I wrote a Letter to my Free Will

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2ndTimothyGroup

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Dear Free Will. I just wanted to let you know how much I am thankful for you. If not for you, God would be in control of me. And that would, well, just be awful, in fact, it would be hateful of Him if He took you away from me. I don’t know what I’d do without you. I mean, I wouldn’t be allowed to freely feed my porn addiction, drug and alcohol addictions, and oh, so many more.

What I like about you, Entity Free Will, is that you allow me to make my life all about me, me, me . . . gosh, and that’s so wonderful. I mean, the more you can place the attention and focus upon me and not God, that’d be great. I don’t want Him to get any more credit than He should! I mean, come on! We chose this bumpy, up-and-down path of ours! Our successes are because of us, and our failures are because of us, too! Isn’t it something!? 😊

Most important, Free Will . . . you give me the right to be in complete, and total, control. I get to decide if God does anything in my life, and I decide if the Devil acts in my life just the same.

Me. It’s all about me!
 

Mem

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Dear Free Will. I just wanted to let you know how much I am thankful for you. If not for you, God would be in control of me. And that would, well, just be awful, in fact, it would be hateful of Him if He took you away from me. I don’t know what I’d do without you. I mean, I wouldn’t be allowed to freely feed my porn addiction, drug and alcohol addictions, and oh, so many more.

What I like about you, Entity Free Will, is that you allow me to make my life all about me, me, me . . . gosh, and that’s so wonderful. I mean, the more you can place the attention and focus upon me and not God, that’d be great. I don’t want Him to get any more credit than He should! I mean, come on! We chose this bumpy, up-and-down path of ours! Our successes are because of us, and our failures are because of us, too! Isn’t it something!? 😊

Most important, Free Will . . . you give me the right to be in complete, and total, control. I get to decide if God does anything in my life, and I decide if the Devil acts in my life just the same.

Me. It’s all about me!
You forgot to close the letter with, "Sincerely..."

There's no need to thank me, I offer it freely. ;)
 

HeIsHere

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Dear Free Will. I just wanted to let you know how much I am thankful for you. If not for you, God would be in control of me. And that would, well, just be awful, in fact, it would be hateful of Him if He took you away from me. I don’t know what I’d do without you. I mean, I wouldn’t be allowed to freely feed my porn addiction, drug and alcohol addictions, and oh, so many more.

What I like about you, Entity Free Will, is that you allow me to make my life all about me, me, me . . . gosh, and that’s so wonderful. I mean, the more you can place the attention and focus upon me and not God, that’d be great. I don’t want Him to get any more credit than He should! I mean, come on! We chose this bumpy, up-and-down path of ours! Our successes are because of us, and our failures are because of us, too! Isn’t it something!? 😊

Most important, Free Will . . . you give me the right to be in complete, and total, control. I get to decide if God does anything in my life, and I decide if the Devil acts in my life just the same.

Me. It’s all about me!
Well, at least you were able to do it freely.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Dear Free Will. I just wanted to let you know how much I am thankful for you. If not for you, God would be in control of me. And that would, well, just be awful, in fact, it would be hateful of Him if He took you away from me. I don’t know what I’d do without you. I mean, I wouldn’t be allowed to freely feed my porn addiction, drug and alcohol addictions, and oh, so many more.

What I like about you, Entity Free Will, is that you allow me to make my life all about me, me, me . . . gosh, and that’s so wonderful. I mean, the more you can place the attention and focus upon me and not God, that’d be great. I don’t want Him to get any more credit than He should! I mean, come on! We chose this bumpy, up-and-down path of ours! Our successes are because of us, and our failures are because of us, too! Isn’t it something!? 😊

Most important, Free Will . . . you give me the right to be in complete, and total, control. I get to decide if God does anything in my life, and I decide if the Devil acts in my life just the same.

Me. It’s all about me!
It’s more all about Jesus who sets us free ….

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32, 34, 36‬

maybe your mocking your free Will because you haven’t been set free yet ?

