How do we have a sexual counter-revolution in the church

[Angela53510]

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After all you said. were you being Ironic with the "LBGTQ thing...

Not at all sure what you are talking about. Perhaps re-read your post for spelling errors and whether it makes sense would help.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

It grieves me to hear of so many young people losing their virginity before marriage-- even young people who were raised in church. There are even churches now where attendees live together as boyfriend and girlfriend, but are not married.

I waited. My wife waited. I have a heart to help other young people wait and to encourage those who have fallen into the sin of fornication to repent.

What can be done to reverse the trend, especially in the church, but also in society? I know-- teach the word of God. But let's talk about some other practical strategies of how to get more churches to focus on truths related to these topics, church discipline, or whatever other means through which God's grace can work.

It grieves me to hear of so many young people losing their virginity before marriage-- even young people who were raised in church. There are even churches now where attendees live together as boyfriend and girlfriend, but are not married.

I waited. My wife waited. I have a heart to help other young people wait and to encourage those who have fallen into the sin of fornication to repent.

What can be done to reverse the trend, especially in the church, but also in society? I know-- teach the word of God. But let's talk about some other practical strategies of how to get more churches to focus on truths related to these topics, church discipline, or whatever other means through which God's grace can work.

Jesus Christ and Him Crucified alone is the only answer for mankind...not human reasoning!

If a Christians faith is not maintain exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work, i.e., The Cross, i.e., The BLOOD of Jesus, the works of the flesh will manifest.

Paul tells us this in the 5th Chapter of Galatians. The entire Book of Galatians, but especially the 5th Chapter, is a warning from Paul to the Church at Galatia, which is also meant for us. The warning is that if they place their faith in anything except “Christ and Him Crucified,” that “Christ shall profit you nothing” (Gal. 5:2).

The Apostle goes on to say that if the Believer doesn’t adhere to the Way of the Spirit, which is the Way of the Cross, then works of the flesh will manifest themselves. He said:

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the Kingdom of God” (Gal. 5:19-21).

Now let me say it again, because it is so very important:
If the Believer doesn’t understand the Cross of Christ, as it regards Sanctification, then, in some way, one or more of these “works of the flesh” are going to manifest themselves in his life. As stated, such is inevitable! The first four, “Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, and lasciviousness,” are obvious and easily understood. But the modern Christian quickly dismisses “idolatry, witchcraft, and heresies,” thinking they do not really apply today.

Everything that mans does dies; everything Jesus does lives forever and is blessed. Psalm 1:3
JSM

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

The question is, "How much value do we place on the Offering of Christ?" Do we feel that the Cross is the answer to every question, the solution to every problem, the strength for every weakness, the life for every death, the salvation for every sin, and the health for every sickness? How you as a Believer look at the Cross, is how you value the Cross. This is very, very serious, so we should think about it very carefully.

JSM

 

[Rim]

I can just imagine a preacher saying 'Sex is great kids. Have lots of sex.... but just wait until you are married." (Wink.)

Seriously though, I did hear a preacher say "Sex is fun" in church. He went on to explain that it was for a husband and wife. That's fine. I think some churches need to make a bit more room for life-long celibacy in their preaching, too.



That sounds a bit more like church in the '80's than it does church today, but I guess it depends on where you go. Paul singles fornication out and says that every other sin a man commits is without the body but he who commits fornication sins against his own body. Fornication is the only sin I can find in the Bible for which the Bible says God takes vengence on believers. But there needs to be balance. It can be forgiven.

I waited. So did my wife. From reading the Bible and from a series of youth group sermons that felt like they lasted a few years back when I was 12 or 13, I had the fear of God put in me about fornication. It did seem like a really big deal. But I also got some teaching on how it was a positive thing in marriage. It served me well. Fornication does need to seem like a big deal. One of the problems is that nowadays it is trivialized.

I agree that fornication should not be trivialized, trust me. I’m just also saying that the way we discuss sex in churches today (generally speaking), seems to only be in the context of sin, not in the context of love and beauty.

I knew a lady at my old church who was a Sunday school teacher. She grew up always hearing about sex as a sin and she associated negative emotions with sex. We her and her husband, both virgins, got married, she admitted that she had SERIOUS sexual problems because of the negativity she had always associated with sex.

The ramifications of only associating sex with sin is the point I’m trying to make.