you believe there is persecution before tribulation?

If believers are rounded up and detained in huge giant facilities for a few hours,days,weeks before the reapture,it is still a pretrib rapture.
That concept would,without a doubt, contain a ton of mocking. "I thought you guys said we would fly away....HA HA HA"

Then wham,they stay behind.

.......to be martyred.

 

[Absolutely]

Seem to me brother Nehemiah believe in pretrib. But the preacher in the youtube, and me believe in post trib.

There are no postrib rapture verses.
None

 

[Absolutely]

Seem to me he is post trib, so he warn people to prepare for the persecution.

He is right.
All opposed to the soon coming rapture will stay behind to do business with the AC.
Most refuse the mark and are beheaded.
Those recieving the mark will believe they did the right thing.
" look what happened to those refusing this wonderful mark"

There are no "tribulation saints"running from cave to cave.
They all die. All believers die,except for the Jews swept away by God to petra or another location.
The trib is jacobs trouble.
The church is destroyed right away.
Enter Gods dealing with earths inhabitants and the Jews

 

[Jackson123]

He is right.
All opposed to the soon coming rapture will stay behind to do business with the AC.
Most refuse the mark and are beheaded.
Those recieving the mark will believe they did the right thing.
" look what happened to those refusing this wonderful mark"

There are no "tribulation saints"running from cave to cave.
They all die. All believers die,except for the Jews swept away by God to petra or another location.
The trib is jacobs trouble.
The church is destroyed right away.
Enter Gods dealing with earths inhabitants and the Jews

I agree with you about most that refuse the mark of the beast will beheaded.

I believe that group are Christian.

So base on that statement, that Christian not rapture yet when the beast in power.

 

[cv5]

I agree with you about most that refuse the mark of the beast will beheaded.

I believe that group are Christian.

So base on that statement, that Christian not rapture yet when the beast in power.

More likely these are they who repent and receive Salvation after the rapture. Then they are killed for their faith, as they refuse to worship the Beast.