I think people will be surprised in this election on who wins and who loses.

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

JohnB

Well-known member
Jul 31, 2022
2,078
456
83
Calif
So you believe God would turn this race in favor of abortion, transgender sexualization of children, inflation so high no on can afford to eat, heat their homes or gas their cars. In favor of illegals flooding the border with drugs and crime. Crime in the streets in every major city because they want "equity" and police defunded. Why would God do that?!

He brought a famine to Egypt, put Joseph in control, who than made slaves of all the people.
 

JohnB

Well-known member
Jul 31, 2022
2,078
456
83
Calif
That is what the politicians, pollsters, and media would have you to believe. But there has never been an honest poll in recent history, always skewing numbers in favor of the Democrats.

I believe that the Democrats may only have about 30% support nationwide, and they make up the difference through fraudulent polls and election fraud. Also claiming that Biden has 40% support is preposterous, It may only be 4% multiplied by 10 to make him look good. On the other hand inflation in real terms is probably about 50% but shown as only around 10%. The numbers are all being manipulated on a daily basis, and people should not believe the pollsters. When they talk about neck-to-neck races that is probably wishful thinking.
BOTH parties are corrupt to the core. Remember what Jesus said,

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. Matt 10:34 You are seeing America being divided. I do believe it's part of GOD's plan. He did this to Israel

GOD divided Israel "So the king did not listen to the people, for this turn of events was from the Lord, to fulfill the word the Lord had spoken to Jeroboam son of Nebat through Ahijah the Shilonite. " 1 Kings 12:15

"But this word of God came to Shemaiah the man of God: “Say to Rehoboam son of Solomon king of Judah, to all Judah and Benjamin, and to the rest of the people, ‘This is what the Lord says: Do not go up to fight against your brothers, the Israelites. Go home, every one of you, for this is my doing.’” 1 Kings 14:22
 
Nov 26, 2021
1,125
545
113
India
Andrew Torba on Gab: "
Every election season people say “this is the most important election in our lifetimes.”

This time, I believe they are correct.

The lives of millions of unborn children are at stake in this election. Democrats are threatening to codify Roe into Federal law if they get power, while Republican states are promising to enforce existing laws on the books or pass new ones to stop the satanic murder of babies in this country ...

If you are a Christian the choice is clear: vote Republican. If you call yourself a Christian and are voting Democrat you need to be under church discipline for voting to empower evil. If your Pastor or Priest is encouraging you to vote for “pro-choice” Democrats you need to find a new church. That’s how serious this issue is. God is very clear in His Word: Thou Shalt Not Kill.

...

Finally I’d like to address Gab’s election policies as Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and others gear up to censor any and all conversations exposing voter fraud. Gab’s election policy is simple: the First Amendment. We are not going to police discussions about the election before, during, or after the vote. We will not be “fact-checking” content. You are free to speak freely on Gab and see what others are saying as well without interference from Gab as a platform. No other social network can say this. For that reason alone Gab is the place to be on election night and beyond.

Andrew Torba
CEO, Gab.com
Jesus Christ is King of kings"
 
P

persistent

Guest

  1. The following bit of history regarding the King family may be revealing as to a more accurate understanding of what may be Gods take upon founding father

    King was born on March 24, 1755, in Scarborough, which was then part of Massachusetts but is now in Maine.[1] He was a son of Isabella (Bragdon) and Richard King, a prosperous farmer-merchant, "lumberman, and sea captain"[1] who had settled at Dunstan Landing in Scarborough, near Portland, Maine, and had made a modest fortune by 1755, the year that Rufus was born. His financial success aroused the jealousy of his neighbors, and when the Stamp Act 1765 was imposed, and rioting became almost respectable, a mob ransacked his house and destroyed most of the furniture. Nobody was punished, and the next year, the mob burned down his barn.[2] That statement proves true as John Adams once referred to that moment in discussing limitations of the "mob" for the Constitutional Convention and wrote a letter to his wife, Abigail, in which he described the scene:

I am engaged in a famous Cause: The Cause of King, of Scarborough vs. a Mob, that broke into his House, and rifled his Papers, and terrifyed him, his Wife, Children and Servants in the Night. The Terror, and Distress, the Distraction and Horror of this Family cannot be described by Words or painted upon Canvass. It is enough to move a Statue, to melt an Heart of Stone, to read the Story....[3] It was not surprising that Richard King became a Loyalist. All of his sons, however, became Patriots during the American War of Independence.[2]

  1. Luke 12:53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law
    Better to pray your own prayer rather than the following.

