Dose has been on this crusade (if you will
), about God's sovereignty and man's responsibility...
Haha yes I guess it has, not intentionally, just keeps coming up in posts.
Good thing patience is one of my virtues, I will keep making my point, though no one seems to budge.
The term "sovereign" seems to be the issue.
I don't like the king analogy because a king is not claiming to be the creator of not only all the subjects but of the entire realm and universe.
When dealing with a being that supposedly is timeless and omnipotent and omnipresent, who created every atom in the universe and set the laws of nature in motion, the standard of sovereignty is extremely high is it not?
The biblical concept of God implies that not a proton nor electron will move unless guided by Gods hand, right?
That to me is ultimate sovereignty and control over creation.
The question is does God give up some of this control to free will or chance or satan?
If he does, then by definition he is no longer "divinely sovereign". He may still be sovereign in the sense of dominion and authority, also He still has power to take back complete control.
That last part is key, as an omnipotent being He has to be responsible for every action in the universe.
Nothing occurs that He does not want by definition:
Either He has complete control thus what He wills happens.
Or
He gives up control but allows things to happen. Yet by voluntarily allowing it, that is what He wants, otherwise He would stop it by taking back control.
So though through free-choice man may be responsible for their actions, God by definition, is ultimately responsible for everything that ever takes place within His creation. Either directly or indirectly by allowing it.