If a Christian Commits Suicide: Is Suicide an Unpardonable Sin?

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A Merciful Opportunity

(Isaiah 55:8, 9) “For the thoughts of YOU people are not my thoughts, nor are my ways YOUR ways,” is the utterance of Jehovah. [SUP]9[/SUP] “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than YOUR ways, and my thoughts than YOUR thoughts.
Stunned friends of a suicide victim may thus take comfort in knowing that “God has shown mercy to those fearing him. For he himself well knows the formation of us, remembering that we are dust.” (Psalm 103:10-14) Only God can fully understand the role of mental sickness, extreme stress, even genetic defects, in a “suicidal crisis,” which, the National Observer noted, “is not a lifetime characteristic [but] often a matter only of minutes or of hours.”—See Ecclesiastes 7:7.
Granted, one who takes his own life deprives himself of the opportunity to repent of his self-murder. But who can say whether one driven to suicide might have had a change of heart had his fatal attempt failed? Some notorious murderers have, in fact, changed and earned God’s forgiveness during their lifetime.—2 Kings 21:16; 2 Chronicles 33:12, 13.
 
directline2iam said:
Must be a trick question.....because a real Christian has faith in God and the HS keeps that faith strong enough to persevere. The one that commits suicide is not Christian to begin with and is also condemned before the act for not believing in the first place plain and simple.
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How disheartening and discouraging your reply is. Real christians are not exempt from depression in all it's forms. That is one of the reasons why people become christians. They become christians to cope with the anxieties, depression, and challenges of life in the first place. Also, becoming a christian doesn't miraculously remove the emotional and physical ills that we have.
There is an individual, a christian, in the Bible, named Epaphroditus who got depressed when he became sick "to the point of death", and because he could not carry out his spiritual assignment, that caused deep depression in him (Philippians 2:25-27). That is why as christians we are admonished to "Keep comforting one another and building one another up." (1st Thessalonians 5:11; 1st Corinthians 12:12,26; 1st Thessalonians 5:14).
The simple fact and truth is that when a christian experiences depression on a regular basis, even to the point of suicide, it doesn't mean that they are not sincere or genuine christians. You also have to remember that there are different levels of spirituality among christian peers. The loving thing to do and say, which may be a challenge to some; is to be encouraging and upbuilding to one another as well as to others in general; not only in deed, but in our speech and by the words that we say privately and publicly.....Never would a "christian" want to have called into question their, his or her "christian" identity or credentials, by callous, thoughtless, inconsiderate, unloving speech or words.
 
No its not that sin. Don't worry about those people who have . It's a sin, because it gos against the natural order of things.

But, its not that, sin. If you want to learn about that sin, then just message me, and we can read many places in the Bible which teach about that it is.
 
Judges 28 Then Samson prayed to the LORD, “Sovereign LORD, remember me again. O God, please strengthen me just one more time. With one blow let me pay back the Philistines for the loss of my two eyes.” 29Then Samson put his hands on the two center pillars that held up the temple. Pushing against them with both hands, 30he prayed, “Let me die with the Philistines.” And the temple crashed down on the Philistine rulers and all the people. So he killed more people when he died than he had during his entire lifetime.


Now why would God give Samson back his strength one last time so he could kill everyone including himself (suicide) ?...I don't think God (all knowing) would give Samson strength to kill himself and others if God knew suicide was going to send him to hell.....
 
I agree with McGill to a point. However, my Christian belief which is based on the Bible is that there is no fiery place called hell. The secular, English term, and non scriptural definition of hell is not supported by the Bible. Also, according to the Bible good and bad people go to hell, which in Hebrew the word hell is called "Sheol" and in Greek, the word hell is called "Hades". Being a Christian I have learned from the Bible that the socalled place, titled "hell", which many people believe is a fiery place of torment for the wicked does not exist. The idea or implication of such a "place" never came up into God's heart or mind. And He, God has never used or employed Satan the Devil to torment the socalled "spirits of the dead".
Ecclesiastes 9:5,6, and verse 10 says: "The dead are conscious of nothing at all". Also, Genesis 3:19 says that once we die we "...return to the dust..." That's only logical because Adam, our first human ancestor, was created from the elements of the earth, dirt, the ground, or 'dust'. THINK ABOUT THIS: Usually, when people put out a camp fire they use dirt or "dust". Now, imagine all those dead bodies that have died since the beginning of mankind's existence? Seems to me that the socalled "fires of hell" would have never gotten a chance to exist with all those decomposed bodies. Also, THINK ABOUT THIS: Can a something invisible or the socalled "spirit of a dead person" be burned forever? Can or does anything burn forever? The hardest substance known to mankind; doesn't even burn forever. It will eventually melt down or disintegrate into ashes. Jehovah, God who is "love", would never have that kind of punishment awaiting for sinner according to the Bible (Roman 6:23). Romans 6:7 says: "For the one who has died has been acquitted fro his sin". In other words, in God's eyes your 'slate has been wiped clean' so to speak.
 