    https://ifapray.org/blog/12-prayers-to-speak-over-america/
  2. You listen to me, kingdom of darkness, you are without authority. In the Name of Jesus Christ, you take your hands off every single government leader who has taken an oath for this country. Our government leaders remember the Lord and remember their obligations to the United States of America.“ –Inspired by Rufus King, who helped write a total of five oath clauses in the Constitution (Colossians 2:15).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufus_King
 
Nov 26, 2021
1,125
545
113
India
From: https://christiananswers.net/q-eden/voting.html

"I
once heard of a church where members thought it was against God's will to vote. Concerned that a corrupt politician would win a local election, church members gathered for an all-night prayer vigil. In the morning, however, they refused to vote and the good candidate lost—by fewer than the number of votes represented by those at the prayer meeting.

It seems tragic, but maybe those church members did the right thing. After all, isn't politics a dirty business? Christians are citizens of heaven, not of Earth… right? Every Christian must grapple with this question and come up with a defensible answer.

The high cost of indifference
I teach political communication at a Christian college. Once several years ago students in my class complained endlessly about seedy politicians. Yet the day after the election, I discovered that only two of them had voted, and most weren't even REGISTERED to vote! I told them, “For the rest of the semester, if you didn't vote, you have lost your right to complain in this class.” Years later they still remember the lesson.

What it means to be a Christian citizen
There are at least five good reasons why Christians should vote:

  1. God has granted us authority. All authority belongs to God, but He has put human beings on the Earth as caretakers. What is our task? According to Jesus in Matthew 28:18-20, we are to go out and make disciples of all nations, teaching them to obey God in every area of life. This includes politics. We must disciple people to make godly decisions about government, and promote the efforts of those who are already doing so.
  2. We need to stand against evil. St. Augustine said those who are citizens of God's kingdom are best equipped to be citizens of the kingdom of man. The alternative is unthinkable. In the 20th Century, atheistic and secular humanistic leaders gained control of nations all across Europe, Asia and Africa. What was the result? According to historian R. J. Rummel, almost 170 million men, women and children have been brutally murdered by these governments, all in the name of human progress. These facts led historian John Hallowell to note,
    “Only through a return to faith in God, as God revealed Himself to man in Jesus Christ, can modern man and his society find redemption from the tyranny of evil.”​
  3. Christian values contribute positively to society. The Bible’s solutions make sense. It is Christian involvement in government through the ages that gave us hospitals, civil liberties, abolition of slavery, modern science, the elevation of women, regard for human life, great works of art and literature, a workable system of justice, education for common people, the free-enterprise system, and much, much more.
    When we see the good that results from applying God's principles, and the horror that results from rejecting them, doesn't it seem cruel and irresponsible to keep Jesus teachings about truth, love and compassion to ourselves? At very least, we should vote to keep OUT of office those who attempt to oppose God's authority.
  4. Obedience to authority demands good citizenship. The Apostle Paul in Romans chapter 13 clearly states that we must obey governmental leaders because all authority comes from God. Here's the catch: in America, the people are the leaders! Here, at least, we express our obedience to God by exercising our rights and privileges as citizens. That means voting.
  5. Good citizenship sets an example for generations to come. Those who apply God's principles to government pave the way for generations of blessing. In 1768 a Christian minister named John Witherspoon became president of the College of New Jersey, now Princeton. While there he taught biblical principles of government to his students.
    Of the 478 young men who were graduated during his tenure, writes author John Eidsmoe,
    “114 became ministers; 13 were state governors; 3 were U. S. Supreme Court judges; 20 were U.S. Senators; 33 were U. S. Congressmen; Aaron Burr, Jr. became Vice-President; and James Madison became President.”​
    As a Christian, Witherspoon exerted an enormous influence on the direction of American government.
You and I may not have the gifts of John Witherspoon, but we can still make a big difference if we put our minds to it. Pass this on to friends and family, and encourage them to vote in the every election!

Author: Jeffrey L. Myers, Ph.D. / from his book Vital Truth: Christian Citizenship (February 2003). Copyright 2002, LifeWay Christian Resources of the Southern Baptist Convention. All rights reserved. Used by permission of the author.
 
K

kaylagrl

Guest
He brought a famine to Egypt, put Joseph in control, who than made slaves of all the people.

Yes, if you're talking about a sort of "punishment" situation then maybe. But I don't see where America will repent as a nation. When the Bible talks about a nation coming back to God, it is talking about Israel. Too many preachers out there today preaching a national repentance that isn't going to happen. Individuals will, but the Bible is talking about Israel turning from their wicked ways back to repentance. That's not speaking to the Gentiles.
 
