How did God die for our sins, if God cannot die?

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RoxanaOfPersia

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eternally-gratefull said:
Again you skipped this post can you please Respond to it

I am sorry it seems some may misjudge you forgive us

This is the best passage I can find to show it

It is found in Isaiah48. Where the God of Israel is speaking to them

Isaiah 48:12–16 (NKJV): Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last.
13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;
When I call to them,
They stand up together.
14 “All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear!
Who among them has declared these things?
The Lord loves him;
He shall do His pleasure on Babylon,
And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken;
Yes, I have called him,
I have brought him, and his way will prosper.
16 “Come near to Me, hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
From the time that it was, I was there.
And now the Lord God and His Spirit
Have sent Me.”

As you can see the creator. The God of Israel. Was sent By the father and his spirit

Here we see the son before he entered a body and became Jesus. Sent to Israel by the father and spirit

Hence what many call the triune God 1 God in three persons. Father Son and Spirit

I hope this helps
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'Before he became Jesus'

We are discussing Jesus. Not that which 'became' Jesus.
 
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kaylagrl

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RoxanaOfPersia said:
Yes. Jesus is fully human. This has been established. Adam was the first human. Therefore Jesus cannot predate him.
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Fully human, fully God. You said you agreed to that. Therefore He can and does pre-date Adam.
 
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RoxanaOfPersia

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Magenta said:
Be honest. What I have said repeatedly is that Jesus is fully human and fully Divine.
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I know. You acknowledge Jesus is fully human. Jesus is/was human. But the Bible says Adam was the first human. Not Jesus.
 
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Magenta

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RoxanaOfPersia said:
I know. You acknowledge Jesus is fully human. Jesus is/was human. But the Bible says Adam was the first human. Not Jesus.
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In His Divinity, Jesus predates Adam. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

Nobody has said Jesus was the first human.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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RoxanaOfPersia said:
'Before he became Jesus'

We are discussing Jesus. Not that which 'became' Jesus.
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Jesus is the same person only in human flesh it sounds like you agree so I am confused as to what you want to know. Forgive me if I do not understand
 
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RoxanaOfPersia

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Magenta said:
In His Divinity, Jesus predates Adam. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?
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Because Jesus is/was human. Adam was the first human, not Jesus. It is not possible for another human to predate Adam if Adam was indeed the first human.
 
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kaylagrl

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RoxanaOfPersia said:
No. Jesus is/was human. Adam was the first human. Therefore it is not possible that Jesus could predate him.
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Jesus as God pre-dates Adam. Two sides, divine and human. You said you agreed to that. So what's your issue?!
 
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Happy2020

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Magenta said:
In His Divinity, Jesus predates Adam. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

Nobody has said Jesus was the first human.
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Good Morning Magenta! How are you? I hope you are feeling well and creating drawings again! :)
 
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Magenta

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RoxanaOfPersia said:
Because Jesus is/was human. Adam was the first human, not Jesus. It is not possible for another human to predate Adam if Adam was indeed the first human.
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Jesus is also Divine. Your anti-Christ spirit will never accept this.

Nobody has said Jesus was the first human.
 
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EleventhHour

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RoxanaOfPersia said:
Because Jesus is/was human. Adam was the first human, not Jesus. It is not possible for another human to predate Adam if Adam was indeed the first human.
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For certain Jesus was not in heaven as a human before He came to earth.

It would be helpful if you would express your view more clearly however.... :unsure:
 
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Happy2020 said:
Good Morning Magenta! How are you? I hope you are feeling well and creating drawings again! :)
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Good morning, Happy! Lovely to see you again :)

Yes, I am well, though I have not been doing much designing lately :D

How are you this fine day that he LORD has made?

 
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Happy2020

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Magenta said:
Good morning, Happy! Lovely to see you again :)

Yes, I am well, though I have not been doing much designing lately :D

How are you this fine day that he LORD has made?

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hahaha very nice!!! I like your random deer popping its head out of the bushes. It is great to hear from you again! I will pray for your to have a complete recovery (refuah shlemah) for you! :) G-d needs you to help others! You are tough cookie. Get out, exercise a bit, study more! The greatest cure is to study more and more! "Man shall not live on bread alone, but every Word that comes out of the mouth of the L-rd"! :) I hope your day is excellent!
 
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Magenta

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RoxanaOfPersia said:
Precisely. Jesus was not anywhere before he became a human. 'Jesus' refers to the fully human, fully divine incarnation of God.
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Here you reject Jesus' Divinity once again while playing at acceptance of it. God is omnipresent, not "nowhere" as you claim.
 
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