How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?
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I Just found our a few minutes ago, that there was a 6th Tower near Fortress Antonia, the so-called Temple Mount. Only this Tower was right in front of the East Gate of the TEMPLE.
JOSEPHUS – The Antiquities of the Jews -
Book 15 – Chapter 11 – Section 7
7. There was also an occult passage built for the king; it led from Antonia to the inner
temple, at its eastern gate; over which he also erected for himself a tower, that he might
have the opportunity of a subterraneous ascent to the temple, in order to guard against any
sedition which might be made by the people against their kings.
Other half of the entire complex, if Fortress Antonia, home of the ROMAN X Legion.
Apparently His excuse for building his Tower right in front of the East Gate, was so he and his Body Guards, could protect the visiting dignitaries from harm while they visited the TEMPLE.
JOSEPHUS – The Antiquities of the Jews -
Book 15 – Chapter 11 – Section 7
7. There was also an occult passage built for the king; it led from Antonia to the inner
temple, at its eastern gate; over which he also erected for himself a tower, that he might
have the opportunity of a subterraneous ascent to the temple, in order to guard against any
sedition which might be made by the people against their kings.
Other half of the entire complex, if Fortress Antonia, home of the ROMAN X Legion.
Apparently His excuse for building his Tower right in front of the East Gate, was so he and his Body Guards, could protect the visiting dignitaries from harm while they visited the TEMPLE.
Notice In the Post #502 above, Josephus called the Path from the so-called Temple Mount area, through the North Gate, the Occult Passage. I Highly suspect the Occult Romans, were only allowed to use that one Path if they wanted to go to the Temple, and of course the EMERGENCY COLONNADES entrance, (Covered Bridges), if the ZEALOTS got out of hand. I can image the Jews would not walk on those stones that Occult Passage through the North Gate. In the N.W. Corner facing North, was the Priests Gate, and they only could enter and exit. NOTICE, MORE EVIDENCE THAT THE REAL LOCATION IS THE OPHEL, UP TOP ONLY HALF A COHART COULD FIGHT IN THE DINKY FORTRESS, WHEN 6000 TROOPS, AND 4000 SUPPORT PERSONNEL, WERE IT HOUSED A FULL LEGION IN THE FORTRESS. AND IT BLOCKED THE PRIESTS ENTRANCE. In the N.E. Corner, facing North, is a Jewish Entrances where The Male and their Wives could enter, it was called the Sheep Gate. And the Eastern Cloister just outside the East Wall of the TEMPLE (Covered Walkway) was nicknamed Solomon's Porch.
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JOSEPHUS – The Antiquities of the Jews -
Book 15 – Chapter 11 – Section 5
"... northern quarters three gates [equally] distant one from another; but on the east quarter, towards the sun-rising, there was one large gate, through which such as were pure came in, together with their wives; but the temple further inward in that gate was not allowed to the women; but still more inward was there a third [court of the] temple, whereinto it was not lawful for any but the priests alone to enter ..."
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I assume he is counting front to back, so First Gate, is the Sheep Gate, just around the corner is the Essene's Gate on the eastside.
The Second Gate on the north side is the North Gate, the one he called the Occult Passage. The Third Gate, is the Priest's Gate, that they did not understand it blocked the Priest Gate if you put it up on the Higher Hill. That {court of the} Temple, could be {closest to the} Temple, a typo.
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JOSEPHUS – The Antiquities of the Jews -
Book 15 – Chapter 11 – Section 5
"... northern quarters three gates [equally] distant one from another; but on the east quarter, towards the sun-rising, there was one large gate, through which such as were pure came in, together with their wives; but the temple further inward in that gate was not allowed to the women; but still more inward was there a third [court of the] temple, whereinto it was not lawful for any but the priests alone to enter ..."
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I assume he is counting front to back, so First Gate, is the Sheep Gate, just around the corner is the Essene's Gate on the eastside.
The Second Gate on the north side is the North Gate, the one he called the Occult Passage. The Third Gate, is the Priest's Gate, that they did not understand it blocked the Priest Gate if you put it up on the Higher Hill. That {court of the} Temple, could be {closest to the} Temple, a typo.
Last night, I found a new find in the search for an update Temple and the Fortress of Antonia.
I do not know of anyone that has mentioned, that King Herod, had built TOWER over and above the East Gate, and hear is the proof:
It is in the book by Josephus called
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the Antiquities of the Jews, Book 15, Chapter 11, Section 5:
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northern quarters three gates [equally] distant one from another; but on the east quarter, towards the sun-rising, there was one large gate, through which such as were pure came in, together with their wives; but the temple further inward in that gate was not allowed to the women; but still more inward was there a third [court of the] temple, whereinto it was not lawful for any but the priests alone to enter. . . ."
Section 7.
There was also (2. Gate on the north side Middle Gate or North Gate, and look what HE CALLED IT) an occult passage built for the king; it led from Antonia to the inner temple, at its eastern gate; over which he also erected for himself a tower, that he might have the opportunity of a subterraneous ascent to the temple, in order to guard against any sedition which might be made by the people against their kings. . . . "
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He Built a Luxury Apartment for himself and said it was for him and his Palace Guard to protect foreign dignitaries, to Justify the expense. Sounds like something a democrat would do. Here is my revised patch work quilt map of the whole area:
LOOK AT THE NUMBER 3. EXIT ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT THE JEWS BLOCKED OFF TO PUT THAT EXTREMELY DINKY LITTLE MOCK FORTRESS ANTONIA THERE, JUST SO THEY CAN LAY CLAIM TO THE HIGHEST HILL. AND DID NOT EVEN REALIZED THEY BLOCKED THE PRIVATE ENTRANCE TO THEIR TEMPLE PRIESTS.
