If Jesus returns in 2030

[DavidLamb]

Not possible, he must've risen on the third day to fulfill prophecy.

Yes, I agree. All I said in the post to which you were replying was that we are not given a time for the resurrection itself. We are told when the first witnesses visited the empty tomb, but not the time when Jesus actually rose. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

 

[Lovette]

Yes, I agree. All I said in the post to which you were replying was that we are not given a time for the resurrection itself. We are told when the first witnesses visited the empty tomb, but not the time when Jesus actually rose. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

1 Cor. 15:4, on the third day, i.e. within the 12 hours of daytime on Sunday, that's sufficient.

 

[Lovette]

So you understand, I have never been a part of THE Many, The Many teach a Friday crucifixion and a Sunday morning resurrection which I have never found one person that has been able to prove by the Word of God.
everyone, just like you, must adjust something to make it appear as fact.

I hold as Truth practically zero doctrines and beliefs held by the tens of thousands of diverse christian churches.

If it is not found clearly in the Word --- I reject. 12 hours is close --- but it is not three 12 hour days.
Christ said twice 3 days and 3 nights -- not parts of days or nights, He did not say around or close to 3 days and 3 nights.

Everything Christ said and taught had to be 100 % correct, if not how could any believe Him and turn their lives over to Him and follow Him?

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

If you want to believe sunday, go for it, I can not.

It is found in 1 Cor. 15:4, which you reject.

 

[memberofthebride]

It is found in 1 Cor. 15:4, which you reject.

NO! I confirm absolutely Christ was resurrected after 3 days and 3 nights on the DAY "light" part of God's HOLY Sabbath.

What you espouse is Christ was resurrected in darkness before sun rise on Sunday.

Friday 6PM - 6AM
Saturday 6AM - 6PM
Sunday 6PM - 6AM two nights -- one day ---
Even if you move it to Thursday, then it becomes sunday at 6PM

Why wouldn't you believe our Passover, why believe men?

 

[Lovette]

If you want to believe sunday, go for it, I can not.

Christ is the firstfruit, He fulfilled the Feast of Firstfruits, which is on sunday. You don't believe sunday, you don't believe in God's word.

‘When you come into the land which I give to you, and reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest to the priest. He shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted on your behalf; on the day after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it. (Lev. 23:10-11)

But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. (1 Cor. 15:20)

 

[memberofthebride]

Christ is the firstfruit, He fulfilled the Feast of Firstfruits, which is on sunday. You don't believe sunday, you don't believe in God's word.

‘When you come into the land which I give to you, and reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest to the priest. He shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted on your behalf; on the day after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it. (Lev. 23:10-11)

But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. (1 Cor. 15:20)

First of all the "wave sheaf" of the barley harvest on the day after the Sabbath is NOT a Feast.

there are 7 which I have kept beginning in 1969.

the Wave Sheaf is not a commanded assembly.

the wave sheaf represents Jesus Christ and Christ must be accepted by the Father which He was sunday morning.
I showed you the wave sheaf is cut loose from the ground as the Sabbath ends -- just like Christ was cut loose from death

Yes Jesus Christ is the First of the First Fruits to rise from death to Spirit.
All those assembled on the day of Pentecost when the 120 received the Father spirit, are First Fruits and are the Bride of Jesus Christ, all called from that day forward are first fruits.

Rome had to get rid of all things Hebrew/jewish, like the Sabbath and Passover, so they established easter on Sunday and sunday as a kind of sabbath.

They had to do this so they could begin to bring in paganism -- which they have done.. ever been to Rome and the Catholic church there?? paganism to the max.

I understand if you accept a Sabbath resurrection you may have to find another church.

 

[DavidLamb]

1 Cor. 15:4, on the third day, i.e. within the 12 hours of daytime on Sunday, that's sufficient.

Yes, we seem to be agreeing now, that a precise time for the Resurrection is not given in Scripture.

 

[memberofthebride]

1 Cor. 15:4, on the third day, i.e. within the 12 hours of daytime on Sunday, that's sufficient.

Sorry I miss your statement about 12 hours of daytime, nope He was already gone before daylight. so thats only 2 nights and one day.

1The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre

 

[Lovette]

First of all the "wave sheaf" of the barley harvest on the day after the Sabbath is NOT a Feast.

Yes it is a Feast, ordained by God. The Vatican may have perverted it into Easter, but the original one was written in Lev. 23, and fulfilled by Jesus on Sunday. You're in denial.

 

[Lovette]

Sorry I miss your statement about 12 hours of daytime, nope He was already gone before daylight. so thats only 2 nights and one day.