I absolutely agree with your post CRC......
CRC said:
A Merciful Opportunity

(Isaiah 55:8, 9) “For the thoughts of YOU people are not my thoughts, nor are my ways YOUR ways,” is the utterance of Jehovah. [SUP]9[/SUP] “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than YOUR ways, and my thoughts than YOUR thoughts.
Stunned friends of a suicide victim may thus take comfort in knowing that “God has shown mercy to those fearing him. For he himself well knows the formation of us, remembering that we are dust.” (Psalm 103:10-14) Only God can fully understand the role of mental sickness, extreme stress, even genetic defects, in a “suicidal crisis,” which, the National Observer noted, “is not a lifetime characteristic [but] often a matter only of minutes or of hours.”—See Ecclesiastes 7:7.
Granted, one who takes his own life deprives himself of the opportunity to repent of his self-murder. But who can say whether one driven to suicide might have had a change of heart had his fatal attempt failed? Some notorious murderers have, in fact, changed and earned God’s forgiveness during their lifetime.—2 Kings 21:16; 2 Chronicles 33:12, 13.
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Samson in the Bible did not commit suicide. Samson had God's approval and he, Samson, proved faithful to Jehovah to the end of his life. Just as Jesus Christ made the ultimate sacrifice in behalf of pure worship and the sanctification of God's sovereignty and name, Samson out of love for God destroyed the enemies of the Jews and God. True Christians at times have given up their lives for the "sake of the good news about God's Kingdom", and for obedient mankind, and will continue to do so according Hebrews 11:35-40 and John 15:13......
Swingalong said:
I agree with McGill to a point. However, my Christian belief which is based on the Bible is that there is no fiery place called hell. The secular, English term, and non scriptural definition of hell is not supported by the Bible. Also, according to the Bible good and bad people go to hell, which in Hebrew the word hell is called "Sheol" and in Greek, the word hell is called "Hades". Being a Christian I have learned from the Bible that the socalled place, titled "hell", which many people believe is a fiery place of torment for the wicked does not exist. The idea or implication of such a "place" never came up into God's heart or mind. And He, God has never used or employed Satan the Devil to torment the socalled "spirits of the dead".
Ecclesiastes 9:5,6, and verse 10 says: "The dead are conscious of nothing at all". Also, Genesis 3:19 says that once we die we "...return to the dust..." That's only logical because Adam, our first human ancestor, was created from the elements of the earth, dirt, the ground, or 'dust'. THINK ABOUT THIS: Usually, when people put out a camp fire they use dirt or "dust". Now, imagine all those dead bodies that have died since the beginning of mankind's existence? Seems to me that the socalled "fires of hell" would have never gotten a chance to exist with all those decomposed bodies. Also, THINK ABOUT THIS: Can a something invisible or the socalled "spirit of a dead person" be burned forever? Can or does anything burn forever? The hardest substance known to mankind; doesn't even burn forever. It will eventually melt down or disintegrate into ashes. Jehovah, God who is "love", would never have that kind of punishment awaiting for sinner according to the Bible (Roman 6:23). Romans 6:7 says: "For the one who has died has been acquitted fro his sin". In other words, in God's eyes your 'slate has been wiped clean' so to speak.
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Swingalong said:
Samson in the Bible did not commit suicide. Samson had God's approval and he, Samson, proved faithful to Jehovah to the end of his life. Just as Jesus Christ made the ultimate sacrifice in behalf of pure worship and the sanctification of God's sovereignty and name, Samson out of love for God destroyed the enemies of the Jews and God. True Christians at times have given up their lives for the "sake of the good news about God's Kingdom", and for obedient mankind, and will continue to do so according Hebrews 11:35-40 and John 15:13......
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so what you're saying is as long as we have God's approval then we can kill ourselves in His name and go to Heaven....what's the name of your cult again..? LOL J/K
 
Swingalong said:
Samson in the Bible did not commit suicide. Samson had God's approval and he, Samson, proved faithful to Jehovah to the end of his life. Just as Jesus Christ made the ultimate sacrifice in behalf of pure worship and the sanctification of God's sovereignty and name, Samson out of love for God destroyed the enemies of the Jews and God. True Christians at times have given up their lives for the "sake of the good news about God's Kingdom", and for obedient mankind, and will continue to do so according Hebrews 11:35-40 and John 15:13......
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I'd have to agree with this.

Suicide is a selfish act, an act of despair...
when a person isn't thinking about God, or about others... only himself.

What Samson did simply doesn't fit into this kind of category.

He had failed God his entire life... always seeking his own desires, and his own selfishness.
In death, he wanted to die as a warrior, serving God...
he wanted to do something UNSELFISH FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE.
God was merciful, and allowed him to serve God, and honor God, in his death.
God in his mercy allowed him to die as a hero, and as a true and sacrificial servant.
 