I do not know of anyone that has mentioned, that King Herod, had built TOWER over and above the East Gate, and hear is the proof:
It is in the book by Josephus called
Quote:
the Antiquities of the Jews, Book 15, Chapter 11, Section 5:
". . .
northern quarters three gates [equally] distant one from another; but on the east quarter, towards the sun-rising, there was one large gate, through which such as were pure came in, together with their wives; but the temple further inward in that gate was not allowed to the women; but still more inward was there a third [court of the] temple, whereinto it was not lawful for any but the priests alone to enter. . . ."
Section 7.
There was also (2. Gate on the north side Middle Gate or North Gate, and look what HE CALLED IT) an occult passage built for the king; it led from Antonia to the inner temple, at its eastern gate; over which he also erected for himself a tower, that he might have the opportunity of a subterraneous ascent to the temple, in order to guard against any sedition which might be made by the people against their kings. . . . "
END QUOTE.
He Built a Luxury Apartment for himself and said it was for him and his Palace Guard to protect foreign dignitaries, to Justify the expense. Sounds like something a democrat would do. Here is my revised patch work quilt map of the whole area:
LOOK AT THE NUMBER 3. EXIT ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT THE JEWS BLOCKED OFF TO PUT THAT EXTREMELY DINKY LITTLE MOCK FORTRESS ANTONIA THERE, JUST SO THEY CAN LAY CLAIM TO THE HIGHEST HILL. AND DID NOT EVEN REALIZED THEY BLOCKED THE PRIVATE ENTRANCE TO THEIR TEMPLE PRIESTS.
Totally unimportant. The Jews were WRONG about the only thing that really matters - I.E. they (because of their corrupt theology, and Tradition) THEY MISSED THE TIME OF THEIR VISITATION, AND HAD THEIR MESSIAH MURDERED BY TJHE ROMANS.
Where they stick their worthless temple for the Antichrist to come into, is meaningless.
Where they stick their worthless temple for the Antichrist to come into, is meaningless.
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It will definitely be millennial. Jesus on His throne in the Temple in Israel is part of the Second Coming package. And the reason for all of it is always the same: Salvation.
A millennium of gentile souls WILL (future) be saved because Jesus will be on His throne and Israelites will be preaching. Nevertheless some will CHOOSE not to believe and be judged accordingly.
The purpose of the millennium is the same as the purpose of God throughout all the ages:
Salvation. Jesus Name is Salvation.
And I agree.......there will in fact be resurrected Israelites in the land during the millennium.
A millennium of gentile souls WILL (future) be saved because Jesus will be on His throne and Israelites will be preaching. Nevertheless some will CHOOSE not to believe and be judged accordingly.
The purpose of the millennium is the same as the purpose of God throughout all the ages:
Salvation. Jesus Name is Salvation.
And I agree.......there will in fact be resurrected Israelites in the land during the millennium.
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God has HIS reasons for building the Third Temple, so you cannot think of them.
Isaiah 46:10 (HCSB)
10 I declare the end from the beginning, and from long ago what is not yet done, saying:
My plan will take place, and I will do all My will.
Jeremiah 17:4 (HCSB)
4 You will, on your own, relinquish your inheritance that I gave you. I will make you serve your enemies in a land you do not know, for you have set My anger on fire; it will burn forever.
Jeremiah 9:7 (RSV)
7 Therefore thus says the LORD of hosts: "Behold, I will refine them and test them, for what else can I do, because of my people?
Jeremiah 7:14-15 (RSV)
14 therefore I will do to the house which is called by my name, and in which you trust, and to the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I did to Shiloh.
15 And I will cast you out of my sight, as I cast out all your kinsmen, all the offspring of E'phraim.
Isaiah 44:28 (TLB)
28 When I say of Cyrus, ’He is my shepherd,’ he will certainly do as I say; and Jerusalem will be rebuilt and the Temple restored, for I have spoken it."
Isaiah 46:10 (HCSB)
10 I declare the end from the beginning, and from long ago what is not yet done, saying:
My plan will take place, and I will do all My will.
Jeremiah 17:4 (HCSB)
4 You will, on your own, relinquish your inheritance that I gave you. I will make you serve your enemies in a land you do not know, for you have set My anger on fire; it will burn forever.
Jeremiah 9:7 (RSV)
7 Therefore thus says the LORD of hosts: "Behold, I will refine them and test them, for what else can I do, because of my people?
Jeremiah 7:14-15 (RSV)
14 therefore I will do to the house which is called by my name, and in which you trust, and to the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I did to Shiloh.
15 And I will cast you out of my sight, as I cast out all your kinsmen, all the offspring of E'phraim.
Isaiah 44:28 (TLB)
28 When I say of Cyrus, ’He is my shepherd,’ he will certainly do as I say; and Jerusalem will be rebuilt and the Temple restored, for I have spoken it."