1The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre

See post #256 for the math, three nights, three days. It may be before daylight, so what? Still already 6 am, the next DAY.

 

[Lovette]

Yes, we seem to be agreeing now, that a precise time for the Resurrection is not given in Scripture.

Whatever that "precise time" was, it was within the third 12-hour day, the third day.

 

[Lovette]

NO! I confirm absolutely Christ was resurrected after 3 days and 3 nights on the DAY "light" part of God's HOLY Sabbath.

What you espouse is Christ was resurrected in darkness before sun rise on Sunday.

Friday 6PM - 6AM
Saturday 6AM - 6PM
Sunday 6PM - 6AM two nights -- one day ---
Even if you move it to Thursday, then it becomes sunday at 6PM

Why wouldn't you believe our Passover, why believe men?

You're mistaken, I'm for THURSDAY Passover. You can't match it with any year in the 30s, that's your problem, your calendar system may be wrong.

 

[Lovette]

NO! I confirm absolutely Christ was resurrected after 3 days and 3 nights on the DAY "light" part of God's HOLY Sabbath.

I confirm absolutely that Christ was resurrected on Sunday morning. Sabbath is the end of a week and a time for REST, Sunday is a new beginning, which is exactly the perfect time for the beginning of a new life.

 

[memberofthebride]

Yes it is a Feast, ordained by God. The Vatican may have perverted it into Easter, but the original one was written in Lev. 23, and fulfilled by Jesus on Sunday. You're in denial.

First, Rome changed Passover into easter, Does Rome or any of the tens of thousands of christian churches keep Passover? No, Rome had to remove all things Jewish so they could bring in paganism. easter is pure pagan.

I see where the confusion comes from,
the wave sheaf offering --- is not a commanded assembly with no work being allowed
go to Leviticus 23 and read it yourself

There are only seven commanded assemblies, High days – MY Feasts
" Feasts of God The feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My Feasts"
Leviticus 23 list the Seven that are commanded assemblies, Holy Convocations with no work allowed, if you read what the KJV calls the feast of first fruits it does say it is a commanded assembly or that no work can be done on that day.
1 & 2-Unleavened bread - first and last days are commanded assembly with no work
1/15 & 1/22
3-Feast of Pentecost -- on the first day of the week
4-Feast of Trumpets 7/1
5-Day of Atonement 7-10
6- Feast of Tabernacles 7/15
7- The eight day 7/22 --- this is the one they all miss
John records what Christ said on the 7th and last Feast of each year.
John 7: 37 On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.

this is also called the 8th Day of the Feast as it is the day that follows the seven days of the Feast of Tabernacles.
""And in the eighth day they made a solemn assembly: for they kept the dedication of the altar seven days, and the feast seven days". which is the feast of Tebernacles

 

[Lovette]

First, Rome changed Passover into easter, Does Rome or any of the tens of thousands of christian churches keep Passover? No, Rome had to remove all things Jewish so they could bring in paganism. easter is pure pagan.

I see where the confusion comes from,
the wave sheaf offering --- is not a commanded assembly with no work being allowed
go to Leviticus 23 and read it yourself

There are only seven commanded assemblies, High days – MY Feasts
" Feasts of God The feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My Feasts"
Leviticus 23 list the Seven that are commanded assemblies, Holy Convocations with no work allowed, if you read what the KJV calls the feast of first fruits it does say it is a commanded assembly or that no work can be done on that day.
1 & 2-Unleavened bread - first and last days are commanded assembly with no work
1/15 & 1/22
3-Feast of Pentecost -- on the first day of the week
4-Feast of Trumpets 7/1
5-Day of Atonement 7-10
6- Feast of Tabernacles 7/15
7- The eight day 7/22 --- this is the one they all miss
John records what Christ said on the 7th and last Feast of each year.
John 7: 37 On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.

this is also called the 8th Day of the Feast as it is the day that follows the seven days of the Feast of Tabernacles.
""And in the eighth day they made a solemn assembly: for they kept the dedication of the altar seven days, and the feast seven days". which is the feast of Tebernacles

You're still in denial, it has nothing to do with Rome, there're seven feasts of he Lord, First Fruit is the 3rd. If there's an eighth, it'd be Hanukkah.

 

[memberofthebride]

First, Rome changed Passover into easter, Does Rome or any of the tens of thousands of christian churches keep Passover? No, Rome had to remove all things Jewish so they could bring in paganism. easter is pure pagan.

