How Many Chances to Get Saved Does God Give People Living in the State of Actual Sin?
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well it's been phrased as a question about "chances" after all, and God did create math
Not sure how much yet tho, so far all we have is
0 < n < infinity
so, a finite number of chances
I had to put the "Living in the State of Actual Sin?" part in my question so people are more likely to take the meaning of the word sin seriously.
If great minds think alike, it probably holds that odd minds do too.
You underestimate the age of the audience, perhaps? .
Though surely age is not the only factor...
Jesus answers that question:
Matthew 12:31, 21
"31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
John 17:12
"While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the Scripture might be fulfilled."
There are a lot of references to perdition in the Bible, Peter's statement predicts the end of ungodly men.
2 Peter 3:7
"But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."
The Bible also says Judas hung himself but it does not say that he repented.
Do you agree with these statements?
That does not state how Judas blasphemed the Holy Spirit..
This again does not state that Judas blasphemed the Holy Spirit.. Any un-forgiven sin will see that person lost.. But that does not mean the only way to be lost is by blaspheming the Holy Spirit..
Yeah ungodly men will have eternity in the Lake of Fire.. But that does not mean they blasphemed the Holy Spirit..
Hanging oneself is not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.. Not repenting is not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit..
In that none of these scriptures state that Judas blasphemed the Holy Spirit.. It just reveals Judas is damned to hell..
I lost track of when/where you had asked this, though at the time (ha! was it only last
night???) I had already started this panel and have worked on it some more since then...
Hebrews 6:8
Thank you for the inspiration! .
I'm a little disappointed. I was expecting filet mignon.I lost track of when/where you had asked this, though at the time (ha! was it only last
night???) I had already started this panel and have worked on it some more since then...
Hebrews 6:8
Thank you for the inspiration! .
You did not supply me with an appropriate verse! Though I had felt a need to apologize to you anyways,
since I had said to you that I was not going to do any more faces for now, but, this one was started almost
a week ago, and I think I have undertaken a new direction with vertical panels, no face... starting this month.
Never an apology necessary. I was just kidding around because of our previous discussion. I think your talents are best used doing both.
I didn’t get into any detail in my earlier post but I feel that this is an important Biblical teaching.
Jesus said in Matthew 12:31, “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.” If a person truly listens to the promptings of the Holy Spirit and asks for pardon and forgiveness that person is not guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
The sin that cannot be forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit:
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is any sin that a person clings to by continually resisting the convicting power of the Holy Spirit. This isn’t one specific sin that is unforgivable, such as lying, stealing or murder, but rather a perpetual hardening of the heart and willfully sinning against God and man (1 Timothy 4:2; Titus 1:15). In Acts 7:51, Stephen says the following to the Pharisees, "You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.” The unpardonable sin is any sin that a person doesn’t want to give up, confess, or even ask forgiveness for and additionally doesn’t want to hear any more about it from the Holy Spirit.
Any sin mankind wants pardon for is forgivable. However, if we turn our backs on the voice of the Holy Spirit we begin to silence His convictions and eventually we cannot hear His convicting power. This effectively blocks the working of God in our lives because we have reached a point where we are unable to respond to the promptings of the Holy Spirit.
Consider this scenario, imagine you are tired of the Holy Spirit convicting you of a particular pet sin. You want to completely remove His promptings even though the voice is warning you of danger and lovingly trying to show you the right path. So what do you do? You begin building a theoretical brick wall to block your conviction. Each brick in the wall represents a singular time you reject the conviction of the Holy Spirit. As you continue to reject the Holy Spirit, the “voice” you hear gets softer and softer. You become more and more confident in your current pathway of life. Eventually, as you lay more and more bricks down you cannot hear the Holy Spirit anymore, thus effectively cutting off your way of repentance and therefore salvation.
If a person wants to be forgiven and confesses his sins, those sins will be forgiven and blotted out. As long as you are under conviction, which is the Holy Spirit’s job (John 16:8) and you want to be forgiven you are not guilty of the unpardonable sin.
There are examples other than Judas, the Pharisees were warned by Stephen. The Pharaoh of Egypt had more than ample evidence that he was dealing with God's will but after all the plagues he was still drown.
Jesus said in Matthew 12:31, “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.” If a person truly listens to the promptings of the Holy Spirit and asks for pardon and forgiveness that person is not guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
The sin that cannot be forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit:
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is any sin that a person clings to by continually resisting the convicting power of the Holy Spirit. This isn’t one specific sin that is unforgivable, such as lying, stealing or murder, but rather a perpetual hardening of the heart and willfully sinning against God and man (1 Timothy 4:2; Titus 1:15). In Acts 7:51, Stephen says the following to the Pharisees, "You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.” The unpardonable sin is any sin that a person doesn’t want to give up, confess, or even ask forgiveness for and additionally doesn’t want to hear any more about it from the Holy Spirit.
Any sin mankind wants pardon for is forgivable. However, if we turn our backs on the voice of the Holy Spirit we begin to silence His convictions and eventually we cannot hear His convicting power. This effectively blocks the working of God in our lives because we have reached a point where we are unable to respond to the promptings of the Holy Spirit.
Consider this scenario, imagine you are tired of the Holy Spirit convicting you of a particular pet sin. You want to completely remove His promptings even though the voice is warning you of danger and lovingly trying to show you the right path. So what do you do? You begin building a theoretical brick wall to block your conviction. Each brick in the wall represents a singular time you reject the conviction of the Holy Spirit. As you continue to reject the Holy Spirit, the “voice” you hear gets softer and softer. You become more and more confident in your current pathway of life. Eventually, as you lay more and more bricks down you cannot hear the Holy Spirit anymore, thus effectively cutting off your way of repentance and therefore salvation.
If a person wants to be forgiven and confesses his sins, those sins will be forgiven and blotted out. As long as you are under conviction, which is the Holy Spirit’s job (John 16:8) and you want to be forgiven you are not guilty of the unpardonable sin.
There are examples other than Judas, the Pharisees were warned by Stephen. The Pharaoh of Egypt had more than ample evidence that he was dealing with God's will but after all the plagues he was still drown.