Nov 26, 2021
1,125
545
113
India
Wow!!! Just came across this. Answer to prayers? Praying and hoping. Below says Republicans could possibly win 60 seats! Seems unlikely, but nothing is impossible with God. Even if they get a fair majority like 55+, Roe v Wade is buried forever. But ask God to give them 60, as then it is filibuster proof etc. Keep Praying. In Lord Jesus' Name. Amen.

"With the midterm elections just days away, here’s another sign of growing Republican momentum: Analysts have been talking this week about the GOP possibly controlling 60 seats in the Senate after the 2024 elections.

Given their current momentum, it is “now possible that Republicans could end up within reach of a filibuster-proof 60-seat Senate majority in 2024,” wrote Benjamin Salisbury of Height Capital Markets in a note. That’s a reference to the Senate’s filibuster rule, in which 60 votes are required to end debate on most items, allowing the minority party to stymie the majority’s efforts.

Height gives “a roughly 30% probability that Republicans will win 52 or more Senate seats in 2022. That would mean that they need to win eight out of the 12 potentially competitive seats to reach 60 in 2024,” Salisbury said. He previously has said voters appear increasingly focused on Republican issues such as inflation, at the expense of Democrats’ agenda items.
Meanwhile, Eurasia Group analysts said national trends continue to move in the GOP’s favor ahead of Election Day on Tuesday, so they’ve raised their odds for a Republican Senate to 60% — and they’re thinking also about the 60-seat threshold."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/r...ote-supermajority-for-gop-in-2024-11667572582
 

Aslanfriend

Junior Member
Jan 28, 2018
69
40
18
Hello Asianfriend. I lived So. Ca. for 20 yrs and would guess that Ca. will go with woman's' right to choose.
I've lived here for 51 years and you are probably right, but it's so lame they are going to actually amend the state constitution to make it a human "right" - we know it's already legal and that part will probably never change.
 
P

persistent

Guest
I've lived here for 51 years and you are probably right, but it's so lame they are going to actually amend the state constitution to make it a human "right" - we know it's already legal and that part will probably never change.
This is possibly part of a plan in accordance with the UN and a response to population growth and planning by UN. Consider other countries and see the population growth. China tried limiting number of children, many African nations have population growth unchecked. I was looking at projections from a UN website and it is interesting to consider. I would post it here if you ask or you might find it by google. I would need search my history or google myself. Personally I see God working His plan in all this and we shouldn't concern ourselves as Jesus is well aware of our needs.
 
P

persistent

Guest

soberxp

Senior Member
May 3, 2018
2,511
482
83
This is possibly part of a plan in accordance with the UN and a response to population growth and planning by UN. Consider other countries and see the population growth. China tried limiting number of children, many African nations have population growth unchecked. I was looking at projections from a UN website and it is interesting to consider. I would post it here if you ask or you might find it by google. I would need search my history or google myself. Personally I see God working His plan in all this and we shouldn't concern ourselves as Jesus is well aware of our needs.
Now China allows have three births, the population is declining, morality is being discussed, and marital status has deteriorated........
 

JohnDB

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2021
6,222
2,524
113
Now China allows have three births, the population is declining, morality is being discussed, and marital status has deteriorated........
Ummm...sure they can have children but the people have opted to not have them.
In PRC a couple's job's income vs cost of living is such that you can either have children or afford housing...you can't do both. Because children require care in the form of diapers and special food...then once old enough to talk they need tutors. Because PRC has a qualifying and competitive educational system.
IOW if your child is smart but not smarter than their peers they will not advance to the next educational level. So a child will stop attending school after their equivalent to high school (or earlier)...and be assigned to work in coal mines or digging silicon or some other menial physical labor. Cleaning toilets or street sweeping is a better job than the lowest get...meaning that if you care for your child you will get your child a tutor so they can rise above their peers in school on an ongoing basis until they can advance no more...especially if you want regular contact with them after they have aged out.

Orphans are the lowest of the low...they can't afford tutoring or school supplies. They often start their life as sex slaves. (Yes, even PRC has a sex slave trade just like the rest of the world) by the time these children hit puberty they will have HIV and/or some other incurable STD...they will have no choice but to work in the lowest form of menial labor they have...and no hope of having a spouse with any other sort of elevated lifestyle. And since PRC does not admit that they have any HIV infections in their nation the doctors do not prescribe those medications because the pharmacies don't carry them.