I see where the confusion comes from,
the wave sheaf offering --- is not a commanded assembly with no work being allowed
go to Leviticus 23 and read it yourself

There are only seven commanded assemblies, High days – MY Feasts
" Feasts of God The feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My Feasts"
Leviticus 23 list the Seven that are commanded assemblies, Holy Convocations with no work allowed, if you read what the KJV calls the feast of first fruits it does say it is a commanded assembly or that no work can be done on that day.
1 & 2-Unleavened bread - first and last days are commanded assembly with no work
1/15 & 1/22
3-Feast of Pentecost -- on the first day of the week
4-Feast of Trumpets 7/1
5-Day of Atonement 7-10
6- Feast of Tabernacles 7/15
7- The eight day 7/22 --- this is the one they all miss
John records what Christ said on the 7th and last Feast of each year.
John 7: 37 On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.

this is also called the 8th Day of the Feast as it is the day that follows the seven days of the Feast of Tabernacles.
""And in the eighth day they made a solemn assembly: for they kept the dedication of the altar seven days, and the feast seven days". which is the feast of Tebernacles

as the vast majority of churches rarely spend any time in the Old testament -- they avoid all things they view as Jewish, they do not understand God's plan of salvation.

the 7 Feasts of GOD are the outline of that Plan, the first step which is NOT a Feasts is Passover -- JESUS CHRIST is not our easter --- 7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:

Why did Paul say Christ is our Passover and not our easter???

The Feast called The Last Great Day, the 8th day, is what Revelation 20: 5 shows what is coming -- But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

this is what the 8th day represents, the last great harvest. over the last 6000 years possibly 100 billion or more have lived and died -- The 8th Day is their time for salvation. see Ezekiel 37

and what is it the vast majority of churches teach,, these 100 billion folks are going straight to HELL to be tormented for eternity ----- and they call that a merciful god!

I pass

 

[memberofthebride]

You're still in denial, it has nothing to do with Rome, there're seven feasts of he Lord, First Fruit is the 3rd. If there's an eighth, it'd be Hanukkah.

show where Hanukkah was commanded by God or the wave sheaf is a commanded assembly with no work to be done. you can't.

How is it you can not understand the difference? it clearly written -- 2 plus must equal 4

if you have not understood to this point -- your mind is locked shut
No worries God will open it in HIS time.

 

[memberofthebride]

show where Hanukkah was commanded by God or the wave sheaf is a commanded assembly with no work to be done. you can't.

How is it you can not understand the difference? it clearly written -- 2 plus must equal 4

if you have not understood to this point -- your mind is locked shut
No worries God will open it in HIS time.

here is something you may (should) want to consider:

It is Jesus Christ in Leviticus 23 telling us that THESE are HIS Feasts and we are Commanded to attend.

Christ kept these Feasts Himself, He kept or taught nothing the churches keeps today.

Are there scriptures proving Christ taught we are to change from His Feasts to Xmas, easter and sunday?

All three are from men, not the Father or Jesus Christ.

Not one scripture stating: you are commanded to rest on sunday and to assemble on easter sunday or celebrate my birthday.

Rome takes credit for all three.

why would you not do what Christ commands?"

 

[Lovette]

show where Hanukkah was commanded by God or the wave sheaf is a commanded assembly with no work to be done. you can't.

How is it you can not understand the difference? it clearly written -- 2 plus must equal 4

if you have not understood to this point -- your mind is locked shut
No worries God will open it in HIS time.

What does any of these have to do with the resurrection? It is your mind that's locked shut, in denial of biblical record of sunday resurrection, not me.

 

[memberofthebride]

What does any of these have to do with the resurrection? It is your mind that's locked shut, in denial of biblical record of sunday resurrection, not me.

they are all tied to gather, They are the ONE WAY of the LORD.
There is NO command to assemble on sunday --- there is on the 7th Day.
there is no command to do any thing the churches do today. zero

There exist no scripture in the Old or the New stating Christ will be or was resurrected on the first day of the week.

The only verse you have, when the women got to the tomb before sunrise -- Christ had already left the tomb --- at this point there is no conformation as to when Christ was raised to eternal life. Thus it is only your opinion -- I use the Words of Christ.

there is zero proof in scripture, there is zero records of a resurrection in the dark on the first day of the week.

going back to that ONE WAY,

It is very unlikely you have been shown what Zechariah the prophet foretold what is coming after Christ is on earth,

every person on earth will keep the Feast of Tabernacles or be punished.
Read the entire chapter there is no doubt this is after His return to earth

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment -- of all nations -- that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.