Jesus Christ also died for obedient mankind, true Christians, to give us them, us, an opportunity to have everlasting life, right here on a beautiful paradise earth of God's making and design (Psalms 37:10,11, and verse 37; Revelation 21:4,5).
Swingalong said:
Samson in the Bible did not commit suicide. Samson had God's approval and he, Samson, proved faithful to Jehovah to the end of his life. Just as Jesus Christ made the ultimate sacrifice in behalf of pure worship and the sanctification of God's sovereignty and name, Samson out of love for God destroyed the enemies of the Jews and God. True Christians at times have given up their lives for the "sake of the good news about God's Kingdom", and for obedient mankind, and will continue to do so according Hebrews 11:35-40 and John 15:13......
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maxwel said:
I'd have to agree with this.

Suicide is a selfish act, an act of despair...
when a person isn't thinking about God, or about others... only himself.

What Samson did simply doesn't fit into this kind of category.

He had failed God his entire life... always seeking his own desires, and his own selfishness.
In death, he wanted to die as a warrior, serving God...
he wanted to do something UNSELFISH FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE.
God was merciful, and allowed him to serve God, and honor God, in his death.
God in his mercy allowed him to die as a hero, and as a true and sacrificial servant.
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Selfish act..?.....When a soldier flies his plane into hundreds of enemies and kills them all we call him a hero. Even though the soldier committed suicide this was not an act of a selfish man. He didn't do this in Gods name...He did it for his country. How will God judge him...?
 
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Samson was a man of faith all his life toward God. He was given an honorable mention at Hebrews 11:32 along with other faithful servants of God. That would not have been the case or occurred if Samson conducted himself any other way but faithful. Remember, Samson was imperfect like us all and failed on occasion, yet throughout is life aside from that, Samson remained a loyal and faithful servant of God to the end of life.
maxwel said:
I'd have to agree with this.

Suicide is a selfish act, an act of despair...
when a person isn't thinking about God, or about others... only himself.

What Samson did simply doesn't fit into this kind of category.

He had failed God his entire life... always seeking his own desires, and his own selfishness.
In death, he wanted to die as a warrior, serving God...
he wanted to do something UNSELFISH FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE.
God was merciful, and allowed him to serve God, and honor God, in his death.
God in his mercy allowed him to die as a hero, and as a true and sacrificial servant.
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Were those who flew their planes into the Twin Towers in New York City doing a selfish act or an unselfish act? These one's did it in the name of their god called Allah. Mislead religious, political, and patriotic or nationalistic ferver causes a person(s) to believe that they are doing the right thing. True Christians do not take the lives of others along with their own life deliberately or needlessly (John 13:35). The soldier that flew his plane into hundreds of "perceived" enemies, because of being told that they were the 'enemy'; he, the pilot, will no doubt be judged by God in a merciful manner. God knows this person, because of a lack of accurate knowledge of God's will and purpose, drove his plane into those people because he felt it was the right thing to do. True Christians are not involved in the wars of mankind that not only kill and maim bad people, but good and innocent people are killed and murdered as well (2nd Corinthians 10:3,4).
McGill said:
Selfish act..?.....When a soldier flies his plane into hundreds of enemies and kills them all we call him a hero. Even though the soldier committed suicide this was not an act of a selfish man. He didn't do this in Gods name...He did it for his country. How will God judge him...?
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Samson also judged Israel for 20 years. Therefore his name rightly appears among men who, through faith were made powerful (Judges 15:20; Judges 16:29-31; and Hebrews 11:32-34).
maxwel said:
I'd have to agree with this.

Suicide is a selfish act, an act of despair...
when a person isn't thinking about God, or about others... only himself.

What Samson did simply doesn't fit into this kind of category.

He had failed God his entire life... always seeking his own desires, and his own selfishness.
In death, he wanted to die as a warrior, serving God...
he wanted to do something UNSELFISH FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE.
God was merciful, and allowed him to serve God, and honor God, in his death.
God in his mercy allowed him to die as a hero, and as a true and sacrificial servant.
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say what you will but this is a topic that only God can judge. Only He knows the hearts of the people that kill themselves. This is where I will bow out gracefully .... :)
 
Fire7 said:
I still am trying to find out where the scripture verse is that this doctrine is based on??? I have yet to hear a preacher quote a passage that points to suicide being an unpardonable sin.

Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill. This includes you killing you.
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God's loyal one "endures forever" in the sense that if a servant of God dies faithful and loyal to God, then he can look forward to an earthly or heavenly resurrection. Who is there to say that the one who committed suicide did not have a change of heart just before they died? Many who have been faithful servants of God for a long time. Sometimes, later on during their Christian course or christian "walk" in life, may develop emotional and mental issues down the road. Sometimes those adverse issues that a true servant of God is dealing with or going through might lead to suicide. However, the encouraging thought and words found at Hebrews 6:10 should be taken into consideration with the scenario that is mentioned in this reply.....
jb said:
No, certainly NOT!

Have a look at Psalm 136...
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