“in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

apparently some folks are captive to satans Will and need to be set free from that

as long as we convince ourselves we can’t choose we’re never going to
 

maxwel

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Dear Free Will. I just wanted to let you know how much I am thankful for you. If not for you, God would be in control of me. And that would, well, just be awful, in fact, it would be hateful of Him if He took you away from me. I don’t know what I’d do without you. I mean, I wouldn’t be allowed to freely feed my porn addiction, drug and alcohol addictions, and oh, so many more.

What I like about you, Entity Free Will, is that you allow me to make my life all about me, me, me . . . gosh, and that’s so wonderful. I mean, the more you can place the attention and focus upon me and not God, that’d be great. I don’t want Him to get any more credit than He should! I mean, come on! We chose this bumpy, up-and-down path of ours! Our successes are because of us, and our failures are because of us, too! Isn’t it something!? 😊

Most important, Free Will . . . you give me the right to be in complete, and total, control. I get to decide if God does anything in my life, and I decide if the Devil acts in my life just the same.

Me. It’s all about me!
Well...
that was very creative, but it was also sort of brimming over with logic errors: straw man arguments, unproven presuppositions, appeals to emotion, conclusion jumping, circular reasoning etc. etc. etc. - all logical fallacies. Errors in logic.

Since God doesn't make errors in logic, I'll have to assume the logic errors came not from God, but from your own FREE WILL.



I'm not a Calvinist, but it's certainly possible for our good Calvinist brothers to defend their position with better arguments.




Have a great weekend everyone.

.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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I'm not a Calvinist, but it's certainly possible for our good Calvinist brothers to defend their position with better arguments..
Hardly!
They will always isolate a single verse from an entire meaning of grouped verses and create a view that is manipulated and self serving.
 

maxwel

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Hardly!
They will always isolate a single verse from an entire meaning of grouped verses and create a view that is manipulated and self serving.
So you're upset because, although I disagree with Calvinism, I wasn't mean enough?
: )

Please accept my apology.
From now on, when my good Christian brothers disagree with me, I'll try to be much harder on them.


Have a great weekend.
.
 

Cameron143

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So you're upset because, although I disagree with Calvinism, I wasn't mean enough?
: )

Please accept my apology.
From now on, when my good Christian brothers disagree with me, I'll try to be much harder on them.


Have a great weekend.
.
That's the Spirit. If only more here were so disposed.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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So you're upset because, although I disagree with Calvinism, I wasn't mean enough?
: )

Please accept my apology.
From now on, when my good Christian brothers disagree with me, I'll try to be much harder on them.


Have a great weekend.
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We have a posting history and I know what you present in many of your viewpoints.
You ain't fooling nobody.
 

John146

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Dear Free Will. I just wanted to let you know how much I am thankful for you. If not for you, God would be in control of me. And that would, well, just be awful, in fact, it would be hateful of Him if He took you away from me. I don’t know what I’d do without you. I mean, I wouldn’t be allowed to freely feed my porn addiction, drug and alcohol addictions, and oh, so many more.

What I like about you, Entity Free Will, is that you allow me to make my life all about me, me, me . . . gosh, and that’s so wonderful. I mean, the more you can place the attention and focus upon me and not God, that’d be great. I don’t want Him to get any more credit than He should! I mean, come on! We chose this bumpy, up-and-down path of ours! Our successes are because of us, and our failures are because of us, too! Isn’t it something!? 😊

Most important, Free Will . . . you give me the right to be in complete, and total, control. I get to decide if God does anything in my life, and I decide if the Devil acts in my life just the same.

Me. It’s all about me!
Did you write this on your own or did the Lord will you to write this?
 

maxwel

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We have a posting history and I know what you present in many of your viewpoints.
You ain't fooling nobody.
1.) I have no idea what you're getting at, but by all means, feel free to accuse me of... whatever.

2.) If it's off topic, please create a new thread for attacking me. Disliking me is probably not a minority view. So please feel free to collect a group, and make it a nice group project.