Ahhhhh....the communist lifestyle!
 
Jun 20, 2022
6,460
1,330
113
Just as I felt in my spirit the Senate is lost. If vp Harris words are true Roe vs Wade will be overturned and the electric dollar will become a reality.

I just could feel time was short and it appears God is letting the usa crash and burn.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,687
6,733
113
Just as I felt in my spirit the Senate is lost. If vp Harris words are true Roe vs Wade will be overturned and the electric dollar will become a reality.

I just could feel time was short and it appears God is letting the usa crash and burn.
they were given a chance to repent. God will not strive with man forever, there comes a time when it is time for judgement. As they have done it will be done unto them. You have the right to kill a baby because it is inconvenient for you to care for that baby, well the AntiChrist will abort a billion people because it is inconvenient for him to care for them.

The first ones to be "aborted" will be those "christians" who thought they would compromise with sin.
 
Jun 20, 2022
6,460
1,330
113
they were given a chance to repent. God will not strive with man forever, there comes a time when it is time for judgement. As they have done it will be done unto them. You have the right to kill a baby because it is inconvenient for you to care for that baby, well the AntiChrist will abort a billion people because it is inconvenient for him to care for them.

The first ones to be "aborted" will be those "christians" who thought they would compromise with sin.
Amen!
 

Thusiserve

Active member
Nov 8, 2022
182
143
43
That, my friend, is the true election fraud. The dems want Harris but she could never win on her own. So they slide her in on Biden's coat tails, intending to retire Biden before his term expires so she can run as an incumbent.
I don't be she has the
That, my friend, is the true election fraud. The dems want Harris but she could never win on her own. So they slide her in on Biden's coat tails, intending to retire Biden before his term expires so she can run as an incumbent.
I don't believe she has the IQ to run a food blender, much less any office. Imho
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,776
113
Just as I felt in my spirit the Senate is lost.
Not only is the Senate lost but America is now finished. Free and fair elections have been abolished but no one has been prosecuted. All this started before 2019, but there was no effort to set up a national commission on election fraud and address this matter seriously. The Founding Fathers never dreamed that a criminal syndicate would actually be running the country.
 

soberxp

Senior Member
May 3, 2018
2,511
482
83
Ummm...sure they can have children but the people have opted to not have them.
In PRC a couple's job's income vs cost of living is such that you can either have children or afford housing...you can't do both. Because children require care in the form of diapers and special food...then once old enough to talk they need tutors. Because PRC has a qualifying and competitive educational system.
IOW if your child is smart but not smarter than their peers they will not advance to the next educational level. So a child will stop attending school after their equivalent to high school (or earlier)...and be assigned to work in coal mines or digging silicon or some other menial physical labor. Cleaning toilets or street sweeping is a better job than the lowest get...meaning that if you care for your child you will get your child a tutor so they can rise above their peers in school on an ongoing basis until they can advance no more...especially if you want regular contact with them after they have aged out.

Orphans are the lowest of the low...they can't afford tutoring or school supplies. They often start their life as sex slaves. (Yes, even PRC has a sex slave trade just like the rest of the world) by the time these children hit puberty they will have HIV and/or some other incurable STD...they will have no choice but to work in the lowest form of menial labor they have...and no hope of having a spouse with any other sort of elevated lifestyle. And since PRC does not admit that they have any HIV infections in their nation the doctors do not prescribe those medications because the pharmacies don't carry them.

Ahhhhh....the communist lifestyle!
I'm afraid it's not what you think, but it's pretty much as what the Bible says,

Colossians 3:5
Therefore put your earthly members to death, like fornication, uncleanness, evil desires and covetousness, which is idolatry.

Much of it comes down to greedy human nature.
 
P

persistent

Guest
Now China allows have three births, the population is declining, morality is being discussed, and marital status has deteriorated........
Reports here are India now surpassed China in population. At those numbers how accurate can they be? Now pop. earth = 8 billion. Very interesting to look country by country and projections.
 
Nov 26, 2021
1,125
545
113
India
Good News! GOP one seat away from victory, in the House, and 1 seat away from at least a 50-50 tie in the Senate.

Source: Associated Press, which has a good Track Record: ""AP declares winners in thousands of races, starting with the White House and reaching down the ballot to every seat in every state legislature. In 2020, we were 99.9% accurate in calling U.S. races, and 100% accurate in calling the presidential and congressional races for each state. " https://www.ap.org/about/our-role-in-elections/ God Bless.

1668518257751.jpeg
1668518269355.jpeg