How to Recognize a Mixed-Grace Gospel

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PeterJens said:
Do you know it is difficult to repent of something I have not done. If I have not done it I cannot have lived it.
Is this the Holy Spirit speaking from you? I am not getting the feeling you know what you are saying.

Please give me one phrase from scripture that describes my failure?
Please tell me one sin I have commited before the Lord that I need to repent of?

If you seriously believe in spiritual authority either you come with these things or you shut up or risk the Lord executing judgement on you.

Not listening to your conscience is a statement made by LadyLynn.
It is also a comment made by other hyper-grace followers. You obviously do not read what people post, but that does not surprise me either.
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Repent, and have faith in Christ, And you will be saved.

Your still trying to be saved, Thus you do not have faith. You don't have faith, because you have not repented yet.
 
PeterJens said:
FreeNChrist - Put this in perspective. I have been told I have no gospel, I have followed Satan, and I am pointing out a guy was in his dads church which he has condemned as legalistic, that he has some Dad issues.

I did not realise having Dad issues is a serious crime. I had some dad issues. Mine were I did not know him and he was terribly shy. Strangely this meant I was scared of authority and always wanted to explain myself. I had to practise empathising with people in leadership roles to work through this.

So I am sorry if this causes offence. I hope you can forgive me.

Maybe you freeNChrist can tell me of my sin and how I can repent of something I have not done. Is it a sin to say OSAS is not real? I did not read that in the law, or in Jesus's commands.

I just have to believe my Lord and Saviour to be saved, which ofcourse means follow after Him and learn from Him which I do daily. What I find mildly amusing is if we do the same things walking with the Lord, why do we describe it differently?
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You don't get it..

I responded to a ridiculous argument you made. And you just took it, and belittled me.

You have no desire to discuss anything, I do not even know why your here.

You keep talking, and proving your just like my dad, and his church..
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Repent, and have faith in Christ, And you will be saved.
Your still trying to be saved, Thus you do not have faith. You don't have faith, because you have not repented yet.
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Repent - admit you are a sinner who has commited sin, you are in need of saving, being forgiven, washed clean, to walk in righteousness, and stop sinning. This is the repentance of John the Baptist.

Believe on Jesus - believe Jesus took our place on the cross, redeemed us through His blood sacrifice for our sins so that we might be resurrected to new life in Him.

Now I have done both these things. I have also been baptised in the Holy Spirit and exercise the gifts.

Now what else would you have me do?

Or is it really your problem you can only cope with your way of expressing faith in Jesus?

If you are saying no, you have not repented or believed then that is meaningless. It is like saying a man is not man when he is standing before you. The issue is if you accept people walk with the Lord, but not by your definition you must be wrong, you cannot cope with that.

Your only angle is OSAS dogma, which you feel is the touch stone of everything. But it is Jesus and righteousness working out through love which is the touchstone. If you know Jesus, are lost is His acceptance of who you are, that transforms everything about who you are and how you walk.

Now you say you know Him. But why so easily do you doubt the power of love and the Holy Spirit to overcome legalism, gnosticism, or any other ism there is. Where is your faith is Jesus who conquered death? Brother where is your heart?

People say when I see God I will have all these questions. I think when we meet nothing else will matter. Do you see that glory, that wonder of Jesus who took everything and still says he loves us. Amen.

You talk of grace as if this perfect new spirit is needed. What you do not see is Jesus loves us despite our humanity, our sins and stupidity. He knows the light will bring perfection, life, love, freedom because He is all these things. But maybe you have not yet reached this place in the Lord.
 
notuptome said:
What part of the scriptures cited do you not comprehend?

Are you going to invent new meanings for things in the bible because it's 2016?

Despite your caustic attitude you cannot change what the bible says today, tomorrow or in the future.

Have you anything of virtue to contribute?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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what part of 2016 do you not understand.
there play on words.
lets recall, repentance, not needed.(ie no answer given) is grace a gift,(let talk about demons) because its called an illness. it also said the truth will set you free.( let stick to the logos. ) today is the day, you have missed, standing in the same understanding you grow web feet.( notice no bible quote, to the answer er)

16 That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring---not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us allRomans 4
 
notuptome said:
What part of the scriptures cited do you not comprehend?

Are you going to invent new meanings for things in the bible because it's 2016?

Despite your caustic attitude you cannot change what the bible says today, tomorrow or in the future.

Have you anything of virtue to contribute?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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are you a j/witness yes or no . there is a lot of different bible quotes, so if the logos, is all you have, then ...................................................................................... there is trouble a head. etc you have been warned etc
 
did he give you a bible verse to why he repents, or are you foolish to see the real macoy , guess not, an other day in paradise for the believers. etc
 
david was a soldier for who. lets listen to the usa, we are so blessed, the god thought about the usa, in the bible.
 
in simple terms, if your, to test the scripture, what are you testing it for. would it be, for the truth, or a lie. ( that would be for a speaker or preacher, or bible quote etc) so, no prayer, can fix a lie, that you believe. unless it has been open, up to you, ie in a sermon or bible quote. etc. yet when scripture has open up, your lie, yet you continue.

for example.

i once heard , this preached, if you trip, over the same stone/stones twice, you deserve to break your neck.

the older, i became, the more i understood, i am not perfect, in order to understand, i have to trip over, that stone/stones, a million times or more, and the bible simply puts it , in this quote (grace a gift. )
 
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