3.) However, If I don't respond to any of that, I'm probably just taking a nap... because it's all silly.


Have a lovely weekend.

.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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1.) I have no idea what you're getting at, but by all means, feel free to accuse me of... whatever.

2.) If it's off topic, please create a new thread for attacking me. Disliking me is probably not a minority view. So please feel free to collect a group, and make it a nice group project.

3.) However, If I don't respond to any of that, I'm probably just taking a nap... because it's all silly.


Have a lovely weekend.

.
You also have a good weekend but Free Will is a debate issue that splits between those who consort Calvin and those who do not.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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apparently some folks are captive to satans Will and need to be set free from that
Absolutely! It's pretty difficult for people to claim they had free will, at least BEFORE they were freed by Christ. :)
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Well...
that was very creative, but it was also sort of brimming over with logic errors: straw man arguments, unproven presuppositions, appeals to emotion, conclusion jumping, circular reasoning etc. etc. etc. - all logical fallacies. Errors in logic.

Since God doesn't make errors in logic, I'll have to assume the logic errors came not from God, but from your own FREE WILL.



I'm not a Calvinist, but it's certainly possible for our good Calvinist brothers to defend their position with better arguments.




Have a great weekend everyone.

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I don't know anything about Calvinism. To learn about that is to take a step backward from knowing the Gospel (more).
 

Magenta

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Absolutely! It's pretty difficult for people to claim they had free will, at least BEFORE they were freed by Christ. :)
And yet some do it quite often! Even denying that the natural man is a slave to sin.
 

HeIsHere

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Dear Free Will. I just wanted to let you know how much I am thankful for you. If not for you, God would be in control of me. And that would, well, just be awful, in fact, it would be hateful of Him if He took you away from me. I don’t know what I’d do without you. I mean, I wouldn’t be allowed to freely feed my porn addiction, drug and alcohol addictions, and oh, so many more.

What I like about you, Entity Free Will, is that you allow me to make my life all about me, me, me . . . gosh, and that’s so wonderful. I mean, the more you can place the attention and focus upon me and not God, that’d be great. I don’t want Him to get any more credit than He should! I mean, come on! We chose this bumpy, up-and-down path of ours! Our successes are because of us, and our failures are because of us, too! Isn’t it something!? 😊

Most important, Free Will . . . you give me the right to be in complete, and total, control. I get to decide if God does anything in my life, and I decide if the Devil acts in my life just the same.

Me. It’s all about me!
This is may be your free will experience but it is not everyone's' thankfully.
 

maxwel

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I don't know anything about Calvinism. To learn about that is to take a step backward from knowing the Gospel (more).
If you hold to views of Calvinism but don't use the word "Calvinism"... the arguments on both sides still remain the same.

I don't usually debate this issue, as it's been debated on CC for thousands of pages, and it's been debated throughout Christendom for hundreds of years. I only commented in this thread because it was a very unusual post.



I'm now going to leave, and go to a more kind and gentle thread, where we're only talking about cannibals.
: )

.
 

SunshineGirl

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Dear Free Will. I just wanted to let you know how much I am thankful for you. If not for you, God would be in control of me. And that would, well, just be awful, in fact, it would be hateful of Him if He took you away from me. I don’t know what I’d do without you. I mean, I wouldn’t be allowed to freely feed my porn addiction, drug and alcohol addictions, and oh, so many more.

What I like about you, Entity Free Will, is that you allow me to make my life all about me, me, me . . . gosh, and that’s so wonderful. I mean, the more you can place the attention and focus upon me and not God, that’d be great. I don’t want Him to get any more credit than He should! I mean, come on! We chose this bumpy, up-and-down path of ours! Our successes are because of us, and our failures are because of us, too! Isn’t it something!? 😊

Most important, Free Will . . . you give me the right to be in complete, and total, control. I get to decide if God does anything in my life, and I decide if the Devil acts in my life just the same.

Me. It’s all about me!
If this had a bit of roadman slang in it I would think it was written from a student from work 🤣